Howmanheyman 33231 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Fair play to the Tories and friends in the press, they've absolutely convinced the Labour Party and Tory voters that there cannot be a party who stands up for the poor and working classes. As that tweet posted earlier says, if they don't stand for the people then what the fuck do they stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 trouble is the remains of the working class and the poor often agree with the Tories and there aren't enough of them to win any election - you win from the middle same goes for the Tories - Hague, Duncan-Smith & Howard were all unelectable - same as Foot, Kinnock & Milliband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Good point Owen... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/left-new-labour-blair-brown-child-poverty?CMP=fb_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 trouble is the remains of the working class and the poor often agree with the Tories and there aren't enough of them to win any election - you win from the middle same goes for the Tories - Hague, Duncan-Smith & Howard were all unelectable - same as Foot, Kinnock & Milliband milliband was hardly much to the left of centre man - he backed the tory austerity bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 His failure to get elected was as much to do with his personality as his views. I.e. being a total fucking dweeb. And the press jumping all over his inability to eat a bacon sandwich and the patter about him being a puppet on the SNP if he got in. Policy was pretty thin on the ground from both of the main parties in the run-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 trouble is the remains of the working class and the poor often agree with the Tories and there aren't enough of them to win any election - you win from the middle same goes for the Tories - Hague, Duncan-Smith & Howard were all unelectable - same as Foot, Kinnock & Milliband This is the currently accepted word from on high but it is bollocks. You can win from anywhere with the right man and the right programme....But the society of the day has to be able to understand what is on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44888 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 https://youtu.be/2fp_GoKhRT0 Kay Burley man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 https://youtu.be/2fp_GoKhRT0 Kay Burley man. What a fucking disgrace she is. Might as well have Murdoch's hand shoved up her arse. She might smile occasionally if she did have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 https://youtu.be/2fp_GoKhRT0 Kay Burley man. the reverse paxman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 the reverse paxman Genuinely put out at having all her questions answered in full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ 0 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 https://youtu.be/2fp_GoKhRT0 Kay Burley man. She also suggested yesterday that if Jeremy Corbyn wins the right of the party will break off and start a new party in alliance with the Lib Dems and the Greens. She's off her head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 he said on the "telly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33231 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 https://youtu.be/2fp_GoKhRT0 Kay Burley man. the reverse paxman It's a mix of :lol: and The lols at her fucking dial when her questions were not going how she envisaged them, the at the fact that those questions were asked in the first place by one of the many Tory friendly media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Hats off to Dawn Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 That's just embarrassing... Hats off to Dawn Butler indeed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44888 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Kay Burley wants locking up. She's not well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Never realised there were so many John Birch society members writing in the UK. Honestly man you'd think anything left was going throw everyone into an East Berlin bread queue rather than simply have a country support it's people fairly. (Ugh I can't find the article now) but I'd rather have Corbyn actually represent people & lose than watch labour devolve into the torys MKII. Seriously what's the point if nobody is representing actual people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (Ugh I can't find the article now) but I'd rather have Corbyn actually represent people & lose than watch labour devolve into the torys MKII. What makes you think that Labour under any of the other candidates would be Tories MkII? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 They buy both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15M2j1-Z7U#t=118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Just cashed out my Corbyn bet, so that should seal his victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Just cashed out my Corbyn bet, so that should seal his victory. Who's his manager? I'll need to send him a couple of proper suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 if they elect Corbyn the Labour Party can count their blessings that Dave can't call a sudden election like he used to be able to do............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 The swing voters who voted for Blair and didn't vote for Milliband probably wouldn't vote for Corbyn (and then again might not vote for the others anyway) but people who are more left wing who voted green might be tempted. There's also more than enough people who didn't vote at all to make a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 It's electoral suicide. I'm assuming that's a given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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