Meenzer 15531 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2015/08/12/labour-mps-to-launch-coup-against-jeremy-corbyn-on-day-one They're a special lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 And yet when we don't get what we want we need to respect democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17275 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Thing is, it's made out like all is lost for Labour but the Tories only managed a small majority against Ed Miliband. Depends how it plays out in the press though, as you suggest. It'll be all about the UK being taken back to the 70s and all that. But everyone from Blair, Campbell and the right wing press being against Corbyn makes me think he genuinely has something to offer. This lot are bricking it... http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/12/tony-blair-labour-faces-annihilation-if-jeremy-corbyn-wins-leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Just came in to post that. When the evil one stirs you know something is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So it this the UK's answer to Syriza and Podemos then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/aug/09/jeremy-corbyn-labour-overspending-did-not-cause-financial-crisis One for CT to get one paragraph into, glaze over and come back and type "Get real :lol:" to. I got two or three in. The bottom line is this. Labour rattling on about who was to blame for the crash is equivalent to Leazes Mag rattling on about Shepherd. Voters don't give a fuck now and will give even less of a fuck in 2020. That horse has well and truly bolted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 The bottom line is that you didn't understand a word of what you just read so you're resorting to tabloid interpretations of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Without doubt Corbyn, if elected will signal the end of the Labour Party as a major force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 and if he doesn't get in, how many will be looking for an alternative party that actually represents them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 The bottom line is that you didn't understand a word of what you just read so you're resorting to tabloid interpretations of the world. And yet I don't read tabloids. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 The bottom line is that you didn't understand a word of what you just read so you're resorting to tabloid interpretations of the world.I shall explain this to him through the interpretative medium of gif. The Dog is Tubs The box is his grasp of politics. The result is .... http://i.imgur.com/oAUYFHh.gifv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 And yet I don't read . Go figure.Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I shall explain this to him through the interpretative medium of gif. The Dog is Tubs The box is his grasp of politics. The result is .... http://i.imgur.com/oAUYFHh.gifv I have sympathy for the dog where I have only contempt for pigswill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 and if he doesn't get in, how many will be looking for an alternative party that actually represents them? Depends what your after. Plenty of people will promise you the world but never deliver. Libs did it for years. The only way any change comes is by being the government and the only way that's going to work is by getting the economics spot on. The Tories are doing the "nasty work" of reducing the state, sorting out pensions the country can afford and "sorting out" welfare. A switched on Labour Party should have its eye on 2020 knowing a lot of the high expenditure has been reigned in, allowing it to spend a bit more on popular left policies. Ie, manage the economy well and sneak a few things through each parliament whether that's nationalisation of the railways or whatever other policies are in the lefty top five. Simply going whole scale lefty is simply going to scare away the voters who elect governments. A switched on Labour leader should be able to get the balance spot on for 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Being Tory lite has failed twice against a pudding of a cunt - electing another fucking pudding is a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So it this the UK's answer to Syriza and Podemos then? Podemos yes, but Syriza not so much as they are more reformists rather than out and out 'looney left'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You only need to have a look at the Telegraph's daily articles about what a disaster Corbyn would be to know that something about him is worrying the right. I suspect it's the possibility of a Labour Party with an actual identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Depends what your after. Plenty of people will promise you the world but never deliver. Libs did it for years. The only way any change comes is by being the government and the only way that's going to work is by getting the economics spot on. The Tories are doing the "nasty work" of reducing the state, sorting out pensions the country can afford and "sorting out" welfare. A switched on Labour Party should have its eye on 2020 knowing a lot of the high expenditure has been reigned in, allowing it to spend a bit more on popular left policies. Ie, manage the economy well and sneak a few things through each parliament whether that's nationalisation of the railways or whatever other policies are in the lefty top five. Simply going whole scale lefty is simply going to scare away the voters who elect governments. A switched on Labour leader should be able to get the balance spot on for 2020. People over 50 in mid/southern England are effectively running the country. Dark ages doesn't cover it. England for a long time led the world in free healthcare, education and a strong social framework and it will again. Edited August 12, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Being Tory lite has failed twice against a pudding of a cunt - electing another fucking pudding is a waste of time. Picked the wrong Miliband. David would have won it. Harriet too. And they weren't Tory lite. They opposed all the cuts and had no vision. No inspiration. None of the current mob are worthy leaders. Best they can hope for is a caretaker who can hold the reigns til the SAS fella is ready or Chukkas balls drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Picked the wrong Miliband. David would have won it. Harriet too. And they weren't Tory lite. They opposed all the cuts and had no vision. No inspiration. None of the current mob are worthy leaders. Best they can hope for is a caretaker who can hold the reigns til the SAS fella is ready or Chukkas balls drop. Chukka is Tory lite. It might be painful in the short term but England need a real left alternative and a real left alternative is the only one that has a chance to get Scotland back. The Tory party is that weak on vision UKIP had it lurching to the right on immigration and europe. Edited August 12, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Nope they planned to cut the deficit by lesser austerity - as you've pointed out yourself many times. I agree on no vision - that's the point and the the other 3 cunts plus the black bloke have none either apart from more of the same tory lite bollocks. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Chukka is Tory lite. It might be painful in the short term but England need a real left alternative and a real left alternative is the only one that has a chance to get Scotland back. Scotland's gone Parky. Next time the referendum comes around (won't be long) it will be independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Scotland's gone Parky. Next time the referendum comes around (won't be long) it will be independent. It's needed for the nukes mate and the Queen likes it. Will never be allowed out even if Mi6 have to work weekends. Edited August 12, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 It's needed for the nukes mate and the Queen likes it. Will never be allowed out even if Mi6 have to work weekends. Styrchnine-laced Irn Bru in Nicola's drinks cabinet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Styrchnine-laced Irn Bru in Nicola's drinks cabinet? Edited August 12, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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