Wikileaks

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In a John Pilger Special, to be exclusively broadcast by RT on Saturday courtesy of Dartmouth Films, whistleblower Julian Assange categorically denied that the troves of US Democratic Party and Clinton work and staff emails released this year have come from the Russian government.

 

“The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source,” Assange told the veteran Australian broadcaster as part of a 25-minute John Pilger Special, courtesy of Dartmouth Films.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/365164-assange-interview-wikileaks-russia/

[Alex 35881]

Well they would say that

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Aye the Russian government might not be the source who sent the information to wiki leaks but that doesn't mean it wasn't them who hacked the emails.

 

RT is the best example of how stupid people are in 2016.

[Rayvin 5527]

RT is a waste of space to be honest. Most mainstream media outlets are but RT is a propaganda arm of the Russian state ffs.

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It's not an RT film though.

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The thing that does my nut in about RT is that people who claim western media lie to us think RT are somehow 'revealing' the truth. Not on here but have been dumbfounded by some people's views on it.

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The Clinton Foundation has confirmed it accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was US secretary of state without informing the State Department, even though she had promised to let the agency review new or significantly increased support from foreign governments.

 

 

 

Qatari officials pledged the money in 2011 to mark the 65th birthday of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton’s husband, and sought to meet the former US president in person the following year to present him the check, according to an email from a foundation official to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign chairman, John Podesta. The email, among thousands hacked from Podesta’s account, was published last month by WikiLeaks.

 

Clinton signed an ethics agreement governing her family’s globe-straddling foundation in order to become secretary of state in 2009. The agreement was designed to increase transparency to avoid appearances that US foreign policy could be swayed by wealthy donors.

 

If a new foreign government wished to donate or if an existing foreign-government donor, such as Qatar, wanted to “increase materially” its support of ongoing programs, Clinton promised that the State Department’s ethics official would be notified and given a chance to raise any concerns.

 

http://m.hindustantimes.com/us-presidential-election/wikileaks-impact-clinton-foundation-accepts-it-received-1mn-gift-from-qatar/story-mCmgXGpP0TDg0tVau6ewIJ.html

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I refuse to believe that a $1m gift from a country of Qatar's standing is anything other than the benevolent gift that it appears to be.

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Aye It's like the Austin Powers blackmail. One MILLION!!! dollars ha ha haa. Enough to change the face of geopolitics forever.

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Who among us hasn't hidden a $1m gift from an opressive regime with vested interests in our decisions.

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This foundation is nothing but a slush fund.

 

Clinton was a member of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission while she was secretary of state. The commission was working on a “request to approve the sale of U.S. uranium stock to Russian atomic energy agency Rosatom as part of a transitioned takeover of a company which through an earlier merger had acquired U.S. uranium interests,” Politico reported.

Surprise, surprise: Rosatom had ties to the Clinton Foundation. Rosatom acquired 17 percent of a South African company called Uranium One in 2009. In 2007, Uranium One merged with UrAsia, which was owned by Frank Giustra. Giustra gave $31 million to the Clinton Foundation in 2006 and pledged $100 million more in the following years. Giustra along with Bill Clinton, acquired uranium interests in Kazakhstan in 2005.

The chairman of Uranium One when it was acquired by Rosatom, Ian Telfer, also gave $2.35 million to the Clinton Foundation.

Then there was the UBS deal, in which Hillary Clinton intervened. The IRS was suing Swiss bank UBS AG in order to obtain the identities of Americans who used the bank to set up offshore accounts. Again, unsurprisingly, after Clinton stepped in, UBS increased donations to the Clinton Foundation—from $60,000 to $600,000 by 2014. It lent the foundation $32 million for an inner-city loan program and paid Bill Clinton $1.5 million for some speaking gigs with its Wealth Mangement Chief Executive, Bob McCann."

 

http://observer.com/2016/08/the-six-clinton-foundation-scandals-everyone-needs-to-know/

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Bill Clinton branded Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn the "maddest person in the room" in a speech he gave explaining the resurgence of left-wing politics in Europe and America.

 

Documents released by Wikileaks show the former President joked that when Mr Corbyn won his leadership contest, it appeared Labour had just "got a guy off the street" to run the party.

 

He compared Mr Corbyn’s rise to the success of Alexis Tsipras in Greece and Bernie Sanders in US primaries.

 

In one section of the speech, Mr Clinton said Labour had disposed of one potentially successful leader, David Miliband, because they were "mad at him for being part of Tony Blair’s government in the Iraq War".

 

He went on: "They moved to the left and put his brother in as leader because the British labor movement wanted it.

 

"When David Cameron thumped him in the election, they reached the interesting conclusion that they lost because they hadn’t moved far left enough, and so they went out and practically got a guy off the street to be the leader of the British Labor Party [sic]."

 

Mr Clinton added: "But what that is reflective of – the same thing happened in the Greek election – when people feel they’ve been shafted and they don’t expect anything to happen anyway, they just want the maddest person in the room to represent them."

 

Labour declined to comment on the speech

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bill-clinton-jeremy-corbyn-maddest-person-speech-wikileaks-hack-a7404641.html

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Assange statement

 

https://wikileaks.org/Assange-Statement-on-the-US-Election.html

 

Spot on.

[Renton 22346]

Bill Clinton is spot on in that wikileak and Assange is full of shit. People have no right to hack into private emails and become the sole arbiter of what is disseminated. I didn't use to have a strong opinion of Assange but he comes across as a right self promoting tit in that statement.

[Rayvin 5527]

It's just that he fights the man, really. Forces their shit into the spotlight.

 

As a character I'd broadly agree, but as a pain in the arse to governments everywhere, he should be praised.

Edited November 8, 2016 by Rayvin

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Doesn't strike me as cowardly to risk opposing power such that it leads to being arbitrarily detained by the UK and Sweden for more than five years (as the UN ruled along with the view that he should be released immediately and given compensation).

[toonotl 3285]

Assange does strike me as a bit of a fame whore. There was a doco years ago about him and Wikileaks that seemed to suggest the co-founders of Wikileaks were concerned in the early years that he was fame obsessed. He's like an intelligent Glen Greenwald.

[toonotl 3285]

There'll be some frantic googling going on right now.

[toonotl 3285]

Ever wondered: What does the Guardian think of Julian Assange? 

 

You're about to find out.

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He is/was a fugitive from justice, and they ruled after he refused to come out and face charges

 

if we did that would it be considered brave? would it fuck

 

he hasn't been "detained" he's basically hidden behind a sofa saying he's not coming out till people promise it's ok, it's not how things work.

 

1. There are no charges

2. He's not a fugitive. He stayed in Sweden for 5 weeks, asked the prosecutor if he was ok to leave and they said he was.

3. The UN's lawyers have performed a 16 month investigation (that the UK and Swedish authorities supported) and ruled that he HAS been arbitrarily detained.

 

Repeating the lies surrounding the case doesn't make them true.

[Rayvin 5527]

Assange does strike me as a bit of a fame whore. There was a doco years ago about him and Wikileaks that seemed to suggest the co-founders of Wikileaks were concerned in the early years that he was fame obsessed. He's like an intelligent Glen Greenwald.

That's bit strikes me as definitely true. He certainly loves the attention. It's a bit of a shame really, as he could have handled himself much better than he did. Snowden for instance, has managed to avoid getting embroiled in any illegal activities other than his whistleblowing.

 

I think I just see him as a necessary evil. And enjoy that he makes people in power uncomfortable.

[Rayvin 5527]

Ever wondered: What does the Guardian think of Julian Assange? 

 

You're about to find out.

 

They're really conflicted. They think he's a brave, whistleblowing abuser of women

[toonotl 3285]

That's bit strikes me as definitely true. He certainly loves the attention. It's a bit of a shame really, as he could have handled himself much better than he did. Snowden for instance, has managed to avoid getting embroiled in any illegal activities other than his whistleblowing.

 

I think I just see him as a necessary evil. And enjoy that he makes people in power uncomfortable.

 

Totally agree in every respect on Assange.  

 

Snowden, too. I like Snowden, although I do wonder about his motivations at times given who he sought out in the first instance.

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He is/was a fugitive from justice, and they ruled after he refused to come out and face charges

 

if we did that would it be considered brave? would it fuck

 

he hasn't been "detained" he's basically hidden behind a sofa saying he's not coming out till people promise it's ok, it's not how things work.

He's hiding so he doesn't get extradited to the U.S.

[Park Life 71]

1. There are no charges

2. He's not a fugitive. He stayed in Sweden for 5 weeks, asked the prosecutor if he was ok to leave and they said he was.

3. The UN's lawyers have performed a 16 month investigation (that the UK and Swedish authorities supported) and ruled that he HAS been arbitrarily detained.

 

Repeating the lies surrounding the case doesn't make them true.

Ant's jumped in cause he wants to be no.1 computer boy.