Movie - The Ghost - brilliant

[Happy Face 29]

nowt to do with the movie TBH

 

Happens whenever anyone mentions a Polanski film.

 

If you really wanted to stick to the movie as a topic you'd have been better off putting your review in the movie thread. It might have stood a chance.

 

You can shove this snotty sort of shit up your arse (ain't that a picture ) btw. If Polanski wanted people to talk about his works only in the context of their artistic merit then he should have kept his hands and cock to himself.

 

I'm sorry if that came across as snotty. Rob's the one insisting we should stick to the film.

 

I think it's an horrible topic but one that should be discussed. Should there be a zero tolerance view taken of ANY and ALL underage sex cases irrespective of the mitigating circumstances? For example, I thought Michael Jackson should have been locked away for a long time, despite there being (apparently) no conclusive evidence of any abuse. I thought he was a dangerous man to be allowed near kids right up until he died. Polanski, on the other hand confessed, but seems to have posed no threat in the 3 decades since the incident.

Edited April 21, 2010 by Happy Face

[ewerk 31596]

At the original sentancing hearing the probation officer, examining psychiatrist, and the victim all recommended against jail time....

 

Which makes it all the more bewildering as to why he chose to flee the country. I'd have more sympathy for him if he'd stayed and faced the music but by jumping bail I now think he should face the full wrath of the court.

[Happy Face 29]

At the original sentancing hearing the probation officer, examining psychiatrist, and the victim all recommended against jail time....

 

Which makes it all the more bewildering as to why he chose to flee the country. I'd have more sympathy for him if he'd stayed and faced the music but by jumping bail I now think he should face the full wrath of the court.

 

The victim's attorney arranged a plea bargain which Polanski accepted, and, under the terms, five of the initial charges were to be dismissed. He pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse, a charge which is synonymous under Californian law with statutory rape. The judge received a probation report and psychiatric evaluation, both indicating that Polanski should not serve jail time, and in response the filmmaker was ordered to ninety days in prison in order to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. He was released after forty-two days.

 

Despite expectations and recommendations that he would receive only probation at sentencing, the judge "suggested to Polanski's attorneys" that he would imprison and then deport him. Upon learning of the judge's plans Polanski fled to France in February 1978 hours before he was to be formally sentenced.

 

Part of his defence this time will be the original judges alleged malfeasance in that matter.

[ewerk 31596]

Didn't his lawyers unsuccessfully try to have the case thrown out a few years ago because of the judge's actions? I can't remember the details.

Edited April 21, 2010 by ewerk

[Happy Face 29]

Didn't his lawyers unsuccessfully try to have the case thrown out a few years ago because of the judge's actions? I can't remember the details.

 

It was refused because Polanski wanted to make the plea in absentia

 

Polanski's request was tentatively denied by Judge Peter Espinoza, who said that he would make a ruling if Polanski appeared in court.

 

Judge Espinoza also stated there was misconduct by the judge in the original case but Polanski must return to the United States to actually apply for dismissal.

 

Read up on it here....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polansk...xual_abuse_case

Edited April 21, 2010 by Happy Face

[luckyluke 2]

nowt to do with the movie TBH

 

Happens whenever anyone mentions a Polanski film.

 

If you really wanted to stick to the movie as a topic you'd have been better off putting your review in the movie thread. It might have stood a chance.

 

You can shove this snotty sort of shit up your arse (ain't that a picture ) btw. If Polanski wanted people to talk about his works only in the context of their artistic merit then he should have kept his hands and cock to himself.

 

I'm sorry if that came across as snotty. Rob's the one insisting we should stick to the film.

 

I think it's an horrible topic but one that should be discussed. Should there be a zero tolerance view taken of ANY and ALL underage sex cases irrespective of the mitigating circumstances? For example, I thought Michael Jackson should have been locked away for a long time, despite there being (apparently) no conclusive evidence of any abuse. I thought he was a dangerous man to be allowed near kids right up until he died. Polanski, on the other hand confessed, but seems to have posed no threat in the 3 decades since the incident.

 

Fair enough.

 

I see where you're coming from, but I think it's very important that Polanski finally faces some sort of justice. Like I said above, I don't mean necessarily locking him up for 20 years, in fact I agree it's not particularly in their public's interest for him to be locked up at all. But fleeing trial to live life as celebrated director for 30 years and only being caught because he slipped up at immigration (at least Ronnie Biggs came back voluntarily for whatever reasons), particularly for something so awful, cannot be allowed to pass.

 

I'm not really sure what punishment he should face though. Maybe the stigma of being labelled as convicted paedophile would be enough? I feel probably not, but it's difficult to think what else he could do apart from chokey. Can't imagine he'd be much use at community service.

[Guest alex]

Lock the dirty bastard up.