Acid 0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 and in the cases of Adams and McGuiness ? The same. so, in your eyes they are innocent of anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Ok....so we assasinate all suspected terrorists....who decides who gets the bullet and who carries the deed out? lets hear your policy Mr Leazes...the floor is yours there would be plenty of volunteers lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21392 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 and in the cases of Adams and McGuiness ? The same. so, in your eyes they are innocent of anything ? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 and in the cases of Adams and McGuiness ? The same. so, in your eyes they are innocent of anything ? No. and ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid 0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. I have a right to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. I have a right to be. How's that then, Vuvu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. I have a right to be. How's that then, Vuvu? Because it's my city. Innocent people from my city being murdered by nothing more than scum. Friends of my Da, Granda etc. murdered for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 It's a shame your dad didn't get hit in the nuts by a rubber bullet about 9 months before you were born like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. I have a right to be. How's that then, Vuvu? Because it's my city. Innocent people from my city being murdered by nothing more than scum. Friends of my Da, Granda etc. murdered for nothing. But you've just said in another thread you're from South Houston. Make your mind up you little cunt. Or was that another one of your hilarious jokes. Like Dr. K. Said, shame your old man didn't take a cap in the sack. Homie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well his sack would've been a bit undeveloped at the age of 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) It's a shame your dad didn't get hit in the nuts by a rubber bullet about 9 months before you were born like. Well his sack would've been a bit undeveloped at the age of 12 He was 12 nine months before you were born? Edited June 16, 2010 by Dr Kenneth Noisewater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 It's a shame your dad didn't get hit in the nuts by a rubber bullet about 9 months before you were born like. Well his sack would've been a bit undeveloped at the age of 12 He was 12 nine months before you were born? Aye people run about shooting rubber bullets at each other for the craic every day. Fuckin' numbskull. I thought you meant at the troubles. Dickwad. Cumstain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well his sack would've been a bit undeveloped at the age of 12 Fucking shame it developed further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well his sack would've been a bit undeveloped at the age of 12 Fucking shame it developed further. You wouldn't like me saying those things about your son that was born on Friday now would you? Exactly, shut the fuck up you old cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Well his sack would've been a bit undeveloped at the age of 12 Fucking shame it developed further. You wouldn't like me saying those things about your son that was born on Friday now would you? Exactly, shut the fuck up you old cunt. Fill your boots you little sphincter sniffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. I have a right to be. How's that then, Vuvu? Because it's my city. Innocent people from my city being murdered by nothing more than scum. Friends of my Da, Granda etc. murdered for nothing. Do you hold that remark to the British Army in general, or just those present on the day? Or perhaps those present and those who gave the orders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. I have a right to be. How's that then, Vuvu? Because it's my city. Innocent people from my city being murdered by nothing more than scum. Friends of my Da, Granda etc. murdered for nothing. Do you hold that remark to the British Army in general, or just those present on the day? Or perhaps those present and those who gave the orders? Those who gave the orders along with those who shot. Nothing against them in general. Any hate towards the Army in this thread would be relating to the men/people who gave orders that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Innocent until proven guilty. Sadly in this world it's guilty until proven innocent. McGuinness + Adams 4 lyf. So you're now idolising two former leaders of the IRA? Hypocritical and shuddering. That was a joke you cock. You're really sensitive about this. I have a right to be. How's that then, Vuvu? Because it's my city. Innocent people from my city being murdered by nothing more than scum. Friends of my Da, Granda etc. murdered for nothing. Do you hold that remark to the British Army in general, or just those present on the day? Or perhaps those present and those who gave the orders? Those who gave the orders along with those who shot. Nothing against them in general. Any hate towards the Army in this thread would be relating to the men/people who gave orders that day. Which is fair enough and most (should) have little against that. But then, while I have the deepest sympathy with those effected by the shootings. You cannot help but draw comparisons to the hundreds murdered in the conflict over the years on both sides. Hundreds off innocents, just like this day, who have become another number. There are numerous instances where thorough investigation should have been carried out. But is it worth it? Talk of prosecuting those involved is an interesting thought. Afterall, we prosecute German soldiers involved with death camps do we not? However, where does it end? Should we then not dig up all the files of Shankill, Birmingham, Enniskillen, Omagh and so on and so on. Should these also not be brought to justice? In fact, why not just rip up the Good Friday agreement, drag all those released back behind bars? Where do you think it should end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32824 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 In a peace keeping conflict, helping the local police, in 30 years, when young men are sent onto the streets with weapons and no idea if someone in a window in a street will shoot them, when people have threw Molotov cocktails at them, when they don't know if rioters will do any more than just throw bricks at them, then I think it's a surprise there hasn't been more innocent deaths caused by the Army to be honest. Good job they were almost always professional and didn't just kill any daft young kid who got in their faces. There'd have been a blood bath every few months. Tbf the Army were welcomed by catholics when they first came over but it soon transpired that their intentions certainly weren't to win hearts and minds, they're heavy handed tactics meant that they ended up losing the confidence of both sides of the community. I have a general question if anyone cares to have a go at answering it, what were the alternatives for Northern Irish catholics? They were discriminated against for jobs and housing, they were disenfranchised and under represented in the Northern Ireland parliament, their attempts and peaceful protest were being ignored, they were being thrown in jail without trial, Thatcher was letting an MP die on hunger strike, they simply didn't have a voice. I'm not defending terrorism but this wasn't just about getting a united Ireland, it was also about the institutional discrimination against a community that didn't have a voice. So violence aside, what could they have done? Easy for me to say with hindsight, but, by keeping the high moral ground, they would have eventually got their fair share as a community in Northern Ireland, if that was their aim. Unfortunately things don't change overnight but they inevitably do, clever media manipulation in a media age will get you pretty far. I don't think it's a coincidence that Apartheid, the fall of Soviet empire, and the Irish peace process all happened within a few years of each other. Peaceful Catholic protesters would have had their voices heard and would have had even more strong support from the USA in my opinion. For those who wanted a United Ireland, by resorting to violence they lost the high moral ground. Also, any fear of the IRA changing their stance and getting back to what they were in the seventies and eighties went to fuck when those planes flew into World Trade centre in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Castell 0 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Sorry, but it had to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21392 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Sorry, but it had to be done. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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