ewerk 31596 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Again though, you could say that about anything. Why should we pay for other peoples food, petrol, shoes. I do see that giving poor children access to the internet could have benefits in the long term ie increase their knowledge, get better grades and ultimately get out of the poverty bracket when they leave school. I'm all for a welfare system that provides the essentials for those who need them, I just don't class laptops and internet access as essential. What you say about increasing knowledge etc. is all well and good in theory but I just can't see it happening for the majority in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Again though, you could say that about anything. Why should we pay for other peoples food, petrol, shoes. I do see that giving poor children access to the internet could have benefits in the long term ie increase their knowledge, get better grades and ultimately get out of the poverty bracket when they leave school. I'm all for a welfare system that provides the essentials for those who need them, I just don't class laptops and internet access as essential. What you say about increasing knowledge etc. is all well and good in theory but I just can't see it happening for the majority in reality. By extension, would you close all libraries then? Free Galleries? Museums? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31596 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Again though, you could say that about anything. Why should we pay for other peoples food, petrol, shoes. I do see that giving poor children access to the internet could have benefits in the long term ie increase their knowledge, get better grades and ultimately get out of the poverty bracket when they leave school. I'm all for a welfare system that provides the essentials for those who need them, I just don't class laptops and internet access as essential. What you say about increasing knowledge etc. is all well and good in theory but I just can't see it happening for the majority in reality. By extension, would you close all libraries then? Free Galleries? Museums? etc. I'm failing to see the connection, libraries and museums are for mainly educational purposes, the internet is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Again though, you could say that about anything. Why should we pay for other peoples food, petrol, shoes. I do see that giving poor children access to the internet could have benefits in the long term ie increase their knowledge, get better grades and ultimately get out of the poverty bracket when they leave school. I'm all for a welfare system that provides the essentials for those who need them, I just don't class laptops and internet access as essential. What you say about increasing knowledge etc. is all well and good in theory but I just can't see it happening for the majority in reality. By extension, would you close all libraries then? Free Galleries? Museums? etc. I'm failing to see the connection, libraries and museums are for mainly educational purposes, the internet is not. Well I totally disagree there, but whether it is or not, that doesn't make libraries, galleries or museums essential so the point remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31596 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Well I totally disagree there, but whether it is or not, that doesn't make libraries, galleries or museums essential so the point remains. Of course they aren't absolutely essential but can you not see the difference between them and the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 199 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Well I totally disagree there, but whether it is or not, that doesn't make libraries, galleries or museums essential so the point remains. Of course they aren't absolutely essential but can you not see the difference between them and the internet? difference is happy, that the feckless cant flog the library after a year. libraries are PUBLIC property. giving the fuckas laptops makes it PRIVATE property. do you really think these gifts will be used in the correct way by the vast majority of those in reciept?? I doubt it! it'll be farmvilletastic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I might be missing something here but does 10,000 laptops 'worth' £500 actually equate to a cost of £5m to the government? I wouldn't have thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kockhead 0 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 The China man in chip shop going crazy punching walls. He says the UK should of payed China to reduce its debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I might be missing something here but does 10,000 laptops 'worth' £500 actually equate to a cost of £5m to the government? I wouldn't have thought so. An everyday telephone conversation in the purchasing department of any one of a dozen Whitehall departments. Gov: "Hi, yes we'd like to buy 10,000 of the things you sell" Seller: "Sure yeah that'd be great they're usually £500 each but for that kind of volume we'd do you a good discount, who did you say you were?" Gov: "We're the ministry of whatever, a government funded department" Seller: "Oh, well sure yeah, we'll do you them for £550 a piece" Gov: "Are you sure? that doesnt sound right, £600 sounds more realistic".... and so it goes on, getting a contract with the goverment is like getting a key to the Bank of England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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