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Another thing. The German attitude of 'we dont care about England, its not really a rivalry' is the epitome of arrogance for me too. We beat them possibly unfairly in 66 and that still gets discussed, we have been involved in great classic games together. Their stand alone record at major tournaments is irelevant to the rivalry. Its the results between us that matter.

 

If Germany dont consider England one of their main international rivals then who is for them? You cant ignore history, they started wars which decimated millions and millions of people, in my view denying the rivalry is, in part, denying their past.

 

In no way I said or wanted to suggest that there isn't any rivalry. Of course England is seen as a rival - how could it not looking at the history of the teams and those classic matches? Of course there is a fair share of idiots thinking of English people as "Inselaffen" but then I think the predominant feeling of the gereral public towards England rather is one of respect. And as much as our only tabloid (Bild Zeitung) is probably trying to stir things up a bit themselves, people are not getting as agitated about the match as English people do. It's a match at the knock-out stage of the World Cup, it's a match against a good team and an old rival. But in the end that's it. It's totally different to the climate a match against the Dutch would create, which would indeed bring out the awfully worst from the German majority. You can also argue that a match against Italy - another rival - would bring out more venom from the common "kleine Deutschländer".

Your only ally, and there's venom. I can understand the respect thing though to be honest, battered you in two world wars, battered you in a World Cup Final, greatest culture on earth, while you's are doing line dancing in tents drinking out of 4 pint glasses with leather shorts on. I think and I mean this Germans would like to be more like the English, I really believe that. Same is true of the dutch definitely, although they'd never admit it.

 

Aye, and good job we're not arrogant like them as well.

True.

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I have an honorary degree from Neuschwanstien for military studies with special referance to the Tiger 2 tank and its ability to supress a whole French village.

 

 

Liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The French were already surpressed way before the Tiger 2 was introduced :lol:

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A bit of love for the Germans, fucking love this record.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbAWBElA6dA

 

I'm up to 7 minutes now...when does the intro finish you cunt?

 

:lol: The world's first ever techno record imo, written in 1971.

You down with Ash Ra / Manuel Gottsching / Klaus Schulze? Class.

 

Had a couple of those Klaus Schulze on vinyl a few years back....Moody like an intercity train through snow held fields. :icon_lol:

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A bit of love for the Germans, fucking love this record.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbAWBElA6dA

 

I'm up to 7 minutes now...when does the intro finish you cunt?

 

:lol: The world's first ever techno record imo, written in 1971.

You down with Ash Ra / Manuel Gottsching / Klaus Schulze? Class.

 

Had a couple of those Klaus Schulze on vinyl a few years back....Moody like an intercity train through snow held fields. :icon_lol:

Got a good one of his that's actually a porn soundtrack. Funky as. Not cliched cha-wack-a-wow funky though.

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Whilst we're on all things culturally great about Germany, i used to love Herman Hesse when i was younger. Obviously that was in my psychedelic period.

Not read loads of his stuff but 'Steppenwolf' and 'Siddhartha' are quality. The former's hard work like.

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Whilst we're on all things culturally great about Germany, i used to love Herman Hesse when i was younger. Obviously that was in my psychedelic period.

Not read loads of his stuff but 'Steppenwolf' and 'Siddhartha' are quality. The former's hard work like.

Got an unread copy of The Glass Bead Game at home, read 'Demian' most recently which i remember being easier to read than most of his work. Steppenwolf is class too. Never read Siddharta.

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Whilst we're on all things culturally great about Germany, i used to love Herman Hesse when i was younger. Obviously that was in my psychedelic period.

Not read loads of his stuff but 'Steppenwolf' and 'Siddhartha' are quality. The former's hard work like.

Got an unread copy of The Glass Bead Game at home, read 'Demian' most recently which i remember being easier to read than most of his work. Steppenwolf is class too. Never read Siddharta.

It's an easy read, you should give it a go.

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...but having your country occupied by them must be quite another.

 

Occupied, fucking hell don't you decimated?!??

Why do you think there is very few building that are pre 1945?

 

Stevie, I think he was referring to the netherlands, the Jormans where utter cunts to them

Well he should learn to type in coherent English shouldn't he?

 

Sorry 8 pages later (and no longer in a rush) - I was referring to the Netherlands and the fact that, what wasn't decimated as the axis headed west, when they retreated they destroyed whatever they had missed the first time.

Stevie, have a read of A Brilliant Orange to understand the Dutch/German rivalry.

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There is a discernable tension across the whole of Germany this morning. :icon_lol:

It's massive for them, I don't care what they say.

 

Ah it definitely is,

still think England will win but obviously on sunday i'll have a couple of hotdogs (using frankfurters) a bottle of some german beer, and i'll maybe get Stevie printed on the back of an old bayrenMunich top to wear during :lol:

I'm doing a themed night for the final. I'm hoping the Dutch make it. That way I can drink Grolsch, smoke weed and watch porn.

 

Sounds like a normal Saturday night at your house Alex!

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There is a discernable tension across the whole of Germany this morning. :icon_lol:

It's massive for them, I don't care what they say.

 

Ah it definitely is,

still think England will win but obviously on sunday i'll have a couple of hotdogs (using frankfurters) a bottle of some german beer, and i'll maybe get Stevie printed on the back of an old bayrenMunich top to wear during :lol:

I'm doing a themed night for the final. I'm hoping the Dutch make it. That way I can drink Grolsch, smoke weed and watch porn.

 

Sounds like a normal Saturday night at your house Alex!

 

Comes across like that but lives in a house straight out of Ideal Home Magazine. Wrapped a bit tight iyam.

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