Ben Arfa

[sniffer 0]

Aye, championship. Thats the point.

 

He might very well get another chance next year.

[ewerk 31230]

Well he's hardly had a chance to win much more in his managerial career, has he?

[acrossthepond 878]

OK then. Who's a winner in English football that we could get to manage us? If not Hughton - and I didn't want him in the Championship, didn't want him managing in the Premier League, and still am not sold on him - then who? If I thought we could genuinely do better I'd be rid of him in a flash. But who can we attract that will do a better job?

[sniffer 0]

Fair, sensible, nice bloke but won't win anything. Ever.

We could have Mourinho here £700m transfer budget, and we'd still win fuck all. We're all resigned to it, pointless moping about it. We're still the toon, we still annoy people, we're still a bit different ("hows dat lar, dats why yer 'ated y'knowww") and I wouldn't change us for the world.

 

Fuck off to WACCOE you cunt. I'd rather have Hughton than Grayson put it that way.

 

Exactly the defeatist attitude I'd expect from you. What a tit you are.

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

Fair, sensible, nice bloke but won't win anything. Ever.

We could have Mourinho here £700m transfer budget, and we'd still win fuck all. We're all resigned to it, pointless moping about it. We're still the toon, we still annoy people, we're still a bit different ("hows dat lar, dats why yer 'ated y'knowww") and I wouldn't change us for the world.

 

Fuck off to WACCOE you cunt. I'd rather have Hughton than Grayson put it that way.

 

Exactly the defeatist attitude I'd expect from you. What a tit you are.

At least I'm a Newcastle loving tit, you haven't got a clue you mumbling bumbling old Yorkshire fake.

[sniffer 0]

There you go. Recognizing you are a tit is the first step but its in the right direction.

[Holden McGroin 6787]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...io-Capello.html

 

Just like Hatem Ben Arfa's leg, rules are not meant to be broken

 

At least nobody claimed Nigel de Jong was 'not that sort of player', after the tackle that may have ended Hatem Ben Arfa's season. Brian Kidd, the Manchester City assistant manager, came closest to it, saying De Jong was as 'honest as the day is long'. Maybe he weekends in Reykjavik this time of year.

 

As we know from the World Cup, De Jong is exactly that sort of player. That is why Bert van Marwijk, coach of Holland and clearly still feeling pangs of guilt in the aftermath of the dirtiest World Cup final in recent memory, has now dropped him. He said De Jong needlessly pushes the limit, although he could equally have been generalising about the game in England.

Nigel De Jong

 

Shocking: Nigel De Jong's challenge on Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa

 

We play a version of the rules over here. Roberto Mancini, De Jong's manager at Manchester City, said as much when we talked in his office two weeks ago. He said the referee never whistles in England.

 

Fabio Capello used the same phrase to describe the Premier League during his first year as national manager. Maybe after all those years in buttoned-down Serie A, the Italians find this liberating. Other countries have fouls, we deploy euphemisms.

 

De Jong is the type of player who likes to let an opponent know he is there. He gets stuck in and gives them something to think about.

Eduardo

 

A favoured tactic is the little reducer. That was what De Jong tried to give Ben Arfa after three minutes on Sunday, breaking his left leg in two places. The broken leg of Eduardo (right) for Arsenal against Birmingham City came early, too. The reducer strikes again.

 

Tony Pulis, manager of Stoke City, may think the biggest curse in the game is diving, but he is wrong. The reducer, and this unique version of the rules that maintains its presence in our game, is the real problem. Reading, for instance, have had three players sent off in as many matches but Matt Mills, the club captain, thinks referees are to blame.

 

He said: 'The Championship is physical and referees will have to accept that. If we don't do anything about this, it will slow our game down.'

 

No, the Championship is actually just a football league like any other. It is not operating off a separate code of practice, but the same rule book that governs every club from La Liga to the local park.

 

A foul is a foul, not a reducer, and there is no special dispensation. All De Jong reduced on Sunday was the career of a young Newcastle United player who looked to be a genuine addition to the worth of the Premier League. Maybe that is how we should approach it, purely as a business problem; because nobody seems particularly interested in applying the actual rules.

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

There you go. Recognizing you are a tit is the first step but its in the right direction.

So when are you going to move in the right direction? No better than a boring old Russian spy who's slipped under the radar, but I've got your number pal.

[sniffer 0]

By the way, where is WACCOE?

 

Has to be derogatory, I know.

[luckyluke 2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...io-Capello.html

 

Just like Hatem Ben Arfa's leg, rules are not meant to be broken

 

At least nobody claimed Nigel de Jong was 'not that sort of player', after the tackle that may have ended Hatem Ben Arfa's season. Brian Kidd, the Manchester City assistant manager, came closest to it, saying De Jong was as 'honest as the day is long'. Maybe he weekends in Reykjavik this time of year.

 

As we know from the World Cup, De Jong is exactly that sort of player. That is why Bert van Marwijk, coach of Holland and clearly still feeling pangs of guilt in the aftermath of the dirtiest World Cup final in recent memory, has now dropped him. He said De Jong needlessly pushes the limit, although he could equally have been generalising about the game in England.

Nigel De Jong

 

Shocking: Nigel De Jong's challenge on Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa

 

We play a version of the rules over here. Roberto Mancini, De Jong's manager at Manchester City, said as much when we talked in his office two weeks ago. He said the referee never whistles in England.

 

Fabio Capello used the same phrase to describe the Premier League during his first year as national manager. Maybe after all those years in buttoned-down Serie A, the Italians find this liberating. Other countries have fouls, we deploy euphemisms.

 

De Jong is the type of player who likes to let an opponent know he is there. He gets stuck in and gives them something to think about.

Eduardo

 

A favoured tactic is the little reducer. That was what De Jong tried to give Ben Arfa after three minutes on Sunday, breaking his left leg in two places. The broken leg of Eduardo (right) for Arsenal against Birmingham City came early, too. The reducer strikes again.

 

Tony Pulis, manager of Stoke City, may think the biggest curse in the game is diving, but he is wrong. The reducer, and this unique version of the rules that maintains its presence in our game, is the real problem. Reading, for instance, have had three players sent off in as many matches but Matt Mills, the club captain, thinks referees are to blame.

 

He said: 'The Championship is physical and referees will have to accept that. If we don't do anything about this, it will slow our game down.'

 

No, the Championship is actually just a football league like any other. It is not operating off a separate code of practice, but the same rule book that governs every club from La Liga to the local park.

 

A foul is a foul, not a reducer, and there is no special dispensation. All De Jong reduced on Sunday was the career of a young Newcastle United player who looked to be a genuine addition to the worth of the Premier League. Maybe that is how we should approach it, purely as a business problem; because nobody seems particularly interested in applying the actual rules.

 

 

 

By far and away the most sensible article ever to appear in the Daily Mail.

[peasepud 59]

By far and away the most sensible article ever to appear in the Daily Mail.

tbf thats not difficult

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Sniffer has a hard-on for Sir Alex, no doubt about it.

Maybe but I bet he nearly puts his eye oot when he thinks about Don Revie. You can just see his mantlepiece now three framed pictures, Revie, Fred Trueman and Arthur Scargill in the middle.

Right next to the Geoffrey Boycott century-of-centuries commemorative plate I'd imagine.

 

Did you see Keegan as a loser as well sniffer?

[sniffer 0]

I'm well aware that its a loaded question and that many on here won't stand to hear criticism of KK.

 

It depends upon your definition. My definition of a winner is somebody who actually holds up a trophy. KK did that as a player when he could control things directly. As a manager, even though he was the best manager in my time at Newcastle, he wasn't a winner other than the second division. And if you want to match him against SAF, as it was us against manure, then there is only one winner there. Sad to say.

 

One thing is for sure. KK couldn't sign a good goalkeeper if his life depended upon it.

 

SAF is a winner. Freddie Truman and Geoff Boycott were winners as was Don Revie because they have the trophies.

 

Arthur Scargill was a twat but no doubt a hero to others on here.

[Park Life 71]

I'm well aware that its a loaded question and that many on here won't stand to hear criticism of KK.

 

It depends upon your definition. My definition of a winner is somebody who actually holds up a trophy. KK did that as a player when he could control things directly. As a manager, even though he was the best manager in my time at Newcastle, he wasn't a winner other than the second division. And if you want to match him against SAF, as it was us against manure, then there is only one winner there. Sad to say.

 

One thing is for sure. KK couldn't sign a good goalkeeper if his life depended upon it.

 

SAF is a winner. Freddie Truman and Geoff Boycott were winners as was Don Revie because they have the trophies.

 

Arthur Scargill was a twat but no doubt a hero to others on here.

 

Love the way you can't resist parting digs.

[acrossthepond 878]

I still want an answer. Hughton's a nice guy, nice guys finish last, essentially another "loser." So who's a winner?

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

even though he was the best manager in my time at Newcastle, he wasn't a winner other than the second division. And if you want to match him against SAF, as it was us against manure, then there is only one winner there. Sad to say.

Am I reading to much into that or are you saying you used to be employed by the club?

 

Arthur Scargill was a twat but no doubt a hero to others on here.

Did you recognise Thatcher as a winner sniffer?

[AgentAxeman 189]

Arthur Scargill was a twat but no doubt a hero to others on here.

Did you recognise Thatcher as a winner sniffer?

 

wow, now THATS a loaded question!!

 

I guess you could say she won against scargill tho.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

............im outa here!!............

[sniffer 0]

even though he was the best manager in my time at Newcastle, he wasn't a winner other than the second division. And if you want to match him against SAF, as it was us against manure, then there is only one winner there. Sad to say.

Am I reading to much into that or are you saying you used to be employed by the club?

 

Arthur Scargill was a twat but no doubt a hero to others on here.

Did you recognise Thatcher as a winner sniffer?

 

No. I mean watching Newcastle.

 

This isn't the place to go off into a political discussion.

 

But clearly Scargill bit off more than he could chew.

[Brock Manson 0]

Aye, championship. Thats the point.

 

He might very well get another chance next year.

 

No, your point was that he won't win anything, ever.

 

I think you'll find he has won something, which makes your point somewhat redundant.

[Lazarus 0]

A favoured tactic is the little reducer.

 

isnt that one of ron atkinsons made up words?

[Guest alex]

A favoured tactic is the little reducer.

 

isnt that one of ron atkinsons made up words?

It's one of his, aye. Along with 'outstrengthed' etc.

[Park Life 71]

A favoured tactic is the little reducer.

 

isnt that one of ron atkinsons made up words?

It's one of his, aye. Along with 'outstrengthed' etc.

 

 

Setting aside the controversy, I thought he was quite an interesting character. To think he managed Man U.

[Guest alex]

A favoured tactic is the little reducer.

 

isnt that one of ron atkinsons made up words?

It's one of his, aye. Along with 'outstrengthed' etc.

 

 

Setting aside the controversy, I thought he was quite an interesting character. To think he managed Man U.

Won the FA Cup there too. I quite liked his quirky little sayings "lazy nigger" and the like.

[Park Life 71]

A favoured tactic is the little reducer.

 

isnt that one of ron atkinsons made up words?

It's one of his, aye. Along with 'outstrengthed' etc.

 

 

Setting aside the controversy, I thought he was quite an interesting character. To think he managed Man U.

Won the FA Cup there too. I quite liked his quirky little sayings "lazy nigger" and the like.

 

I did find that very out of character bearing his mind his close relationship and mutual respect of all those black players.

[shackbleep 0]

A favoured tactic is the little reducer.

 

isnt that one of ron atkinsons made up words?

It's one of his, aye. Along with 'outstrengthed' etc.

 

http://www.dangerhere.com/ronglish.htm