Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. Selling a property at the moment. As it's in joint names with the wife, is the right course of action to split the gain between us so that we each can use our annual £10,000 tax free allowance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30321 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Yes, as long as the profit is being split equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Yes, as long as the profit is being split equally. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30321 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Is this purely an investment property or have either of you ever lived in the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Is this purely an investment property or have either of you ever lived in the house? Purely investment and has been used as a buy to let since we bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Basically they find so many ways of parting you with your hard earned money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. Selling a property at the moment. As it's in joint names with the wife, is the right course of action to split the gain between us so that we each can use our annual £10,000 tax free allowance? Times are hard, the countries desperately in debt and yet again another Tory voter looks to fiddle the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. Selling a property at the moment. As it's in joint names with the wife, is the right course of action to split the gain between us so that we each can use our annual £10,000 tax free allowance? Times are hard, the countries desperately in debt and yet again another Tory voter looks to fiddle the system. Fuck right off, notice the words right course of action. You want to sell your belongings and give it all to Cameron, feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Keep Calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Lock up your rifles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11324 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Lock up your rifles! Naughty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. Selling a property at the moment. As it's in joint names with the wife, is the right course of action to split the gain between us so that we each can use our annual £10,000 tax free allowance? Times are hard, the countries desperately in debt and yet again another Tory voter looks to fiddle the system. Fuck right off, notice the words right course of action. You want to sell your belongings and give it all to Cameron, feel free. Right course of action in this case being "for yourselves" not the country, how many free school meals could have been purchased with the tax paid on that property? 5 4 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. Selling a property at the moment. As it's in joint names with the wife, is the right course of action to split the gain between us so that we each can use our annual £10,000 tax free allowance? iirc the tax follows the legal analysis. So you split it 50/50 between you and the wife. You're each then entitled to offset your annual CGT exemption. You should look into whether you can deduct your acquisition and disposal costs, improvements and indexation allowance from your respective gains. Mr moneybags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. Selling a property at the moment. As it's in joint names with the wife, is the right course of action to split the gain between us so that we each can use our annual £10,000 tax free allowance? iirc the tax follows the legal analysis. So you split it 50/50 between you and the wife. You're each then entitled to offset your annual CGT exemption. You should look into whether you can deduct your acquisition and disposal costs, improvements and indexation allowance from your respective gains. Mr moneybags. I'll check into that, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42117 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Don't forget to claim back the duck moat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 Don't forget to claim back the duck moat. The front or the back one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42117 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Don't forget to claim back the duck moat. The front or the back one? The one next to the gun rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30321 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Aye, you can deduct your acquisition and disposal costs and the cost of any capital improvements. You can't deduct the cost of repairs and maintenance and indexation allowances no longer apply to personal CGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 Aye, you can deduct your acquisition and disposal costs and the cost of any capital improvements. You can't deduct the cost of repairs and maintenance and indexation allowances no longer apply to personal CGT. Seems very lenient of the old HM Treasury. So with regard to disposal costs, does that include hips fee, estate agents fee, solicitors fee etc and at which point do you deduct this cost, ie off the total profit. example 100k Profit - minus disposal costs = 95,000 - Tax free allowance (10k approx) = 85,000 to pay tax on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30321 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I'm on the phone at the min but I'll show you a proforma later when I get on the computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 I'm on the phone at the min but I'll show you a proforma later when I get on the computer. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42117 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. *cough, ahem, cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4704 Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. *cough, ahem, cough* ;) I dont feel too bad because I once gave Ewerk some taxi advice when he visited Penshaw. (Not quite the same, I know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42117 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Just trying to work out some figures and not looking for a free accountant. *cough, ahem, cough* ;) I dont feel too bad because I once gave Ewerk some taxi advice when he visited Penshaw. (Not quite the same, I know) Dont take the "short-cut down this dark country lane I know" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30321 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Right, basically the proforma is this: Proceeds..............................X Less costs of disposal...........(X) Net proceeds........................X Less allowable costs.............(X) Gain....................................X Losses to set off...................(X) Gain....................................X Annual exemption...............(10,100) Chargeable gain...................X CGT @ 18%.........................X So, you take the proceeds and deduct the cost of disposal (solicitor's fees, estate agent fees and I'm assuming HIPS fees). That gives you your net proceeds. You then deduct allowable costs (the price you paid for the place, solicitor's fees incurred, surveyor costs etc, the value of any capital improvements). That gives you your gain. You then deduct any capital losses from the current year and past years (if you have any). That gives you you total gain. You then deduct your annual exemption (which is £10,100 assuming you've made no other capital gains during the year). And then you take 18% of that and that is what you owe HMRC. You and your wife should do one of these each, ensuring that you divide the proceeds, costs etc by two. So if the house sells for 200k then your proceeds are 100k, if you bought the house for 100k then your allowable costs are 50k etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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