TicTacWoe 0 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Tell you what if he doesn't play his arse off next season Man U could be in serious trouble. probably won't happen like but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 He's finished at the highest level. Do alright against Burnley and the like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Parky has hit rock bottom! It must be hell living in Germany at the mo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22008 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 He's finished at the highest level. Do alright against Burnley and the like... I actually think you might be right. He looks a right fat bastard at the moment. Ferguson cashes in, he ends up somewhere like spurs and he keeps expanding...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I think you're both 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22185 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 he's had two crap world cups but it's a bit premature to be writing his obituary, especially after the season he just had. i wouldn't bet against him being man u's top scorer again next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Been shit in the CL as well ain't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 He won't be finished and will no doubt be on top form again for manu, even in the Cl, but i have doubts that he'll ever take a world cup by storm and show he's really in that top bracket of players. Messi may not have scored yet but he's done more on his own than our entire squad managed because he is in the top bracket of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Been shit in the CL as well ain't he? No. Didn't he take down AC Milan? And thats just off the top of my head. Rooney is an excellent footballer. Make no mistake about that. He has never been 'right' since that Bayern game when he got injured then was rushed back by Fergie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 you can't knock his club record - when he palys with top class foreign players in a team built around him he looks great - no doubt if he was playing for Brazil or Jormany he'd be equally effective but he hasn't the sublime level of skill needed to lift himself and tthe rest of the team out of a hole - as I said - very lie kAndy Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 you can't knock his club record - when he palys with top class foreign players in a team built around him he looks great - no doubt if he was playing for Brazil or Jormany he'd be equally effective but he hasn't the sublime level of skill needed to lift himself and tthe rest of the team out of a hole - as I said - very lie kAndy Cole Its easy to say that after he has had a few bad games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 The Andy Cole comparison still baffles me like. Apart from anything Rooney has done much better at international level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 The Andy Cole comparison still baffles me like. Apart from anything Rooney has done much better at international level. "Rooney was busy enough against massed markers on Saturday, volleying his best opportunity disappointingly over the bar but providing the cute reverse pass that presented Joe Cole with his second goal before the hour mark. The pity was that the Manchester United striker could not register his own reward. Of his 14 international goals, only five have come since he really burst on to the scene so impressively at Euro 2004. More damning is the reality that there have been only two competitive goals in the four years since - a cold hard fact that blatantly illustrates the current frustrations for the 22-year-old. "Wayne needs a goal and it would be nice to see him score," conceded Frank Lampard. "I think it would do him good, obviously, but there's a lot more to his game than just scoring goals. He's a creator. He wants goals for his confidence and, just when you need one in an important situation, he'll get it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) He's scored about 25 international goals plus about 9 in qualifying so I don't know where that bollocks is from. Also, he's apparently 'finished' after winning the double player of the year awards. Aye, righto. He's struggled for form since getting injured against Bayern Munich in March or whatever. Prior to that he was absolutely outstanding and carrying a very average (by their standards) Man Utd. side so I don't buy into the argument he only does well in a team built around his strengths either. That's far more applicable to someone like Lampard. Edited June 29, 2010 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22185 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 one thing i would say is looking at the pictures of him with his top off after the germany match in the indy today, rooney doesn't look in the best shape. there were rumours of him carrying extra weight and they look to be true. he hasn't got the build of a permier league footballer at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 He is 24 now not 22 so that was from 2 years ago. Parky is on a mission to besmirch probably our only top-notch World class footballer for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 He is 24 now not 22 so that was from 2 years ago. Parky is on a mission to besmirch probably our only top-notch World class footballer for some reason. Probably blames him for messing us his predictions about us winning the WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) He is 24 now not 22 so that was from 2 years ago. Parky is on a mission to besmirch probably our only top-notch World class footballer for some reason. Probably blames him for messing us his predictions about us winning the WC Or he was giving it all the "Rooney is the best player in the world" talk in front of all his German family/friends. Sadly feels let down. Edited June 29, 2010 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22008 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 one thing i would say is looking at the pictures of him with his top off after the germany match in the indy today, rooney doesn't look in the best shape. there were rumours of him carrying extra weight and they look to be true. he hasn't got the build of a permier league footballer at the moment. He's an odd shape, built more like a heavy weight boxer than a creative midfielder come striker. I think it's going to be harder for him than most to retain his fitness and therefore form into his late 20s or 30s. He could do easily go off the rails, especially if ManU are forced to sell him or when Ferguson retires (next year imo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 He's scored about 25 international goals plus about 9 in qualifying so I don't know where that bollocks is from. Also, he's apparently 'finished' after winning the double player of the year awards. Aye, righto. He's struggled for form since getting injured against Bayern Munich in March or whatever. Prior to that he was absolutely outstanding and carrying a very average (by their standards) Man Utd. side so I don't buy into the argument he only does well in a team built around his strengths either. That's far more applicable to someone like Lampard. Why not just blame me for fat Rooney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 one thing i would say is looking at the pictures of him with his top off after the germany match in the indy today, rooney doesn't look in the best shape. there were rumours of him carrying extra weight and they look to be true. he hasn't got the build of a permier league footballer at the moment. He's an odd shape, built more like a heavy weight boxer than a creative midfielder come striker. I think it's going to be harder for him than most to retain his fitness and therefore form into his late 20s or 30s. He could do easily go off the rails, especially if ManU are forced to sell him or when Ferguson retires (next year imo). Personally I don't think he is physically or mentally right and Capello must know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 one thing i would say is looking at the pictures of him with his top off after the germany match in the indy today, rooney doesn't look in the best shape. there were rumours of him carrying extra weight and they look to be true. he hasn't got the build of a permier league footballer at the moment. He's an odd shape, built more like a heavy weight boxer than a creative midfielder come striker. I think it's going to be harder for him than most to retain his fitness and therefore form into his late 20s or 30s. He could do easily go off the rails, especially if ManU are forced to sell him or when Ferguson retires (next year imo). He's supposed to have a pretty low body fat percentage so I don't think he's fat but I do think he's bulked up a bit since he burst onto the scene and the extra muscle has possibly slowed him down a bit. I know it's natural to put on extra weight as you 'fill out' but I think because Rooney was strong as an ox at 18, he probably needed a weights etc. regime that kept him relatively trim rather than making him bigger and stronger. Perhaps that's another effect of playing in the PL and the English culture. I think he probably will have to watch his weight as he gets older but, unlike you, I think he could actually thrive with the right move (to a top club abroad that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 He's scored about 25 international goals plus about 9 in qualifying so I don't know where that bollocks is from. Also, he's apparently 'finished' after winning the double player of the year awards. Aye, righto. He's struggled for form since getting injured against Bayern Munich in March or whatever. Prior to that he was absolutely outstanding and carrying a very average (by their standards) Man Utd. side so I don't buy into the argument he only does well in a team built around his strengths either. That's far more applicable to someone like Lampard. Why not just blame me for fat Rooney? You in the huff because I pointed out you were quoting inaccurate 'facts' like? Or are the locals getting to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 one thing i would say is looking at the pictures of him with his top off after the germany match in the indy today, rooney doesn't look in the best shape. there were rumours of him carrying extra weight and they look to be true. he hasn't got the build of a permier league footballer at the moment. He's an odd shape, built more like a heavy weight boxer than a creative midfielder come striker. I think it's going to be harder for him than most to retain his fitness and therefore form into his late 20s or 30s. He could do easily go off the rails, especially if ManU are forced to sell him or when Ferguson retires (next year imo). He's supposed to have a pretty low body fat percentage so I don't think he's fat but I do think he's bulked up a bit since he burst onto the scene and the extra muscle has possibly slowed him down a bit. I know it's natural to put on extra weight as you 'fill out' but I think because Rooney was strong as an ox at 18, he probably needed a weights etc. regime that kept him relatively trim rather than making him bigger and stronger. Perhaps that's another effect of playing in the PL and the English culture. I think he probably will have to watch his weight as he gets older but, unlike you, I think he could actually thrive with the right move (to a top club abroad that is). Fergie was totally irresponsible playing a young player in those last few games knowing he was carrying an injury. Nothing fucks with young players minds more than going through those kinds of ordeals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 He's scored about 25 international goals plus about 9 in qualifying so I don't know where that bollocks is from. Also, he's apparently 'finished' after winning the double player of the year awards. Aye, righto. He's struggled for form since getting injured against Bayern Munich in March or whatever. Prior to that he was absolutely outstanding and carrying a very average (by their standards) Man Utd. side so I don't buy into the argument he only does well in a team built around his strengths either. That's far more applicable to someone like Lampard. Why not just blame me for fat Rooney? You in the huff because I pointed out you were quoting inaccurate 'facts' like? Or are the locals getting to you? Siege mentality. As 2Jeeps said and I agree we will probably never see the same Rooney as we had 2/3 years ago. Fergie has connived into making him a hard working deep striker which is no good for Eng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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