Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 That's my thinking tbh Ant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33228 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 You've got to take the job. Pointless both of you losing out. Just make sure Bob knows you haven't stood on his toes whilst he was in situ and you didn't try to undercut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Grow a dick and fuck him before he fucks you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye lads, writing up the quote this weekend. Â No friends in business and that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm confused. Why? Confused by the multifaceted character that is Monkey's Fist: a man strong enough to run a successful business, but with the tender, delicate heart of a flower that weeps when he goes to a titty bar, lest he betray the trust of his concubine, when all the time she has been having a sub-contract with Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Â Â Get fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm confused. Why? Confused by the multifaceted character that is Monkey's Fist: a man strong enough to run a successful business, but with the tender, delicate heart of a flower that weeps when he goes to a titty bar, lest he betray the trust of his concubine, when all the time she has been having a sub-contract with Bob. Â Mega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Bob loses his last contract, 3 months from now his wife leaves him, then his cat dies over the summer, by next winter he's living on the streets reduced to the life of a bum. More to life than money but not for poor Bob as he eventually commits suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Not suicide imo. Has a lot more time on his hands with the loss of his contract, and is eventually suffocated by MF's concubine, her massive mammaries enveloping his head during a particularly vigorous spot of rumpy pumpy. He came and went at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Bob loses his last contract, 3 months from now his wife leaves him, then his cat dies over the summer, by next winter he's living on the streets reduced to the life of a bum. More to life than money but not for poor Bob as he eventually commits suicide. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think its harsh to stab the bloke who set you up in the back.Is there something in the background causing him to lose his grip on things work wise? Will you be adding to his problems by doing this? If you're on reasonably friendly terms with him and have other work in any case its poor form iyam. The only way its justifiable is you and your mate are struggling for work and you know he's done the same to others , or if you could see a situation where he'd do it to you and your mate.Which I imagine is probably the case as as it can all be put down to "no friends in business" and everyone will understand. If not, it doesnt sound like your needing to take on any extra labour to do the contract i.e. no actual "wealth creation"/trickle down of income so it would appear you'd just be doing it to line your own pockets at the expense of someone who has helped you in the past. The world of business is nothing like this, i do understand that. But is it wise to shit on anyone you feel like, especially those who've helped you in the past?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Bit of a dilemma- we ( my business) sub-contract a regular job from a guy( lets call him Bob). He has always told the client that we were his employees, which was annoying but we said nowt. Today, the client called us aside after work and said they knew we were subbys, not a problem, they weren't happy with Bob and would we be interested in the contract if they couldn't resolve their issues with him. We've been asked to submit a proposal for the contract, and reading between the lines, if we match or beat Bob's price, they have no intention of " resolving the issues"with him. . It's as good as ours. Here's the dilemma- when we set up, Bob provided us with a fair amount of work, and although he has brought the issues on himself, we'd still feel a bit shit about taking the work. ( a bit like banging your mate's lass the night after she dumps him ). Â The flipside to that is that over the last year , the amount of work Bob has brought us has reduced to , basically, this contract. Â So, looks like he's going to lose it , we have been asked to quote it, if we get it , Bob will spit the dummy. Â Â Thoughts lads ? Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ( I already know what we are gojng to do btw, just wondering if anyone has been in a similar scenario?) Â Shawshank Redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think its harsh to stab the bloke who set you up in the back.Is there something in the background causing him to lose his grip on things work wise? Will you be adding to his problems by doing this? If you're on reasonably friendly terms with him and have other work in any case its poor form iyam. The only way its justifiable is you and your mate are struggling for work and you know he's done the same to others , or if you could see a situation where he'd do it to you and your mate.Which I imagine is probably the case as as it can all be put down to "no friends in business" and everyone will understand. If not, it doesnt sound like your needing to take on any extra labour to do the contract i.e. no actual "wealth creation"/trickle down of income so it would appear you'd just be doing it to line your own pockets at the expense of someone who has helped you in the past. The world of business is nothing like this, i do understand that. But is it wise to shit on anyone you feel like, especially those who've helped you in the past?.... Â I agree with this. Bit harsh to stab the bloke if he's being a big help in getting your own business up and running. Â I would explain this to the contractor and also have a quiet word with Bob to see what the lay of the land is. Â There has to be room in business for loyalty and trust amongst business friends. Who knows that this time next year, you are struggling and Bob is back to his best with contracts dripping from him. Â Of course you know him and your business best of all. Â Good luck in an unpleasant situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think its harsh to stab the bloke who set you up in the back.Is there something in the background causing him to lose his grip on things work wise? Will you be adding to his problems by doing this? If you're on reasonably friendly terms with him and have other work in any case its poor form iyam. The only way its justifiable is you and your mate are struggling for work and you know he's done the same to others , or if you could see a situation where he'd do it to you and your mate.Which I imagine is probably the case as as it can all be put down to "no friends in business" and everyone will understand. If not, it doesnt sound like your needing to take on any extra labour to do the contract i.e. no actual "wealth creation"/trickle down of income so it would appear you'd just be doing it to line your own pockets at the expense of someone who has helped you in the past. The world of business is nothing like this, i do understand that. But is it wise to shit on anyone you feel like, especially those who've helped you in the past?.... Â Listen Bob, it's over, and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Be careful, MF. Word could soon get round that Bob brought you in then you decided to undercut him and stole the work from under him and you could find that no one else will even consider you for sub work in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^ That's true actually, word could get round. Unless you transfer 1 BILLION to my offshore account within the next 24 hours, PM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 One billion? MF, I'll knock 5% off that and won't tell any one for just £950,000,000.  I hope you can see the cost saving here and will give my proposal due consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) The facts are these. He's losing the contract, that has been made clear by the client. If he loses it, we lose it. We can't afford to 1) lose the work 2) not bid for it. If we don't take it, someone else will. Â We have arranged a meeting to tell him the full story, thereby giving him the opportunity to rectify his relationship with the client, and will make it clear that we will be happy to carry on with the status quo if he can. We will also make it clear that if he loses it, we will be bidding. Â Can't really be fairer than that. We haven't stabbed in the back, we were approached by the client, not the other way round. It would be the easiest thing in the world to keep schtum and move in once he's lost it, but that's not what we are going to do. Â Hence my original post re. a dilemma. Â We asked ourselves what we'd expect if the tables were turned, and will act accordingly. Â Â I will also read a eulogy when he tops himself ( Chez & KSA). Edited February 26, 2012 by Monkeys Fist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Good man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 337 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 *grumble* did something stupid while making tea, resulting in steam burning my hand  Could are "attack/disaster/zombies" first aid kit be found, of course not, could my grandas old world war german medical kit be found, of course. so i've had to use pad+bandage from it instead of something cheap from tescos, things probably worth a fortune on ebay.  It probably is! Trip to Boots in the morning for melonin or other burn dressings please, Mr M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Apply natural yoghurt onto the burnt area. It's very cheap, less than £1 per tub if you get ASDA price stuff. Last summer I fell asleep in the sun for 2 hours and my entire body was crisp as a duck, I rubbed natural yoghurt all over my body at regular intervals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Apply natural yoghurt onto the burnt area. It's very cheap, less than £1 per tub if you get ASDA price stuff. Last summer I fell asleep in the sun for 2 hours and my entire body was crisp as a duck, I rubbed natural yoghurt all over my body at regular intervals.  Careful you don't use that Onken wholegrain stuff by mistake though. You'll have bits up all your bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Best treatment for a burn is cold water then to wrap it in cling film immediately. Unless your skin is utterly fucked. Might still be worth trying. Edited February 27, 2012 by ChezGiven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idioteque 0 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Best treatment for a burn is cold water then to wrap it in cling film immediately. Unless your skin is utterly fucked. Might still be worth trying. Â this but my nan used to put baking soda on it before that Edited February 27, 2012 by Idioteque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Isn't cling film just to prevent infection in really bad burns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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