Kevin 1 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 A CRUDE car bomb has been found and defused in New York's Times Square. Cops are investigating whether the makers of the South Park cartoon were being targeted in the attempted explosion. The bomb was left near the offices of entertainment company Viacom, after an episode of their controversial cartoon featured Muhammad in a bear suit. An extreme website called Revolution Muslim warned the show's makers there would be reprisals. Thousands of tourists had to be cleared from the popular spot after a T-shirt vendor alerted cops. They say propane tanks, fireworks, petrol, and a clock device were removed from a parked sports utility vehicle. The Taliban in Pakistan said tonight it planted the crude device to avenge the killing last month of al Qaeda's two top leaders in Iraq as well as US interference in Muslim countries. This could not be immediately verified, but security analysts urged caution over the claim. Part of the district - where many theatres are sited - was sealed off. US President Barack Obama and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg both praised the quick response from cops. Mr Bloomberg said: "We are very lucky. Thanks to alert New Yorkers and professional police officers, we avoided what could have been a very deadly event." He said the bomb "looked amateurish" but could have exploded, adding that the incident was a "reminder of the dangers that we face." New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said he thought the intention was "to cause a significant ball of fire." He added: "We avoided what we could have been a very deadly event." The bomb appeared to be starting to detonate but malfunctioned. The first firefighters arriving at the scene heard a popping sound. No-one has been arrested but Commissioner Kelly said a surveillance video showed the car driving west on 45th Street before it parked between Seventh and Eighth Avenues. Smoke was coming from the back of the dark-coloured Pathfinder and its hazard lights were on. The T-shirt vendor alerted police at about 6.30 p.m local time on Saturday. Times Square is just four miles away from the site of World Trade Centre bombed on September 11, 2001. Katy Neubauer, 46, and Becca Saunders, 39, of Milwaukee, were shopping for souvenirs two blocks south of the SUV when they saw panicked crowds. Katy said: "It was a mass of people running away from the scene." It was clear today who was responsible for the bomb, but Islamic militants have used propane and compressed gas for years to enhance the force of explosives. Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/...l#ixzz0mp1Mj0hF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17654 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Where does this leave the makers of South Park now?.....will they move on to other obvious targets to offend (they seem to have a list) or will they get a visit from the FBI telling them to chill the fuck out with the piss taking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 878 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I don't see what this failed bomb and South Park have to do with each other. At least one group of terrorists have already claimed it's vengeance for some killings - it even says in the quoted article - and there's no connection other than that the bomb was vaguely close to Viacom's offices...and also to the offices of hundreds of other corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. They get rid of themselves though, we should just ignore them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. They get rid of themselves though, we should just ignore them until you are a victim maybe. Alright Jack are we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. They get rid of themselves though, we should just ignore them until you are a victim maybe. Alright Jack are we ? we all are Leazes.... we all are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 It wasn't even Mohammed depicted in the bear costume anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Where does this leave the makers of South Park now? They should try to go back to making decent episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17654 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Where does this leave the makers of South Park now? They should try to go back to making decent episodes. hmmm...its not that I dislike the program,and to my knowlegde its not been screened here recently anyway, but they just seem to have a list of people they want to upset and they go out of their way to do it....isn't it all a little bit contrived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooner 243 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Where does this leave the makers of South Park now? They should try to go back to making decent episodes. hmmm...its not that I dislike the program,and to my knowlegde its not been screened here recently anyway, but they just seem to have a list of people they want to upset and they go out of their way to do it....isn't it all a little bit contrived? as opposed to other TV programming ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. They get rid of themselves though, we should just ignore them Using bombs strapped to themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. They get rid of themselves though, we should just ignore them Using bombs strapped to themselves? Thats what he meant, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. So you'd have a trial by jury first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I'm all for shooting terrorists but even that is too good for them. I'd give everyone in this country a rock to lob off their heed. What's important as well though is we never get a situation like what happened with Jen Charles de Menzes again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22001 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I'd give everyone in this country a rock to lob off their heed. Deliberate irony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22001 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Where does this leave the makers of South Park now? They should try to go back to making decent episodes. hmmm...its not that I dislike the program,and to my knowlegde its not been screened here recently anyway, but they just seem to have a list of people they want to upset and they go out of their way to do it....isn't it all a little bit contrived? I thought South Park had a valid point in this case. They highlighted the absurdity of fundamental islamism and the hypocrisy the West has towards them because of the fear of violent retribution (perhaps proven by this case). They've shown this form of islamism cannot exist in harmony with the free and liberal west. Having said that, pretty sure this was covered previously in the double bill 'Cartoon Wars'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Flashback: Private Jihad: How Rita Katz got into the business of inventing Muslim terrorists and hystericizing America Print MIB Benjamin Wallace-Wells The New Yorker Mon, 29 May 2006 21:52 EDT © SITE "Rita Katz, Executive Director of the SITE Intelligence Group. Rita's paranoid hobbies include hyping Islamofascism, making people hysterical, manipulating data and pretending to be Muslim so she can frame innocent Muslims for crimes that never took place. Rita Katz is tiny and dark, with volatile brown eyes, and when she is nervous or excited she can't sit still. She speaks in torrents, ten minutes at a stretch. Everybody who works in intelligence calls her Rita, even people who don't know her well. She sometimes telephones people she hasn't met - important people in the government - to tell them things that she thinks they ought to know. She keeps copies of letters from officials whose investigations into terrorism she has assisted. "You and your staff . . . were invaluable additions to the investigative team," the special agent in charge of the F.B.I.'s Salt Lake City Division wrote; the Assistant U.S. Attorney in Boise said, "You are a rare and extraordinary gem that has appeared too infrequently throughout the course of history." The letters come in handy, she told me, when she meets with skepticism or lack of interest; they are her establishment bona fides. Katz, who was born in Iraq and speaks fluent Arabic, spends hours each day monitoring the password-protected online chat rooms in which Islamic terrorists discuss politics and trade tips: how to disperse botulinum toxin or transfer funds, which suicide vests work best. Occasionally, a chat-room member will announce that he is turning in his user name and password and going to Iraq to become a martyr, a shaheed. Several weeks later, his friends will post a report of the young man blowing himself up. Katz usually logs on at six in the morning. When she has guests for dinner, she leaves a laptop open on the kitchen counter, so she can check for updates. "It is completely addicting," she says. "You wake up thinking, I've been offline for seven hours, but the terrorists have been making plans." Comment: Interestingly, this is exactly what happened with the so-called "triple agent Jordanian asset" who allegedly blew himself up killing 8 CIA staff in Afghanistan on December 30: Suicide Bomber on CIA Base was Jihadist Forum Member You would need to register with SITE to view this page, but we don't recommend that, as it may incriminate you for 'visiting a jihadist website'. Traditionally, intelligence has been filtered through government agencies, such as the C.I.A. and the N.S.A., which gather raw data and analyze it, and the government decides who sees the product of their work and when. Katz, who is the head of an organization called the Search for International Terrorist Entities, or SITE Institute, has made it her business to upset that monopoly. She and her researchers mine online sources for intelligence, which her staff translates and sends out by e-mail to a list of about a hundred subscribers. Katz's client list includes people in the government who are presumably frustrated by how long it takes to get information through official channels; it also includes people in corporate security and in the media, who rarely get much useful material from the C.I.A. She has worked with prosecutors on more than a dozen terrorism investigations, and many American officers in Iraq rely on Katz's e-mails to, for example, brief their troops on the designs for explosives that are passed around terrorist Web sites. "You're thrown into Baghdad, and there are a million different groups out there you've never heard of claiming responsibility for attacks," Robert Worth, a Times reporter who used Katz's service during the eighteen months he spent in Iraq, told me. "Rita really knows what she's talking about - who's responsible for attacks, what's a legitimate terrorist organization and what's not." Because many reporters rebroadcast her information, it can reach the public before people in the government have had a chance to evaluate it; her organization's work is cited in the Times and the Washington Post about twice a month. Katz has many critics, who believe that she is giving terrorists a bigger platform than they would otherwise have, and that the certainty and obsession that make her a dedicated archivist also make her too eager to find plots where they don't exist; she publicized a manual for using botulinum in terror attacks, for example, which experts later concluded was not linked to any serious threat. It's possible that her immersion in the world of terrorism has removed whatever skepticism or doubts she may have had. "Much as Al Jazeera underplays terrorist threats, the SITE Institute at times overhypes them," Michael Scheuer, the former head of the C.I.A.'s bin Laden unit, said. More fundamentally, some people involved in counterterrorism do not think that a private group with limited resources can do as good or as prudent a job as government agencies can. "Intelligence analysis is a set of skills that you learn, not just something that anyone can walk in off the street and pick up," Steven Aftergood, who monitors the intelligence community for the Federation of American Scientists, told me. Katz, however, pointed out that, for example, the professionals consistently missed signals about Al Qaeda before September 11, 2001, and said that she was simply filling a gap. (A 2004 audit showed that the F.B.I. alone had thousands of hours of untranslated intercepts.) Indeed, Katz has received outsourcing contracts from the government. " rest here http://www.sott.net/articles/show/200458-P...icizing-America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. So you'd have a trial by jury first? depends on the circumstances. If its a situation whereby you need to shoot them then do it. I'm not interested in debating the road of "make sure they are armed" or any of this other bollocks either, which is do gooder nonsense. In the heat of the moment its either kill or be killed. If someone runs away, then you presume they are guilty and shoot before they detonate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Failed car bomb was not al-Qaeda plot, says NY mayor - beeb There is no evidence the failed attempt to detonate a car bomb in New York was the work of al-Qaeda or any other big terrorist group, the city's mayor says. I think it was BP running a distraction exercise me sel like one good thing about the yanks is if they get who did it they won't pussy foot around with them like we do. and the guns, they're good too... right? yep, I'd shoot them without a moments hesitation. Yeah! Shoot them all. That's makes us better... right? for shooting terrorists ? No. It gets rid of them. End of story. So you'd have a trial by jury first? depends on the circumstances. If its a situation whereby you need to shoot them then do it. I'm not interested in debating the road of "make sure they are armed" or any of this other bollocks either, which is do gooder nonsense. In the heat of the moment its either kill or be killed. If someone runs away, then you presume they are guilty and shoot before they detonate. If only someone would presume you were guilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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