Double shooting in Birtley

[Guest Gordon McKeag]

Alright guys, people stop having a go because I'm a scouser. (Page 22-23 anyone didn't see)

Now back to Moat, that bird on talksport ( Season ticket holder St James Park sits next to Gordon Mckeag ). She thinks moat is a legend I don't agree. So can you phone up Mike Ashley and have her banned please gerodies. If I not I'll phone up Barton and have her personally removed. Cheers for your help David Kophead

Gordon McKeag died 3 years ago. Does she sit next to his urn?

[tinofbeans 91]

Sad that like. Well, fucked up actually. Really feel for him and his family. This facebook group thing makes me sick. Wonder if any of them have he balls to go to this guy and his family and make their point. If they actually have one.

 

which of course the vermin that worship people like Moat do not. absolutely no way.

[Guest Gordon McKeag]

Love how they wear the "Capital of Culture" thing lilke a badge of honour. With no idea that it's awarded to the city who could best benefit from the amount of money raised by attaining the moniker. If it was truly a competition to acknowledge the European Capital of Culture the prize would flit between London, Paris, Rome, Vienna, Milan, Madrid etc.

 

but it's not like the scousers to leech onto faint praise as if it some how mitigates their lack of class.

 

cunts, one and all.

The thing is they truly believe Liverpool got it because it's a better city than Newcastle. I know a scouser who honestly to god believes Liverpool is a better city than the toon, like not taking the piss or anything that's what he believes in his heart.

[Craig 6700]

Love how they wear the "Capital of Culture" thing lilke a badge of honour. With no idea that it's awarded to the city who could best benefit from the amount of money raised by attaining the moniker. If it was truly a competition to acknowledge the European Capital of Culture the prize would flit between London, Paris, Rome, Vienna, Milan, Madrid etc.

 

but it's not like the scousers to leech onto faint praise as if it some how mitigates their lack of class.

 

cunts, one and all.

The thing is they truly believe Liverpool got it because it's a better city than Newcastle. I know a scouser who honestly to god believes Liverpool is a better city than the toon, like not taking the piss or anything that's what he believes in his heart.

 

They're very comparable IMO.

[Renton 22004]

Love how they wear the "Capital of Culture" thing lilke a badge of honour. With no idea that it's awarded to the city who could best benefit from the amount of money raised by attaining the moniker. If it was truly a competition to acknowledge the European Capital of Culture the prize would flit between London, Paris, Rome, Vienna, Milan, Madrid etc.

 

but it's not like the scousers to leech onto faint praise as if it some how mitigates their lack of class.

 

cunts, one and all.

The thing is they truly believe Liverpool got it because it's a better city than Newcastle. I know a scouser who honestly to god believes Liverpool is a better city than the toon, like not taking the piss or anything that's what he believes in his heart.

 

They're very comparable IMO.

 

They got City of Culture because they needed it more.

 

But it was a huge bonus for them and a blow for Newcastle at the time, no matter what is said in hindsight (neither city is international class Fish). I think Newcastle suffered because our redevelopment was well ahead of theirs.

 

Other than that I'd say the two cities are very comparable, from the Maritime connections, strong sense of identity, and the infamous charvers/scallies.

[Meenzer 15731]

I think Newcastle suffered because our redevelopment was well ahead of theirs.

 

I guarantee it did - there was a sense of "these people don't need our help". Plus there was the slight aroma of ludicrousness emanating from the "NewcastleGateshead" brand.

[Guest alex]

I think it was SLP who also reckoned Liverpool had more community projects lined-up whereas Newcastle/Gateshead had concentrated too much on the headline grabbers, if you like, like the Baltic.

[Happy Face 29]

Some of the public are so stupid and desperate to emote that they will mourn anything, says Rod Liddle. They even build shrines to crazed killers and chicken carcasses

 

What on earth is the government going to do about all these deranged northerners running amok shooting people? The more callous among you might well argue that it doesn’t really matter, as these madmen are only shooting other northerners, and so it is therefore none of our business. Perhaps. But there is no guarantee that the next deranged northerner will not get on a train, if he can afford it, and start shooting at us, instead. This is the thing; you simply cannot tell with nutters, there is no logic to their mayhem. There is a case to be made for employing the consensual, democratic approach adopted by the Cumbria and Northumberland police, which is to let each respective deranged northerner shoot several people — to get it out of his system — before the law is brought in to constrain him. Some people have criticised the police for this, but it seems to me as good an approach as any other.

 

One thing, though, is for sure — until a week ago, Cumbria’s Derrick Bird thought he was odds on to win the much coveted Mentally Ill Northerner of the Year Award, to be presented by Yorkshire’s Karen Matthews — who, if you remember, hid her young daughter, Shannon, in a drawer beneath a friend’s bed for a month or so and claimed she’d been abducted — at a glittering ceremony at Batley and Spen Working Men’s Club in December. And then suddenly Northumberland’s Raoul Moat has snuck in, snatching the commemorative pig-iron beer tankard from Derrick’s hand. Derrick must be gutted, as well as dead.

 

You think this is all in bad taste? Believe me, this is nothing. This is nothing. The Raoul Moat affair has uncovered a sort of seething pit of madness which well exceeds anything achievable by even the lowest form of satire. I do not mean Mr Moat himself — who, hereafter, will be referred to as ‘Moaty’, which is the name given to him by his thousand upon thousand of supporters in the north-east of England, including the former England football international and drunkard Paul Gascoigne, of which more later — but the others, the people online, the people in the streets, the people. And the queuing up to put flowers upon his ‘shrine’, which is situated next to a storm drain where he once lived. These lumpen-shrines are a comparatively new thing, a Diana thing, or post-Diana thing, I suppose; the garage flowers tied to the railings in what is known as a ‘Catford Bouquet’, after the south London suburb where people get stabbed to death. It is said that these sorts of bouquets and wreaths, together with attendant illiterate textspeak notes (RIP Monger luv u xxx lol) were left in a Liverpool backstreet on the site where a ‘body’ had been found, even though later it was discovered to be the carcass of a chicken. Maybe that story is apocryphal, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Shrines: once to Mary or Jesus, then just to people who had died suddenly and unfortunately, then to domestic fowl, now for murderers.

 

 

Moaty was undoubtedly mad as a box of frogs: paranoid, hobbled by an insurmountable tide of self-pity, thick as a block of mince, possessed of that strangely warped sense of maleness which sees everything as a direct challenge to his very existence, to his essence and as a consequence convinced that vengeance must surely be wreaked against everything. Banged up for minor assault ‘against a relative’, as the courts put it — or for ‘brayin’ his bairn’ as they might more accurately say in Newcastle — he came out of prison not full of remorse or contrition, but seeking redress. Like a sort of extreme version of Viz magazine’s pisshead loser, 8-Ace — lachrymose, self-obsessed and ineffably stupid. He shot his partner; he shot dead his partner’s boyfriend, he shot a policeman — and then, this being not enough, declared war against the world, convinced that he had been transgressed. Implacably convinced that he was the real victim. And the magical thing is that there were plenty of people to agree with him on this point. Like Gazza.

 

Something strange is happening with our low-brow celebrities, stuff is occurring which should not occur. You expect them to display their non-talent, milk it for a few years, talk rubbish and then disappear for ever. Yet in the last two weeks a woman who became very famous for having large breasts, Samantha Fox, was reported as having contracted rabies. And then it transpired that the attractive ‘singer’ Cheryl Cole, another emissary from Geordieland’s untermensch, apparently has malaria. There is something biblical about all this. What next, we wondered — Geri Halliwell to get leprosy? Simon Cowell to be beset by a plague of locusts? But no, it was Paul Gascoigne, slurring his words, pissed out of his head, telling a local radio station that he was driving to Rothbury to meet up with Moaty (©Paul Gascoigne) and had brought him some ‘chicken’ and a ‘dressing gown’ and a ‘fishing rod’, in case he wished to do a spot of, uh, fishing. The radio interviewer took the mickey out of him, quietly and lethally. Gazza thought Moaty had been misunderstood and, yep, transgressed. ‘Top fella,’ said British football’s greatest wastrel since Bestie.

 

 

And now the shrine and the Facebook campaign. More than 18,000 people have signed up to it, at the time of writing. There’s Stewart Pooley Poole, for example, saying: ‘All down 2 women. A man has 2 fight 2 hurt u a woman just has 2 press that button 2 fuk with your head.’ Even so, Stewart, there are plenty of women signed up, such as Julie Tripster: ‘He did wrong yeah but he was let down. He was a legend mainly for proving wat a poor society we live in yeah.’ Well, yeah, Julie you may have half a point there. Lol. And then there’s ‘you have won the hearts of reall people — totally understand your feelings’ and ‘police=scum’ and another really long one which ends ‘PS — take care of Sir Bobby’ — a reference to Sir Bobby Robson, the former manager of Newcastle United and England who died of cancer not so long ago.

 

From the sobbing queues along the Mall and Green Park some 13 years ago to the wreaths by that storm drain, there is a section of the public which will mourn anything, and become angered by it, desperate for a chance to emote and show its anger, fabulously — almost inconceivably — stupid, illiterate, ill-educated but incredibly sure of their rights. Next time, incidentally, some newspaper tells you that 18,000 people have written in online to complain about something, or demand something, remember the 18,000 who signed up in support of Raoul Moat.

 

 

When did Rod Liddle start writing for Viz?

[Guest alex]

Rod Liddle the self-styled 'controversialist'. Yawn tbh.

Edited July 16, 2010 by alex

[NJS 4411]

Same kind of stupidity but I guess the Jade Goody worship doesn't fit his Northern angle.

[Danny CL 0]

Same kind of stupidity but I guess the Jade Goody worship doesn't fit his Northern angle.

 

Daft racist vs cold blooded killer.

 

Good comparison

[Guest alex]

Same kind of stupidity but I guess the Jade Goody worship doesn't fit his Northern angle.

 

Daft racist vs cold blooded killer.

 

Good comparison

Aye, because that's the comparison he was making Thick as pig's shit.

Edited July 16, 2010 by alex

[Danny CL 0]

Same kind of stupidity but I guess the Jade Goody worship doesn't fit his Northern angle.

 

Daft racist vs cold blooded killer.

 

Good comparison

Aye, because that's the comparison he was making Thick as pig's shit.

 

Tbf I couldnt be bothered to read the article. I thought he was commenting on daft people mourning unpleasant characters they didn't even know.

[Guest alex]

Same kind of stupidity but I guess the Jade Goody worship doesn't fit his Northern angle.

 

Daft racist vs cold blooded killer.

 

Good comparison

Aye, because that's the comparison he was making Thick as pig's shit.

 

Tbf I couldnt be bothered to read the article. I thought he was commenting on daft people mourning unpleasant characters they didn't even know.

The penny's dropped. Well done, Douglas.

[Happy Face 29]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

[Guest alex]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

I think Chez had it right when he said 'broken Britain' was probably the biggest lie of the whole election campaign (or words to that effect). There's loads of other examples 'Harry Roberts is our friend...' etc., etc. It's just easier for people to see the support for something like this now you have Facebook and stuff like that.

[NJS 4411]

Yeah I wonder how the Mail is reacting to the crime figures being their lowest in 30 years - doesn't fit their agenda any more.

 

(Although give it 6 months and Cameron will get the credit for the "miracle")

[Danny CL 0]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

 

Loved their mother's innit

[Guest Gordon McKeag]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

Lined the streets??? There was more people turned out for them than Princess Di. I seem to remember there was 200,000 on the Mile End fly over alone. "Gawd rest is soww".

[Guest alex]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

Lined the streets??? There was more people turned out for them than Princess Di. I seem to remember there was 200,000 on the Mile End fly over alone. "Gawd rest is soww".

One of them was a wooly woofta as well. Shows what a cosmopolitan place the East End is tbh.

[Guest Gordon McKeag]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

Lined the streets??? There was more people turned out for them than Princess Di. I seem to remember there was 200,000 on the Mile End fly over alone. "Gawd rest is soww".

One of them was a wooly woofta as well. Shows what a cosmopolitan place the East End is tbh.

15% of London is homosexual though. 1,050,000 by my calculations.

[Guest alex]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

Lined the streets??? There was more people turned out for them than Princess Di. I seem to remember there was 200,000 on the Mile End fly over alone. "Gawd rest is soww".

One of them was a wooly woofta as well. Shows what a cosmopolitan place the East End is tbh.

15% of London is homosexual though. 1,050,000 by my calculations.

Sounds a bit low that like.

[Danny CL 0]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

Lined the streets??? There was more people turned out for them than Princess Di. I seem to remember there was 200,000 on the Mile End fly over alone. "Gawd rest is soww".

One of them was a wooly woofta as well. Shows what a cosmopolitan place the East End is tbh.

15% of London is homosexual though. 1,050,000 by my calculations.

 

[Guest Gordon McKeag]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

Lined the streets??? There was more people turned out for them than Princess Di. I seem to remember there was 200,000 on the Mile End fly over alone. "Gawd rest is soww".

One of them was a wooly woofta as well. Shows what a cosmopolitan place the East End is tbh.

15% of London is homosexual though. 1,050,000 by my calculations.

Sounds a bit low that like.

If you think about it London is a proper football area. Just supposing there are 1.2m gay people in London. That would leave only 5.8m who aren't gay. 2.9m of them will be women, so that leaves 2.9m potential football fans. 300,000 people watch regular football in London, so that's like 1 in 9 almost, probably a better ratio than us. No one can deny it's a proper football city.

Edited July 16, 2010 by Gordon McKeag

[Guest alex]

They were talking about it on Question Time last night. Saying how it's indicitive of broken Britain and all that bollocks.

 

As if cockneys had no time for Ronnie and Reggie 40 years back.

 

They lined the streets for their funerals too

Lined the streets??? There was more people turned out for them than Princess Di. I seem to remember there was 200,000 on the Mile End fly over alone. "Gawd rest is soww".

One of them was a wooly woofta as well. Shows what a cosmopolitan place the East End is tbh.

15% of London is homosexual though. 1,050,000 by my calculations.

Sounds a bit low that like.

If you think about it London is a proper football area. Just supposing there are 1.2m gay people in London. That would leave only 5.8m who aren't gay. 2.9m of them will be women, so that leaves 2.9m potential football fans. 300,000 people watch regular football in London, so that's like 1 in 9 almost, probably a better ratio than us. No one can deny it's a proper football city.

The gay people love football man.