LeazesMag 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Ze dude that scored the bullet against us for bristol city.. oh him ! I thought he was canny tbh, at that level anyway. Unthinkable that he could make a step up. If it's not someone leaving one of europe's top 20 for £??M pounds then it's just not ambitious. you do realise it isn't so long ago that we one of europes top 20 don't you My point exactly, you don't excel against the teams around you by signing the players that they've deemed not good enough and poor enough to sell, that's how you end up outside of the top 20 of course, in your little world, its dead easy getting into it in the first place isn't it Provide quotes to back this up or lose all credibility, not that you have any to lose good owners get their clubs into the top 20 in the world, wouldn't you agree ? And the better owners don't fuck it all up spectacularly once there, wouldn't you agree? do you really, seriuosly think that every team in the history of football has reached high positions and stayed there forever See my comment in other thread re idiotic buffoon No I don't think that, the one's with the better owners did though Christ. and those who never get there at all are what exactly ? Dearie me. It depends on the manner in which they drop out of it, obviously. Fuck me, have you not got some windows to lick? Well, we dropped out of the top 20 in this country alone due to Mike Ashley and nobody else. So much for there being plenty of alternative good owners around. Bollocks you daft cunt. The MAJORITY of the players that got us relegated were brought in during Shepherd's reign and the better ones, 7 of them, were sold by Ashley. Daft cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Ze dude that scored the bullet against us for bristol city.. oh him ! I thought he was canny tbh, at that level anyway. Unthinkable that he could make a step up. If it's not someone leaving one of europe's top 20 for £??M pounds then it's just not ambitious. you do realise it isn't so long ago that we one of europes top 20 don't you My point exactly, you don't excel against the teams around you by signing the players that they've deemed not good enough and poor enough to sell, that's how you end up outside of the top 20 of course, in your little world, its dead easy getting into it in the first place isn't it Provide quotes to back this up or lose all credibility, not that you have any to lose good owners get their clubs into the top 20 in the world, wouldn't you agree ? And the better owners don't fuck it all up spectacularly once there, wouldn't you agree? do you really, seriuosly think that every team in the history of football has reached high positions and stayed there forever See my comment in other thread re idiotic buffoon No I don't think that, the one's with the better owners did though Christ. and those who never get there at all are what exactly ? Dearie me. It depends on the manner in which they drop out of it, obviously. Fuck me, have you not got some windows to lick? Well, we dropped out of the top 20 in this country alone due to Mike Ashley and nobody else. So much for there being plenty of alternative good owners around. Bollocks you daft cunt. The MAJORITY of the players that got us relegated were brought in during Shepherd's reign and the better ones, 7 of them, were sold by Ashley. Daft cunt So the Halls and Shepherd left us in a position where the sale of 7 players would relegate us? Top squad building! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) Ze dude that scored the bullet against us for bristol city.. oh him ! I thought he was canny tbh, at that level anyway. Unthinkable that he could make a step up. If it's not someone leaving one of europe's top 20 for £??M pounds then it's just not ambitious. you do realise it isn't so long ago that we one of europes top 20 don't you My point exactly, you don't excel against the teams around you by signing the players that they've deemed not good enough and poor enough to sell, that's how you end up outside of the top 20 of course, in your little world, its dead easy getting into it in the first place isn't it Provide quotes to back this up or lose all credibility, not that you have any to lose good owners get their clubs into the top 20 in the world, wouldn't you agree ? And the better owners don't fuck it all up spectacularly once there, wouldn't you agree? do you really, seriuosly think that every team in the history of football has reached high positions and stayed there forever See my comment in other thread re idiotic buffoon No I don't think that, the one's with the better owners did though Christ. and those who never get there at all are what exactly ? Dearie me. It depends on the manner in which they drop out of it, obviously. Fuck me, have you not got some windows to lick? Well, we dropped out of the top 20 in this country alone due to Mike Ashley and nobody else. So much for there being plenty of alternative good owners around. Bollocks you daft cunt. The MAJORITY of the players that got us relegated were brought in during Shepherd's reign and the better ones, 7 of them, were sold by Ashley. Daft cunt So the Halls and Shepherd left us in a position where the sale of 7 players would relegate us? Top squad building! I'll let somebody else respond to that absurd post. Edit. which is straight out of thompers book tbh Edited August 21, 2010 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 The villa chairman is quite well received, the mackems like their new owners I'm sure, the Mancs and Liverpool have their issues with their's but they still provide backing for their managers . Man City on the whole fucking love their new owners. A new owner worked wonders for Chelsea. Has it not occurred to you that we may have been the exception to the rule in getting a bad new owner, possibly due to the fact that your blessed previous owners took the money and ran rather than care about who is buying it? I didn't realise the Villa chairman had ran a club that seriously ran for the league title and played in the Champions League. Still, pretend he did if you like to suit your "opinion". I would say that the Halls didn't care too much who paid them the money, it would certainly appear to be the case. But Shepherd almost certainly didn't want to sell his shares and give up his seat in the boardroom. I didn't want to sell my shares either too btw, but had no choice. The point remains. Good owners put their club into the position we were in, the vast majority of owners get nowhere near that, but you still insist for some reason they weren't good owners. Wierd. See the bit in your post that I have put in bold ? Why don't you apply that criteria to the Halls and Shepherd, because that was certainly the case so far as they were concerned, or are you admiting that yours is nothing other than a personality driven agenda ? You should concede this and get back on track. This player may be a good player in the premiership but then again he may not. There is nothing wrong with making judgements on players from lower leagues but in essence you need to balance that up by buying players who also have proved their ability, or at least the big clubs should be doing this, and the clubs who act like big clubs should are doing it. You can't expect to put together a good side and achieve consistent european qualifications by buying bargans exclusively, because for the most part only about 1 on 4 or 5 buys achieve the necessary quality. This is the way it is, like it or not. The vast majority of owners don't have a huge fanbase to exploit, you can only use the resources you have. The vast majority of owners, once they're there, don't take footballing decisions into their own hands. They don't make positive steps like appointing Bobby Robson, then have the audacity to go over his head in the transfer market . If the vast majority of owners had a Former England and Barcelona manager on board, they would back him heavily, as opposed to backing the former Blackburn and Southampton manager more heavily in his first summer than they did in any of Bobby Robsons summers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Common sense could have kept us in the top 4, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Lets expand on this, why do you think Bobby Robson 'lost the dressing room'. What signal does it give out to players when you, as the top man, undermine and overrule the team's manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 The villa chairman is quite well received, the mackems like their new owners I'm sure, the Mancs and Liverpool have their issues with their's but they still provide backing for their managers . Man City on the whole fucking love their new owners. A new owner worked wonders for Chelsea. Has it not occurred to you that we may have been the exception to the rule in getting a bad new owner, possibly due to the fact that your blessed previous owners took the money and ran rather than care about who is buying it? I didn't realise the Villa chairman had ran a club that seriously ran for the league title and played in the Champions League. Still, pretend he did if you like to suit your "opinion". I would say that the Halls didn't care too much who paid them the money, it would certainly appear to be the case. But Shepherd almost certainly didn't want to sell his shares and give up his seat in the boardroom. I didn't want to sell my shares either too btw, but had no choice. The point remains. Good owners put their club into the position we were in, the vast majority of owners get nowhere near that, but you still insist for some reason they weren't good owners. Wierd. See the bit in your post that I have put in bold ? Why don't you apply that criteria to the Halls and Shepherd, because that was certainly the case so far as they were concerned, or are you admiting that yours is nothing other than a personality driven agenda ? You should concede this and get back on track. This player may be a good player in the premiership but then again he may not. There is nothing wrong with making judgements on players from lower leagues but in essence you need to balance that up by buying players who also have proved their ability, or at least the big clubs should be doing this, and the clubs who act like big clubs should are doing it. You can't expect to put together a good side and achieve consistent european qualifications by buying bargans exclusively, because for the most part only about 1 on 4 or 5 buys achieve the necessary quality. This is the way it is, like it or not. The vast majority of owners don't have a huge fanbase to exploit, you can only use the resources you have. The vast majority of owners, once they're there, don't take footballing decisions into their own hands. They don't make positive steps like appointing Bobby Robson, then have the audacity to go over his head in the transfer market . If the vast majority of owners had a Former England and Barcelona manager on board, they would back him heavily, as opposed to backing the former Blackburn and Southampton manager more heavily in his first summer than they did in any of Bobby Robsons summers so why doesn't Mike Ashley tap the fanbase ? You are aware how many of the "most loyal supporters in the land" supported the club pre-1992 I take it Why not also explain why the club didn't attract Bobby Robson when he was at Ipswich too As for the rest of that post, it's too ridiculous for words. If you seriously think they didnt' back Bobby Robson you have a serious problem, but that has been obvious for a while anyway. Anyway, this thread has been hijacked by you again so I'll leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Why doesn't Mike Ashley tap the fanbase Errrm, because the club is running at a loss after reckless spending sprees that were given the go ahead by previous owners? I suppose we could just go and buy europe's top players and forget about the real financial situation though, that would be very responsible wouldn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Of course if anyone wants to voice that they concur with my views, they're more than welcome I bet ASM is wanking himself into a frenzy at the fact that no one has responded in the last hour, to be honest with you, alot of threads on here are shite now as by page 2 its LSM and ASM or a. another banging on about the Halls/FFS/Ashley and its fucking dull like Called that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Of course if anyone wants to voice that they concur with my views, they're more than welcome I bet ASM is wanking himself into a frenzy at the fact that no one has responded in the last hour, to be honest with you, alot of threads on here are shite now as by page 2 its LSM and ASM or a. another banging on about the Halls/FFS/Ashley and its fucking dull like Called that one! who is LSM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Christ exactly. These people who encourage the club to spend money then complain that they then have spent too much, always make me smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Christ exactly. These people who encourage the club to spend money then complain that they then have spent too much, always make me smile Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 and who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Didn't a mod create a thread to dump Leazes and ASM jizz fests into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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