LeazesMag 0 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? Edited August 11, 2010 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 They'll be out at the end of this term. I know whoever won the election would've had to back stringent cuts to balance the books, but people don't like seeing services cut, spending pulled back and the dole queue staring them in the face. There'll be a big backlash to Labour next time, nailed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11080 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. Really? Have you met people? They're stupid and reactionary. They'd rather buy SKY than food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. I would love to know the thinking behind that. It seems to be about as wrong as its possible to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4446 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'm sticking to the notion that they are "happy" that they have come into power in these circumstances as it gives them the opportunity to go mental with idealogically driven cuts. I think they'll go too far as LM suggests. I wouldn't be suprised if they also extend VAT to cover everything. Phil you really need to do a bit of reserach on how indirect taxes affect the lower paid disproportionately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. People (and you're a case in point) are selfish as fuck in the main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. Really? Have you met people? They're stupid and reactionary. They'd rather buy SKY than food. But the choice should really be their's to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. I would love to know the thinking behind that. It seems to be about as wrong as its possible to be Lower income tax will increase disposable income. People in debt can therefore choose to pay off their debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? I reckon they'll win at least the next election and maybe the one after that Labour has no new faces and no new ideology - it normally takes around 5-7 years before parties clear out the dross and the idea "we only need to keep saying what we said the last time and this time we'll win" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'm sticking to the notion that they are "happy" that they have come into power in these circumstances as it gives them the opportunity to go mental with idealogically driven cuts. I think they'll go too far as LM suggests. I wouldn't be suprised if they also extend VAT to cover everything. Phil you really need to do a bit of reserach on how indirect taxes affect the lower paid disproportionately. I agree with the top bit, Labours deficit has played into the Tories hands. With regards to the second part - all taxes affect the lower paid more. You'd like to think there would be a better implementation of VAT if income tax was removed, i.e. things like boats, cars over 50k etc.... would be 80% and all food 0%. You have to also take into account the thresh hold would have to be in stages, so lower incomes would benefit first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kockhead 0 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Whos give a fuck the countrys ruined Labour or Tory silly twats. I'm moving East the power changing from West to East. Learn your kids chinese they may working in China for pennies years to come. Edited August 12, 2010 by kockhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Whos give a fuck the countrys ruined Labour or Tory silly twats. I'm moving East the power changing from East to West. Learn your kids chinese they may working in China for pennies years to come. By ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'm sticking to the notion that they are "happy" that they have come into power in these circumstances as it gives them the opportunity to go mental with idealogically driven cuts. I think they'll go too far as LM suggests. I wouldn't be suprised if they also extend VAT to cover everything. Phil you really need to do a bit of reserach on how indirect taxes affect the lower paid disproportionately. VAT to indirectly replace income tax is how they will do it, in the main. You won't get them admitting this is their ultimate goal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kockhead 0 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) West to East the powers changing I mean sorry I've edited above. As I say this countrys fucked Labour or Tory. Move East learn your kids chinese this countrys fucked to much debt heading for double dip recession. To many lazy twats in country Edited August 12, 2010 by kockhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Lower income tax will increase disposable income. People in debt can therefore choose to pay off their debt. Tax on the goods and services they pay for will rise exponentially because of the amount of tax income lost from the wealthiest people, so the poor will be FAR worse off. Only the wealthy benefit from that proposal. Edited August 12, 2010 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. I would love to know the thinking behind that. It seems to be about as wrong as its possible to be Lower income tax will increase disposable income. People in debt can therefore choose to pay off their debt. You really don't understand this tax thing do you Please let me know what field you are earning your 70k in. I am thinking of a career change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. I would love to know the thinking behind that. It seems to be about as wrong as its possible to be Lower income tax will increase disposable income. People in debt can therefore choose to pay off their debt. You really don't understand this tax thing do you Please let me know what field you are earning your 70k in. I am thinking of a career change It's like saying Pakistani's are currently benefting from global warming with the easier access to water it provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31596 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) how many years do you think they will need to be in power to transform the UK into a society where you pay tax on everything you buy, or any public service you use, at the expense of the total abolishment of income tax ? Think about it. Who wins ? The people who will definitely benefit are; * People in debt * People with low/no disposable income It's seems much more logical to give people their earnings and let them choose how to spend it. Although I think you might be slightly confused on what the Tories stand for, they want a smaller public sector and larger private sector - so they want to collect less tax. I've always viewed the two parties as; Tories = lower taxes for less services Labour = higher taxes for better services. I would love to know the thinking behind that. It seems to be about as wrong as its possible to be Lower income tax will increase disposable income. People in debt can therefore choose to pay off their debt. You really don't understand this tax thing do you Please let me know what field you are earning your 70k in. I am thinking of a career change I'd like to see his P60. Edited August 12, 2010 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31596 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 West to East the powers changing I mean sorry I've edited above. As I say this countrys fucked Labour or Tory. Move East learn your kids chinese this countrys fucked to much debt heading for double dip recession. To many lazy twats in country Try to learn the English language first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'd like to think Phil's a wum but the act's a bit too convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Is it Phil K off NO? Mad as a balloon that lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Lower income tax will increase disposable income. People in debt can therefore choose to pay off their debt. Tax on the goods and services they pay for will rise exponentially because of the amount of tax income lost from the wealthiest people, so the poor will be FAR worse off. Only the wealthy benefit from that proposal. Lower income earners would be worse off if there was a flat rate rise in taxes. But as I've already said, if VAT was implemented properly it would be a much better system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Is it Phil K off NO? Mad as a balloon that lad. He used to post on ye olde board. Funny bloke. So 'no' Edited August 12, 2010 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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