Ayatollah Hermione 14058 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 We're third favourites because we've got a good team tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 We will win 2-1 in the final against Spain. Quoted so when England get knocked out in the quarter finals i can laugh in your face. England are SHITE! which group are ireland in? Low blow, getting beat in the playoff against 10th in the world by someone cheating after finishing the group 2nd behind the current world champions wasn't a bad attempt, considering the standard of our team, its not like we've mcgrath and co anymore. Only reasons i always want England to lose is #1 1966 and how much i've heard about it, and #2 every tournament is met with "we're contenders!!!", then it starts with Motty talking utter ballocks during every one of your fucking matches. Ladbrokes have you at 3rd favourites for some reason ...Colin Murray is a commentator/pundit this year and all, fuck sake i hate that cunt Here here. If you're agreeing with a point being made, the phrase you're looking for is "Hear, hear" (originally from "hear him, hear him" used during debates), not "Here here" I'm pulling you up because you've done that a few times recently and it starting to get on my tits. Okay. I thought he was calling his horse in tbh. That wasn't funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 We're third favourites because we've got a good team tbh. Exactly, apart from the goalkeeper situation (which isn't that bad anyway) you've got a strong team in all departments providing there arnt any major injury blows. Being third favorites is about right imo and if you don't make the semis I'd rate the tournament as a dissapointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 We're third favourites because we've got a good team tbh. Exactly, apart from the goalkeeper situation (which isn't that bad anyway) you've got a strong team in all departments providing there arnt any major injury blows. Being third favorites is about right imo and if you don't make the semis I'd rate the tournament as a dissapointment. I was quietly confident around the time of qualifying, with things looking good and a class manager in charge, but since then alot has declined. Keeper is nowhere near sorted Terry is far from at his best, Ferdinand is a crock and Ashley Cole is coming back from a big injury and RB was never completely sorted Gerrard is miles off (possibly for yet to be revealled reasons!), Beckham is out (who i thought would be a very useful sub against tiring defences) and Lennon is coming back from injury as well, as is Joe Cole and Barry is out completely Rooney may not be back to the electric form he was in before the injuries and Defoe is out of form But that's typical England to be fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 (edited) We're third favourites because we've got a good team tbh. Exactly, apart from the goalkeeper situation (which isn't that bad anyway) you've got a strong team in all departments providing there arnt any major injury blows. Being third favorites is about right imo and if you don't make the semis I'd rate the tournament as a dissapointment. I was quietly confident around the time of qualifying, with things looking good and a class manager in charge, but since then alot has declined. Keeper is nowhere near sorted Terry is far from at his best, Ferdinand is a crock and Ashley Cole is coming back from a big injury and RB was never completely sorted Gerrard is miles off (possibly for yet to be revealled reasons!), Beckham is out (who i thought would be a very useful sub against tiring defences) and Lennon is coming back from injury as well, as is Joe Cole and Barry is out completely Rooney may not be back to the electric form he was in before the injuries and Defoe is out of form But that's typical England to be fair! True, but Spain are having their share of problems too with Xavi, Torres and Fabregas all struggling to be fit for the start. Obviously, keeping Rooney fit is vital. Edited May 9, 2010 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 We're third favourites because we've got a good team tbh. Exactly, apart from the goalkeeper situation (which isn't that bad anyway) you've got a strong team in all departments providing there arnt any major injury blows. Being third favorites is about right imo and if you don't make the semis I'd rate the tournament as a dissapointment. I was quietly confident around the time of qualifying, with things looking good and a class manager in charge, but since then alot has declined. Keeper is nowhere near sorted Terry is far from at his best, Ferdinand is a crock and Ashley Cole is coming back from a big injury and RB was never completely sorted Gerrard is miles off (possibly for yet to be revealled reasons!), Beckham is out (who i thought would be a very useful sub against tiring defences) and Lennon is coming back from injury as well, as is Joe Cole and Barry is out completely Rooney may not be back to the electric form he was in before the injuries and Defoe is out of form But that's typical England to be fair! True, but Spain are having their share of problems too with Xavi, Torres and Fabregas all struggling to be fit for the start. Obviously, keeping Rooney fit is vital. I'm quietly confident we'll find our way to the quarters to be honest, even with the problems, after that who knows! I think its a safe bet that we'll have a tight game, brave effort and out on pens at soem point though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 We're third favourites because we've got a good team tbh. Exactly, apart from the goalkeeper situation (which isn't that bad anyway) you've got a strong team in all departments providing there arnt any major injury blows. Being third favorites is about right imo and if you don't make the semis I'd rate the tournament as a dissapointment. I was quietly confident around the time of qualifying, with things looking good and a class manager in charge, but since then alot has declined. Keeper is nowhere near sorted Terry is far from at his best, Ferdinand is a crock and Ashley Cole is coming back from a big injury and RB was never completely sorted Gerrard is miles off (possibly for yet to be revealled reasons!), Beckham is out (who i thought would be a very useful sub against tiring defences) and Lennon is coming back from injury as well, as is Joe Cole and Barry is out completely Rooney may not be back to the electric form he was in before the injuries and Defoe is out of form But that's typical England to be fair! True, but Spain are having their share of problems too with Xavi, Torres and Fabregas all struggling to be fit for the start. Obviously, keeping Rooney fit is vital. Was about to say the same thing regarding the spanish, they've got Senna out too haven't they? All the major countries will have injuries, players out of form and tired players who've played maybe 50+ games this season. We're no worst of than most of them, but this is where your strength-in-depth, rather than your best XI matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 the thing that's struck me about the recent world cups is that luck seems to play a gigantic role, there's no way France and Italy were the best two teams in the last tournament, nor were Germany and arguably the Brazil side from the one before. So much depends on refereeing decisions and which team you happen to draw in each round rather than who plays the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 the thing that's struck me about the recent world cups is that luck seems to play a gigantic role, there's no way France and Italy were the best two teams in the last tournament, nor were Germany and arguably the Brazil side from the one before. So much depends on refereeing decisions and which team you happen to draw in each round rather than who plays the best. To win any cup or league you need a good slice of luck and avoiding crap from refs, its never just down to how well you played. And i agree, i don't think any of the last few world cup winners have been particularly impressive, they've been functional, done what was needed at the right time or other teams have been shitter to be honest. The last few have been up for grabs for anyone really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 We will win 2-1 in the final against Spain. Quoted so when England get knocked out in the quarter finals i can laugh in your face. England are SHITE! Not being English or Irish And a Newcastle fan? Glory Hunter Shirley . Ah but unlike you I'm from "a" Newcastle, tbs tbs. Now on your horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 the thing that's struck me about the recent world cups is that luck seems to play a gigantic role, there's no way France and Italy were the best two teams in the last tournament, nor were Germany and arguably the Brazil side from the one before. So much depends on refereeing decisions and which team you happen to draw in each round rather than who plays the best. To win any cup or league you need a good slice of luck and avoiding crap from refs, its never just down to how well you played. And i agree, i don't think any of the last few world cup winners have been particularly impressive, they've been functional, done what was needed at the right time or other teams have been shitter to be honest. The last few have been up for grabs for anyone really. And a tactically aware manager which England finally has with Capello. Unlike Eriksson or McLaren he won't be sending out the media's team. He'll play it like a tournament and not as if it's the PL. Personally I don't think people understand how much of an advantage a winter world cup is to England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 the thing that's struck me about the recent world cups is that luck seems to play a gigantic role, there's no way France and Italy were the best two teams in the last tournament, nor were Germany and arguably the Brazil side from the one before. So much depends on refereeing decisions and which team you happen to draw in each round rather than who plays the best. To win any cup or league you need a good slice of luck and avoiding crap from refs, its never just down to how well you played. And i agree, i don't think any of the last few world cup winners have been particularly impressive, they've been functional, done what was needed at the right time or other teams have been shitter to be honest. The last few have been up for grabs for anyone really. And a tactically aware manager which England finally has with Capello. Unlike Eriksson or McLaren he won't be sending out the media's team. He'll play it like a tournament and not as if it's the PL. Personally I don't think people understand how much of an advantage a winter world cup is to England. Capello will be the best tactician and organiser at the world cup imo. Makes a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22175 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 despite all the inevitable red top hype, we will not win the world cup.............FACT in fact, we will do well to get past the quarter finals. don't belive the hype. england are not one of the best teams in the world. we certainly won't be third favourites with bookmakers outside of the uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Dont know how anyone can rate our chances on current form / injuries. Rooney - injured too much Gerrard - shite form Terry - shite form Ferdinand - shite form A Cole - injured too much Barry - injured Not sure the list stops there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4863 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Dont know how anyone can rate our chances on current form / injuries. Rooney - injured too much Gerrard - shite form Terry - shite form Ferdinand - shite form A Cole - injured too much Barry - injured Not sure the list stops there either. cole looked fine against wigan yesterday, so did terry rooney should be fit, hes got some time now, ferdinand too gerrards still gerrard and can still do the business, he'll not be playing in a team where he knows without torres hes the only good player capable of getting them up there, its weighed on him heavily this season imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Dont know how anyone can rate our chances on current form / injuries. Rooney - injured too much Gerrard - shite form Terry - shite form Ferdinand - shite form A Cole - injured too much Barry - injured Not sure the list stops there either. cole looked fine against wigan yesterday, so did terry rooney should be fit, hes got some time now, ferdinand too gerrards still gerrard and can still do the business, he'll not be playing in a team where he knows without torres hes the only good player capable of getting them up there, its weighed on him heavily this season imo And also, like I said before every team has injury worries, Spain are struggling to get Xavi, Fabregas and Torres fit in time and Brazil have had the likes of Kaka and Luis Fabiano in and out of injury all season. Germany had their first choice keeper commit suicide and their second choice ruled out with injury, France have doubts for Gallas/Abidal while the likes of Ribery and Henry have had injury plagued seasons and poor form etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 No Shola in the Nigeria squad. He must be hoping for a late injury to Rooney now se he can make the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4863 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Squad announced on SSN just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11555 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Squad: Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green. Defenders: Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock. Midfielders: Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips. Forwards: Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4863 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Looks not bad, who do you think will drop out? Warnock, Wright-Phillips and then Parker/Carrick if Barry is fit. and probs Bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Looks not bad, who do you think will drop out? Warnock, Wright-Phillips and then Parker/Carrick if Barry is fit. and probs Bent. Criminal if he is dropped. Heskey has to be before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Looks not bad, who do you think will drop out? Warnock, Wright-Phillips and then Parker/Carrick if Barry is fit. and probs Bent. Criminal if he is dropped. Heskey has to be before him. I never said it would be my choice like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Heskey is the better partner for Rooney though. At least as the manager sees it. Shame he couldn't finish his dinner like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Looks not bad, who do you think will drop out? Warnock, Wright-Phillips and then Parker/Carrick if Barry is fit. and probs Bent. Criminal if he is dropped. Heskey has to be before him. Heskey's been useless this season, shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, Bent has to be ahead of him, Zamora should be in their on form rather than history. Surprised to see no Ashley Young but he himself hasn't been as good this year I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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