Ben Arfa

[Besty 4]

Personal terms? Don't we just pay what he's being paid by them on his current contract?

[tinofbeans 91]

he'd prob expect a rise... i don't know what he's on, but from what i gather, the french league does not pay too well.

[Andrew 4969]

he'd prob expect a rise... i don't know what he's on, but from what i gather, the french league does not pay too well.

 

not how they work, it will be discussing terms between the 2 clubs and ben arfa for how much of his contract we're paying and how much they are

 

probably bonuses for goals/assists/appearances to be hammered out with him

[Flair 0]

Personal terms? Don't we just pay what he's being paid by them on his current contract?

 

Maybe it's about the potential buying at the end of the season.

[khay 10]

Personal terms? Don't we just pay what he's being paid by them on his current contract?

 

Maybe it's about the potential buying at the end of the season.

 

 

All year to sort that out man.

[Dr Gloom 22536]

nufc.com don't sound too positive

 

Newcastle's pursuit of French international midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa (pictured) looks a little less likely to succeed, given the latest updates from his current employer, Olympique Marseille and from French sources.

 

Hopes had been high on Monday that a deal would be concluded, despite the two clubs still haggling over the level of fee payable for a season-long loan at SJP.

 

French newspaper L'Equipe wrote:

 

Hatem Ben Arfa is undoubtedly very close to discovering the joys of the Premier League. The former Lyon player has in effect been authorised by Marseilles to negotiate with the directors of the Magpies for a loan of one year with an option to buy according to the club cited by Agence France Presse.

 

The information was later denied by Jean-Claude Dassier (Chairman) and Didier Deschamps (coach). The two clubs have agreed a loan of one season for €1.2m, together with an option to buy at the end of the season. The amount of the option has not been revealed.

 

However, Monday evening then brought the following comments from Dassier on the official OM website:

 

"We have a meeting every Monday. It was a professional meeting at the heart of the transfer window. We had to sit down and make sure we all knew where we are and everything went well. We made a certain number of decisions but you have to be discreet during the transfer window. Our desire is to reinforce the squad.

 

"Newcastle United are interested (in Hatem Ben Arfa) but for the moment we have not reached an agreement, so we aren’t talking about it. We are working with the representatives of Newcastle and with Hatem Ben Arfa."

 

Perhaps significantly, Dassier then went on to confirm that recent press speculation of a move for Seville striker Luis Fabiano was accurate - but refused to comment on the progress of that transfer.

 

Other sources in France have claimed that in order for the Fabiano deal to go through, there would have to be outward movement from OM to balance the books.

 

And while that was expected to have been Ben Arfa, were a proposed deal taking striker Mamadou Niang to Turkish side Fenerbahce go through, removing Ben Arfa from the OM wage bill wouldn't be a necessity.

 

The player is claimed to be keen on moving to SJP have expressed a preference to play in England, rather than take up offers from German and Portuguese sides.

 

23 year-old Ben Arfa should win his eighth full international cap, having been named in the French squad for a friendly against Norway in Oslo on Wednesday.

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

nufc.com don't sound too positive

 

Newcastle's pursuit of French international midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa (pictured) looks a little less likely to succeed, given the latest updates from his current employer, Olympique Marseille and from French sources.

 

Hopes had been high on Monday that a deal would be concluded, despite the two clubs still haggling over the level of fee payable for a season-long loan at SJP.

 

French newspaper L'Equipe wrote:

 

Hatem Ben Arfa is undoubtedly very close to discovering the joys of the Premier League. The former Lyon player has in effect been authorised by Marseilles to negotiate with the directors of the Magpies for a loan of one year with an option to buy according to the club cited by Agence France Presse.

 

The information was later denied by Jean-Claude Dassier (Chairman) and Didier Deschamps (coach). The two clubs have agreed a loan of one season for €1.2m, together with an option to buy at the end of the season. The amount of the option has not been revealed.

 

However, Monday evening then brought the following comments from Dassier on the official OM website:

 

"We have a meeting every Monday. It was a professional meeting at the heart of the transfer window. We had to sit down and make sure we all knew where we are and everything went well. We made a certain number of decisions but you have to be discreet during the transfer window. Our desire is to reinforce the squad.

 

"Newcastle United are interested (in Hatem Ben Arfa) but for the moment we have not reached an agreement, so we aren’t talking about it. We are working with the representatives of Newcastle and with Hatem Ben Arfa."

Perhaps significantly, Dassier then went on to confirm that recent press speculation of a move for Seville striker Luis Fabiano was accurate - but refused to comment on the progress of that transfer.

 

Other sources in France have claimed that in order for the Fabiano deal to go through, there would have to be outward movement from OM to balance the books.

 

And while that was expected to have been Ben Arfa, were a proposed deal taking striker Mamadou Niang to Turkish side Fenerbahce go through, removing Ben Arfa from the OM wage bill wouldn't be a necessity.

 

The player is claimed to be keen on moving to SJP have expressed a preference to play in England, rather than take up offers from German and Portuguese sides.

 

23 year-old Ben Arfa should win his eighth full international cap, having been named in the French squad for a friendly against Norway in Oslo on Wednesday.

Why work with us if the ultimate aim isn't to give us the player?

[Guest alex]

I don't doubt our lot's ability to fuck it up but .com know nowt. They're just repeating what's in the press with their usual negative take on things.

Edited August 10, 2010 by alex

[Giraffidae 0]

I dread to think of who Ashley has got to negotiate for the club!

[Andrew 4969]

Why work with us if the ultimate aim isn't to give us the player?

well if they have terms that we refuse to meet then I assume that thing called "negotiating" will happen

 

if we don't satisfy them then they're not going to turn round and say "well go on then, you are NEWCASTLE afterall, how can we turn you down?" they'll tell us to ram it

[Ketsbaia 0]

Do yourself a favour and don't go on the Ben Arfa thread N-O. I think there's a few actually on the verge of doing themselves in.

[Guest alex]

Why work with us if the ultimate aim isn't to give us the player?

well if they have terms that we refuse to meet then I assume that thing called "negotiating" will happen

 

if we don't satisfy them then they're not going to turn round and say "well go on then, you are NEWCASTLE afterall, how can we turn you down?" they'll tell us to ram it

What's that? Is it like due dilli-thingy?

[shackbleep 0]

Why work with us if the ultimate aim isn't to give us the player?

well if they have terms that we refuse to meet then I assume that thing called "negotiating" will happen

 

if we don't satisfy them then they're not going to turn round and say "well go on then, you are NEWCASTLE afterall, how can we turn you down?" they'll tell us to ram it

What's that? Is it like due dilli-thingy?

 

[Deano 0]

Aye he would be a class signing but i wont lose no sleep if it doesnt come off.

 

After all do you think CH would drop anyone to accomodate him if he signed?

 

I can only think he would play behind Carroll in the 'Nolan' role and play Nolan and Guthrie in the middle.

[acrossthepond 900]

Aye he would be a class signing but i wont lose no sleep if it doesnt come off.

 

After all do you think CH would drop anyone to accomodate him if he signed?

 

I can only think he would play behind Carroll in the 'Nolan' role and play Nolan and Guthrie in the middle.

 

That would work for me.

 

I get the feeling he's a lot better than Jonas, but that doesn't mean Jonas will be dropped for him.

[Deano 0]

Jonas is right footed anyways so it's hardly a big deal for him to switch to his correct side.

 

And drop Routledge? Unlikely...If anythin Routledge offers more than Gutierrez...but thats my point, CH wont drop anyone imo.

[nortoon 0]

odds are they wont jostle too much with injuries and whatnot

[khay 10]

Shove Jonas at right back.... Seconds thought's might not be the best idea.

 

CH will drop.

[loonyTOON 10]

Shove Jonas at right back.... Seconds thought's might not be the best idea.

 

CH will drop.

 

If you noticed when we played Rangers, Jonas was coming across to the right a fair bit, so that both himself and Wayne we're working the ball together. Could CH play Ben Arfa (if he signs) on the left, Wayne on the right, and Jonas behind the striker? This way he could move to both the right and left and double up with either winger. Just a thought. Wayne has to be at RM though no doubt, the difference he brought when he came in January was massive.

[khay 10]

Shove Jonas at right back.... Seconds thought's might not be the best idea.

 

CH will drop.

 

If you noticed when we played Rangers, Jonas was coming across to the right a fair bit, so that both himself and Wayne we're working the ball together. Could CH play Ben Arfa (if he signs) on the left, Wayne on the right, and Jonas behind the striker? This way he could move to both the right and left and double up with either winger. Just a thought. Wayne has to be at RM though no doubt, the difference he brought when he came in January was massive.

 

No reason why they all just cant interchange position.

 

Nolan on second half to nick a goal and chase the defenders every now and then.

 

Either Loven or Big Andy up top depending on who we are playing.

[Kitman 2207]

The longer this drags on, the more it seems likely to fall through. It would be just like us to miss out on a quality player for the sake of a few grand.

[shackbleep 0]

The longer this drags on, the more it seems likely to fall through. It would be just like us to miss out on a quality player for the sake of a few grand.

 

With Mike Ashley involved? Surely not

[Kitman 2207]

The longer this drags on, the more it seems likely to fall through. It would be just like us to miss out on a quality player for the sake of a few grand.

 

With Mike Ashley involved? Surely not

 

And probably less money than he's pissed down the bog at the casino

[Guest alex]

Jonas is right footed anyways so it's hardly a big deal for him to switch to his correct side.

 

And drop Routledge? Unlikely...If anythin Routledge offers more than Gutierrez...but thats my point, CH wont drop anyone imo.

Ashley will cleverly avert this potential problem by not signing Ben Arfa in the end

[Asprilla 96]

Jonas is right footed anyways so it's hardly a big deal for him to switch to his correct side.

 

And drop Routledge? Unlikely...If anythin Routledge offers more than Gutierrez...but thats my point, CH wont drop anyone imo.

Ashley will cleverly avert this potential problem by not signing Ben Arfa in the end

 

 

The man's a genius!