Do You Believe In God?

[NJS 4378]

Very similar background and views to me. Got a family of staunch catholics, and the abortion thing and them taking the moral high ground you just think oh dear, and things like catholic priests and paedophilia and the amount of times there have been cover ups. Oh dear.

 

It must be worse when you are where a lot of people still define you as a person by what strain of christianity it you have been born in to.

 

At the time I decided to stop going it was more down to the existence of God in relation to the universe that influenced me rather than the church's dogma or moral hypocrisy - my views on that developed later as I got older.

 

The identity one is a strange one - a few times people have assumed things because of my supposed religion and it does bug me. However I think that's all in the past since my Mam passed away - I loved her to bits and she accepted my Atheism with grace but at the same time she made reference to me being a "Catholic Atheist" along the lines of the classic Irish joke.

 

I do still smile to myself when I decide "off the cuff" to have fish on a friday though.

[tinofbeans 91]

I can't stand any form of organised religeon. I also can't stand those that preach.

[NJS 4378]

I went ahead with it becasue I felt like I'd let me Mam down really.

 

Wimp that I was, I continued going to church for about 2 years after I'd decided I didn't believe because I didn't want to hurt my Mam - when I did tell her she told me I was an idiot and was more upset I'd done that than that I didn't believe.

[Guest alex]

My grans wild, cousin had a kid about 6months ago outside of marriage (he is engaged to the girl and been seeing her for couple of years), Grans first grandchild, she doesn't even wanna see the kid, as lovely as my Gran is, its a bit mental.

Not having a go like but that just seems like such a shame to me.

[Dr Gloom 21915]

religion? nah, i don't buy it. the idea of a god is too easy an answer to the universe's most complex and difficult questions

[BiscuitXXI 0]

I'm a rational, free-thinking atheist. I don't mind if people are religious. If it gets you through the day, then it gets you through the day. However, for better or worse, I can't help but treat people who claim to be religious like they have a mild learning difficulty. I'm never really sure what to say to a full-grown adult who believes in heaven or hell as a concept. I just ask them if they're okay a lot and make sure they have enough to eat/drink.

[Happy Face 29]

For anyone that believes in a creator, who created him?

[Anth 113]

All forms of Religions IMO were used to control people years ago, i.e. "Do as we say and you'll go to Heaven". They are total bollocks.

Any way on the subject of 'God', I would like to think there is something afterwards, and sometimes I sort of think that life must have had some sort of intelligent design

(I mean, the first cell ever created? Did all of the chemicals just bump into each other in a massive co-incidence?). Though deep down I reckon when you're dead thats it - Nowt.

[Guest alex]

For anyone that believes in a creator, who created him?

As a gnostic dualist I'd have to say the perfect being created the imperfect god which created our universe

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

All forms of Religions IMO were used to control people years ago, i.e. "Do as we say and you'll go to Heaven". They are total bollocks.

Any way on the subject of 'God', I would like to think there is something afterwards, and sometimes I sort of think that life must have had some sort of intelligent design

(I mean, the first cell ever created? Did all of the chemicals just bump into each other in a massive co-incidence?). Though deep down I reckon when you're dead thats it - Nowt.

 

Aye, its a bit of a mindfuck thinking of what was there before the universe? What is that big black space made from? It must have started as something. There must be an end somewhere?

 

 

[Barney 0]

For anyone that believes in a creator, who created him?

 

[Anth 113]

All forms of Religions IMO were used to control people years ago, i.e. "Do as we say and you'll go to Heaven". They are total bollocks.

Any way on the subject of 'God', I would like to think there is something afterwards, and sometimes I sort of think that life must have had some sort of intelligent design

(I mean, the first cell ever created? Did all of the chemicals just bump into each other in a massive co-incidence?). Though deep down I reckon when you're dead thats it - Nowt.

 

Aye, its a bit of a mindfuck thinking of what was there before the universe? What is that big black space made from? It must have started as something. There must be an end somewhere?

 

 

 

I'm sure I read somewhere that they reckon 'space' is made up of dark matter, and if you travel 14 billion light years you reach the 'edge of the universe' which is a wall of cosmic background radiation, I'd love to know whats behind ut. Would love to fully understand atronomy / physics and stuff! There are some great documentaries on this sort of stuff. I'll dig them out later and post them

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

I reckon there's more chance of me winning the lottery than the above being true. We can't get a man on Mars yet but they reckon they know whats 14billion light years away. Someone blatantly made that up!

[Happy Face 29]

For anyone that believes in a creator, who created him?

 

 

 

There's a bloke at work who wears a Flying Spaghetti Monster T-shirt.

 

Nerd.

[Barney 0]

very nerdy alright.

[Happy Face 29]

I reckon there's more chance of me winning the lottery than the above being true. We can't get a man on Mars yet but they reckon they know whats 14billion light years away. Someone blatantly made that up!

 

http://howgoodisthat.wordpress.com/2009/08...ght-years-away/

[Renton 21609]

All forms of Religions IMO were used to control people years ago, i.e. "Do as we say and you'll go to Heaven". They are total bollocks.

Any way on the subject of 'God', I would like to think there is something afterwards, and sometimes I sort of think that life must have had some sort of intelligent design

(I mean, the first cell ever created? Did all of the chemicals just bump into each other in a massive co-incidence?). Though deep down I reckon when you're dead thats it - Nowt.

 

I don't think that's correct - I haven't read up on it for a while but my understanding is small molecules naturally evolve into more complex self-replicating molecules and that 'life' is inevitable given the correct starting conditions. And of course, the anthropic principle states that conditions must have been right in the first place.

 

I don't expect being dead is any worse than not being born. Still frightens me though.

[NJS 4378]

There's a bloke at work who wears a Flying Spaghetti Monster T-shirt.

 

Nerd.

 

I'm against religious identity as a general concept but we should use next years (last) census to get all the daft ones in there just for a laugh.

[Anth 113]

I reckon there's more chance of me winning the lottery than the above being true. We can't get a man on Mars yet but they reckon they know whats 14billion light years away. Someone blatantly made that up!

 

Aye they dont need to go there though to 'see' it via telescopes etc. Like I say I'll hoy the link up to the documentary so you can have a gander

[Renton 21609]

For anyone that believes in a creator, who created him?

 

 

 

There's a bloke at work who wears a Flying Spaghetti Monster T-shirt.

 

Nerd.

 

It's a canny funny book that makes a very important point, especially against the background of the religious nuttery that is the US.

 

Nowt wrong with nerds, I thought you would have agreed with that.

[Renton 21609]

I reckon there's more chance of me winning the lottery than the above being true. We can't get a man on Mars yet but they reckon they know whats 14billion light years away. Someone blatantly made that up!

 

Aye they dont need to go there though to 'see' it via telescopes etc. Like I say I'll hoy the link up to the documentary so you can have a gander

 

It's more about recreating the early conditions of the Universe through the study of particle physics at places like CERN. Tbh I only wish I was intelligent enough to understand it better - I gave up at Super String theory.

[Happy Face 29]

For anyone that believes in a creator, who created him?

 

 

 

There's a bloke at work who wears a Flying Spaghetti Monster T-shirt.

 

Nerd.

 

It's a canny funny book that makes a very important point, especially against the background of the religious nuttery that is the US.

 

Nowt wrong with nerds, I thought you would have agreed with that.

 

It's not often I'm on the cooler side of anyone else on the nerd scale though. I have to enjoy it when I can.

 

He'd be Moss to my Roy.

[ChezGiven 0]

Not for me like. Was brought up a Catholic, went to RC schools etc. If anything it pushed me further from believing. I think the first part of the OP sums up why the very notion of an almighty one is ludicrous:

 

I've never bought the whole 'God' ticket. For a planet thats 4.5 billion years old, I struggle to subscribe to an ideology thats only been around 2000 years and has zero provability in the face of scientific fact.

 

 

Made me laugh for some reason.

[Jusoda Kid 1]

When did this cunt reappear?

[The Fish 10856]

I reckon there's more chance of me winning the lottery than the above being true. We can't get a man on Mars yet but they reckon they know whats 14billion light years away. Someone blatantly made that up!

to be fair, winning the lottery is a certainty compared to the things we don't fully understand about what's going on right here, let alone what's happening in the incredible vastness of space.

 

Doesn't mean there's any kind of deity though.

 

your Pantheism, is it just that Nature should be revered?