Park Life 71 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Bono's best appearance was on Partridge iyam. I've always thought he came across as arrogant and aloof. Reminds me of Geldof a bit. Both went over to the dark side when they started meeting the queen and shit. Pissed myself when Geldof got that Lifetime Achievement Brit award a few years back. One half decent song with the Boomtown Rats and Live Aid, fuck all else to show for 30 odd years in the music biz. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It doesn't come any more generic than Oasis and U2 btw. I mean this us a daft argument in general, cos people like who they like, but pick any bloke who basically doesn't have much of an interest in music and ask him what's on his ipod and you'll get Oasis and U2 every time. Standard response. I think the post in general is bollocks, but the bit in bold is true they were mass marketed but also absolutely class, they got to the top through their unique music and personality, not because they're scruffy yank mugs who appeal to divvy's. There's nothing even to debate in my post tbf. It's fact. It's the most debatable point you've ever made. People who have U2 and Oasis in their ipod's are the general thing a bloke without any interest in music would have in their IPOD? Nothing to do with the fact they're fucking mint then? A bloke without any interest in music wouldn't have an IPOD, and your older bloke like Rob W, who doesn't really care would have Neil Diamond in there and Status Quo. Gemmill is spot on. My brother owns 3 cd's altogether. Oasis The Lighthouse Family The Spin Doctors To be fair, the likes of U2 and Oasis (and KOL) are probably the best music that gets into ther charts, so it's all that blokes that don't read the music press have to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4358 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 There's something in what Gemmill says - people who only have a casual interest in music by which I mean rarely go to gigs and buy maybe a dozen albums a year would tend to have Oasis or U2 as their token "rock" box ticker - they do have a mass casual appeal as well a having fans who take them more seriously. I went to Elland Road to see U2 in 87 and there were loads of that kind of casual fan there and it was the same when I last went to see Oasis at Finsbury park (though the latter did have far too many laddidh wankers as well). On Kings of Leon I found there early stuff canny but a bit too weird for me - I prefer some of their more recent stuff but wouldn't cal myself a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It doesn't come any more generic than Oasis and U2 btw. I mean this us a daft argument in general, cos people like who they like, but pick any bloke who basically doesn't have much of an interest in music and ask him what's on his ipod and you'll get Oasis and U2 every time. Standard response. I think the post in general is bollocks, but the bit in bold is true they were mass marketed but also absolutely class, they got to the top through their unique music and personality, not because they're scruffy yank mugs who appeal to divvy's. There's nothing even to debate in my post tbf. It's fact. It's the most debatable point you've ever made. People who have U2 and Oasis in their ipod's are the general thing a bloke without any interest in music would have in their IPOD? Nothing to do with the fact they're fucking mint then? A bloke without any interest in music wouldn't have an IPOD, and your older bloke like Rob W, who doesn't really care would have Neil Diamond in there and Status Quo. Gemmill is spot on. My brother owns 3 cd's altogether. Oasis The Lighthouse Family The Spin Doctors To be fair, the likes of U2 and Oasis (and KOL) are probably the best music that gets into ther charts, so it's all that blokes that don't read the music press have to go on. Patronising pish, in keeping with most of your posts. U2's peak was when I was little more than a bairn, you were still playing in the sand pit, and they had genuine competition then. You read NME, do you want a medal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 There's something in what Gemmill says - people who only have a casual interest in music by which I mean rarely go to gigs and buy maybe a dozen albums a year would tend to have Oasis or U2 as their token "rock" box ticker - they do have a mass casual appeal as well a having fans who take them more seriously.I went to Elland Road to see U2 in 87 and there were loads of that kind of casual fan there and it was the same when I last went to see Oasis at Finsbury park (though the latter did have far too many laddidh wankers as well). On Kings of Leon I found there early stuff canny but a bit too weird for me - I prefer some of their more recent stuff but wouldn't cal myself a fan. So the likes of a toon fan like me and one like yee, is that what you're saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4358 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 There's something in what Gemmill says - people who only have a casual interest in music by which I mean rarely go to gigs and buy maybe a dozen albums a year would tend to have Oasis or U2 as their token "rock" box ticker - they do have a mass casual appeal as well a having fans who take them more seriously.I went to Elland Road to see U2 in 87 and there were loads of that kind of casual fan there and it was the same when I last went to see Oasis at Finsbury park (though the latter did have far too many laddidh wankers as well). On Kings of Leon I found there early stuff canny but a bit too weird for me - I prefer some of their more recent stuff but wouldn't cal myself a fan. So the likes of a toon fan like me and one like yee, is that what you're saying? Eh? No - I mean there were people there who saw those bands as going to that summers cool event rather than busting a gut to see them on their own merits. For the U2 one, Genesis had played there the week before and I assumed that there were quite a few people who'd gone there as well though I can imagine fewer people would like both bands. If you want it football terms I'd say what I'd call more casual fans would be ones who go to Blackburn or Wigan or a big cup game but wouldn't dream of going to Oxford on a Wednesday night. If you meant the wankers part then its a sad fact that Oasis did attract a lot of arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44179 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Stevie, your average bloke who, as HF put it better than me, doesn't read the music press, a conversation about music goes like this: What sort of music do you like? Bands. Like guitar bands. But like what though? Oasis, U2, that kind of thing. They're just the go-to bands for your generic British male. Theres nothing wrong with that, but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I love the way this has eventually got into football fan analogies like. Was only ever a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It doesn't come any more generic than Oasis and U2 btw. I mean this us a daft argument in general, cos people like who they like, but pick any bloke who basically doesn't have much of an interest in music and ask him what's on his ipod and you'll get Oasis and U2 every time. Standard response. I think the post in general is bollocks, but the bit in bold is true they were mass marketed but also absolutely class, they got to the top through their unique music and personality, not because they're scruffy yank mugs who appeal to divvy's. There's nothing even to debate in my post tbf. It's fact. It's the most debatable point you've ever made. People who have U2 and Oasis in their ipod's are the general thing a bloke without any interest in music would have in their IPOD? Nothing to do with the fact they're fucking mint then? A bloke without any interest in music wouldn't have an IPOD, and your older bloke like Rob W, who doesn't really care would have Neil Diamond in there and Status Quo. Gemmill is spot on. My brother owns 3 cd's altogether. Oasis The Lighthouse Family The Spin Doctors To be fair, the likes of U2 and Oasis (and KOL) are probably the best music that gets into ther charts, so it's all that blokes that don't read the music press have to go on. Patronising pish, in keeping with most of your posts. U2's peak was when I was little more than a bairn, you were still playing in the sand pit, and they had genuine competition then. You read NME, do you want a medal? Why's it patronising to say some people show a keener interest in music than others? I bought the NME once in 1996 for the Leeds Festival poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Stevie, your average bloke who, as HF put it better than me, doesn't read the music press, a conversation about music goes like this: What sort of music do you like? Bands. Like guitar bands. But like what though? Oasis, U2, that kind of thing. They're just the go-to bands for your generic British male. Theres nothing wrong with that, but it's true. I loved U2 from when I was a bairn loved their sound, there was a time when nearly everything they released was mint. Whether the generic male jumps on that, that's fine. The difference is U2 rose to the top because they were amazing and unique. People are missing my key point here as well, and this is that Kings of Leon are pathetically dire and shite as pointed out by many others, yet are loved by generic can't think for themselves people when there are 10000 better bands than them. Everyone thinks they're mint so they must be. To me liking KOL over Oasis and U2 is as twisted as preferring paedophila to sex with a porn star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4358 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm a huge fan of U2 Stevie but I still recognise that taste is personal not absolute - you can't impose it on the masses. Generic/casual fans like what's popular/trendy - as of 2011 that's Kings of Leon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44179 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It's not a question of one versus the other. I was picking up on your generic knobhead comment. Oasis and U2 are the band of choice for that demographic. Doesn't mean normal decent blokes don't like them too. Same with KOL. I've basically just solved the thread btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Stevie, your average bloke who, as HF put it better than me, doesn't read the music press, a conversation about music goes like this: What sort of music do you like? Bands. Like guitar bands. But like what though? Oasis, U2, that kind of thing. They're just the go-to bands for your generic British male. Theres nothing wrong with that, but it's true. I loved U2 from when I was a bairn loved their sound, there was a time when nearly everything they released was mint. Whether the generic male jumps on that, that's fine. The difference is U2 rose to the top because they were amazing and unique. People are missing my key point here as well, and this is that Kings of Leon are pathetically dire and shite as pointed out by many others, yet are loved by generic can't think for themselves people when there are 10000 better bands than them. Everyone thinks they're mint so they must be. To me liking KOL over Oasis and U2 is as twisted as preferring paedophila to sex with a porn star. But you haven't listened to the (early) music that got KOL to the top so how can you know that? Most people in this thread agrees it's canny and they went to shit later.....like U2. With or Without You just came on the mashup I'm listening to Edited January 7, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 If you haven't started investigating classical music and you're over 30 there is no hope for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm a huge fan of U2 Stevie but I still recognise that taste is personal not absolute - you can't impose it on the masses.Generic/casual fans like what's popular/trendy - as of 2011 that's Kings of Leon. They're no where near as big as the other two were and are, they have more of a muggy following. It's modern life though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41932 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Has to be said mind, Oasis are utter chinsplash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 If you haven't started investigating classical music and you're over 30 there is no hope for you. Last night I was rocking Philip Glass, Ludovicio Einaudi, Chris O'Reilly, Leonard Bernstein and Eluvium. Pucka Piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Stevie, your average bloke who, as HF put it better than me, doesn't read the music press, a conversation about music goes like this: What sort of music do you like? Bands. Like guitar bands. But like what though? Oasis, U2, that kind of thing. They're just the go-to bands for your generic British male. Theres nothing wrong with that, but it's true. I loved U2 from when I was a bairn loved their sound, there was a time when nearly everything they released was mint. Whether the generic male jumps on that, that's fine. The difference is U2 rose to the top because they were amazing and unique. People are missing my key point here as well, and this is that Kings of Leon are pathetically dire and shite as pointed out by many others, yet are loved by generic can't think for themselves people when there are 10000 better bands than them. Everyone thinks they're mint so they must be. To me liking KOL over Oasis and U2 is as twisted as preferring paedophila to sex with a porn star. But you haven't listened to the (early) music that got KOL to the top so how can you know that? Most people in this thread agrees it's canny and they went to shit later.....like U2. With or Without You just came on the mashup I'm listening to Do they fuck. You, Gemmill, some cunt else and MJS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44179 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Has to be said mind, Oasis are utter chinsplash. Best band in the world. Noel said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 If you haven't started investigating classical music and you're over 30 there is no hope for you. Well I like some, but I never what they're called. I'm a generic nobhead in this regard as Nessun Dorma is my fav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41932 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Has to be said mind, Oasis are utter chinsplash. Best band in the world. Noel said so. Oh aye, forgot about that. In that case … Oasis, Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Stevie, your average bloke who, as HF put it better than me, doesn't read the music press, a conversation about music goes like this: What sort of music do you like? Bands. Like guitar bands. But like what though? Oasis, U2, that kind of thing. They're just the go-to bands for your generic British male. Theres nothing wrong with that, but it's true. I loved U2 from when I was a bairn loved their sound, there was a time when nearly everything they released was mint. Whether the generic male jumps on that, that's fine. The difference is U2 rose to the top because they were amazing and unique. People are missing my key point here as well, and this is that Kings of Leon are pathetically dire and shite as pointed out by many others, yet are loved by generic can't think for themselves people when there are 10000 better bands than them. Everyone thinks they're mint so they must be. To me liking KOL over Oasis and U2 is as twisted as preferring paedophila to sex with a porn star. But you haven't listened to the (early) music that got KOL to the top so how can you know that? Most people in this thread agrees it's canny and they went to shit later.....like U2. With or Without You just came on the mashup I'm listening to Do they fuck. You, Gemmill, some cunt else and MJS. Everyone that's heard it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Has to be said mind, Oasis are utter chinsplash. Says the Otis Redding fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 British music pisses on yank music anyway, always has done, always will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) British music pisses on yank music anyway, always has done, always will do. I don't know like Stevie, by that I mean it's daft to use the nationality of the artists as much of a yardstick when both countries have produced some sensational music and some absolute dross. Both have been at the forefront of most 'modern' music as well, i.e. movements since the start of the last century, especially the USA. It's daft arguing about what is essentially just a matter of taste anyway. Edited January 7, 2011 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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