Liverpool up for sale

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

So Souness is your source of reference. Fucking hilarious, it really is.

So Evertonians think they outnumber reds, what's new? You believe whatever you like, or failing that make something up as is your wont.

 

Every manager makes mistakes in the transfer market, the best about Rafa was that his mistakes rarely cost a lot of money. For a manager who brought in nearly a 150 million in CL earnings I'd say he had the right to make a few mistakes.

 

N'Gog is a decent squad player, no problem with that.

Eh? Make sense chump.

 

As for Souness why would he lie?

[Renton 21643]

The solutions obvious. Liverpool should ground share with Everton (nice big stadium on Stanley Park) with the ultimate aim of merging clubs - something like 'Everpool, the scandinavian people's club' would work. Only way past glories can be regained I'm afraid.

[Pacinofan 0]

Must be pretty close to 50:50 in Liverpool, possibly slightly more LFC, not surprising considering the massive success they've had. Given that success the attendances at Anfield are a disgrace though, there's no point in expanding because the seats won't be filled unless the club can somehow become the dominant force in English football again, which it won't. Also without doubt Anfield is one of the quietest grounds I have been to.

 

All this boycott stuff and 'first come, first serve' stuff sounds like an excuse too. If Liverpool had endured one tenth of what we have had, what would the crowds be?

 

 

Take it as an excuse all you like, go and read some LFC sites, don't think there's one not calling for official SOS boycotts. In the absence of that many fans have made their own choice.

 

Our crowds in the 2nd division weren't that bad. At a time when Everton were the top club and known as the 'millionaire club'

 

1962 39.237

1961 29.608

1960 30.269

1959 36. 101

1958 38.476

1957 35.743

1956 37.224

1955 36.215

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

Must be pretty close to 50:50 in Liverpool, possibly slightly more LFC, not surprising considering the massive success they've had. Given that success the attendances at Anfield are a disgrace though, there's no point in expanding because the seats won't be filled unless the club can somehow become the dominant force in English football again, which it won't. Also without doubt Anfield is one of the quietest grounds I have been to.

 

All this boycott stuff and 'first come, first serve' stuff sounds like an excuse too. If Liverpool had endured one tenth of what we have had, what would the crowds be?

 

 

Take it as an excuse all you like, go and read some LFC sites, don't think there's one not calling for official SOS boycotts. In the absence of that many fans have made their own choice.

 

Our crowds in the 2nd division weren't that bad. At a time when Everton were the top club and known as the 'millionaire club'

 

1962 39.237

1961 29.608

1960 30.269

1959 36. 101

1958 38.476

1957 35.743

1956 37.224

1955 36.215

Our second division crowds in that era 1948 in particular were 57,000 which puts them in to perspective. Was boom time after the war. See absolutely no relevance in them to today. I remember when Houllier was in his darkest hour of need there were league gates scraping precariously over 30,000, about 03/04 iirc for ONLY coming fifth, would be extremely interesting to see what they'd be in the lower league. Leeds-like would be my guess.

[Pacinofan 0]

Must be pretty close to 50:50 in Liverpool, possibly slightly more LFC, not surprising considering the massive success they've had. Given that success the attendances at Anfield are a disgrace though, there's no point in expanding because the seats won't be filled unless the club can somehow become the dominant force in English football again, which it won't. Also without doubt Anfield is one of the quietest grounds I have been to.

 

All this boycott stuff and 'first come, first serve' stuff sounds like an excuse too. If Liverpool had endured one tenth of what we have had, what would the crowds be?

 

 

Take it as an excuse all you like, go and read some LFC sites, don't think there's one not calling for official SOS boycotts. In the absence of that many fans have made their own choice.

 

Our crowds in the 2nd division weren't that bad. At a time when Everton were the top club and known as the 'millionaire club'

 

1962 39.237

1961 29.608

1960 30.269

1959 36. 101

1958 38.476

1957 35.743

1956 37.224

1955 36.215

Our second division crowds in that era 1948 in particular were 57,000 which puts them in to perspective. Was boom time after the war. See absolutely no relevance in them to today. I remember when Houllier was in his darkest hour of need there were league gates scraping precariously over 30,000, about 03/04 iirc for ONLY coming fifth, would be extremely interesting to see what they'd be in the lower league. Leeds-like would be my guess.

 

I find no significance in attendance figures so after this you can make up as many lies as you choose.

 

Your club in the same years, 7 of which were in Division 1

 

 

1962 27.946

1961 26.500

1960 36.037

1959 39.458

1958 36.241

1957 35.202

1956 37.666

1955 42.925

 

 

Under Houllier our average attendances show no significant difference.

 

2004 42.706

2003 43.243

2002 43.389

2001 43.699

2000 44.074

1999 43.321

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

Liverpool 3 Portsmouth 0

 

By Paul Walker, PA Sport

Click here for full match stats

 

Liverpool clawed their way into fifth spot in the Barclaycard Premiership - with Michael Owen instrumental.

 

The England striker has suffered of late with successive missed penalties - one against Portsmouth in the FA Cup - and a string of missed chances and off-colour displays.

 

But he responded tonight with two goals - and also had a hand in the other - as Liverpool worsened Pompey's plight at the bottom of the table.

 

Owen's name was the first the Kop chanted at the beginning of the match and their last as the England hitman trooped off at the end more than satisfied with his night's work and waving his gratitude to the fans for their support.

 

Boss Gerard Houllier's reaction to Liverpool's defeat at Southampton on Sunday was to leave out Stephane Henchoz, El-Hadji Diouf and Milan Baros and bring in Emile Heskey, Danny Murphy and John Arne Riise.

 

Jamie Carragher switched from left to right-back to let the Norwegian into defence, while Igor Biscan played in the middle of defence.

 

Portsmouth had Svetoslav Todorov in their side for the first time this season, the Bulgarian damaging his knee ligaments two days before the campaign started having been top scorer in the side's Nationwide championship year.

 

Liverpool needed something quick and impressive to settle them - and it came in stunning style in the sixth minute from Dietmar Hamann.

 

Owen retrieved an overhit cross on the left and spun to drop a pass invitingly for Hamann, who hit his right foot drive perfectly on the rise and past Shaka Hislop into the top corner of the net.

 

Pompey hit back when Lomana Lua Lua clipped a pass inside Sami Hyypia for Todorov to race into the box, but Biscan hurled himself across the striker's path and put the ball behind for what was then a wasted Lua Lua corner.

 

But it was an isolated break as Liverpool piled on the pressure, Portsmouth conceding vast acres of the pitch as they strung all 10 outfield players in their own half.

 

The home side kept coming forward and a weaving run from 40 yards out by Owen ended with a low drive to the near post which Hislop kept out, before the keeper blocked a fierce Riise drive.

 

Liverpool's defenders had clearly been told to get forward and shoot.

 

Biscan was next to try, with a twisting run to the edge of the box and drive just wide of the far post before Hislop saved an acute angled volley by Harry Kewell.

 

Then it was Owen's turn.

 

He started a move deep in midfield by sweeping the ball wide to Carragher on the right and then arriving perfectly in the box when the ball broke off a defender to take control and sweep it past Hislop.

 

Alexei Smertin's return ended when he was replaced at the break, with Todorov going off as well. Steve Stone and Matthew Taylor, scorer of Portsmouth's FA Cup equaliser on this ground last month, came on.

 

The changes sparked a Pompey surge, and when Hyypia was penalised for a foul on Stone on the edge of the box, Stefanovic curled the free-kick onto the bar.

 

Murphy saw a 20-yard effort touched just wide by a sprawling Hislop, before Owen put an end to any faint hopes of a Pompey revival in the 58th minute when he met a curling Gerrard corner with a flicked header from close range to make it 3-0.

 

Heskey then robbed Primus on the edge of the box and Owen snapped up the lose ball to move into the area and strike a low drive wide of the far post.

 

Owen then almost created another - his turn in from the line and neat pass into Murphy's stride saw the midfielder fire in a shot which Hislop touched onto a post.

 

Heskey was next to hit woodwork when he flicked a 79th-minute header against a post from Kewell's cross.

 

That proved to be the Australian's last involvement, being replaced by Diouf a minute later.

 

A Murphy free-kick was met by Hyypia on 88 minutes, and Hislop was again forced into a flying tip over as Liverpool - rarely - finished in cruise control.

 

Teams

 

Liverpool: Dudek, Carragher, Biscan, Hyypia, Riise, Murphy, Hamann, Gerrard (Cheyrou 74), Kewell (Diouf 80), Owen, Heskey.

 

Subs Not Used: Henchoz, Baros, Luzi Bernardi.

 

Goals: Hamann 6, Owen 28, 58.

 

Portsmouth: Hislop, Stefanovic, Primus, De Zeeuw, Curtis, Smertin (Stone 45), Faye, Hughes, LuaLua, Todorov (Taylor 46), Mornar.

 

Subs Not Used: Wapenaar, Sheringham, Pasanen.

 

Booked: Stefanovic.

 

Att: 34,663

 

Ref: B Knight (Kent).

34,000 not 30,000, in the league though, sure there was a 33,000 around that point too, I knew the fans had drifted away though, and that just highlights my midweek stay aways point because of the lack of local fanbase.

[NJS 4389]

I think that's around the time my Irish ex-boss started getting begging emails offering cheap tickets for midweek games after years of having no chance.

[Pacinofan 0]

Liverpool 3 Portsmouth 0

 

By Paul Walker, PA Sport

Click here for full match stats

 

Liverpool clawed their way into fifth spot in the Barclaycard Premiership - with Michael Owen instrumental.

 

The England striker has suffered of late with successive missed penalties - one against Portsmouth in the FA Cup - and a string of missed chances and off-colour displays.

 

But he responded tonight with two goals - and also had a hand in the other - as Liverpool worsened Pompey's plight at the bottom of the table.

 

Owen's name was the first the Kop chanted at the beginning of the match and their last as the England hitman trooped off at the end more than satisfied with his night's work and waving his gratitude to the fans for their support.

 

Boss Gerard Houllier's reaction to Liverpool's defeat at Southampton on Sunday was to leave out Stephane Henchoz, El-Hadji Diouf and Milan Baros and bring in Emile Heskey, Danny Murphy and John Arne Riise.

 

Jamie Carragher switched from left to right-back to let the Norwegian into defence, while Igor Biscan played in the middle of defence.

 

Portsmouth had Svetoslav Todorov in their side for the first time this season, the Bulgarian damaging his knee ligaments two days before the campaign started having been top scorer in the side's Nationwide championship year.

 

Liverpool needed something quick and impressive to settle them - and it came in stunning style in the sixth minute from Dietmar Hamann.

 

Owen retrieved an overhit cross on the left and spun to drop a pass invitingly for Hamann, who hit his right foot drive perfectly on the rise and past Shaka Hislop into the top corner of the net.

 

Pompey hit back when Lomana Lua Lua clipped a pass inside Sami Hyypia for Todorov to race into the box, but Biscan hurled himself across the striker's path and put the ball behind for what was then a wasted Lua Lua corner.

 

But it was an isolated break as Liverpool piled on the pressure, Portsmouth conceding vast acres of the pitch as they strung all 10 outfield players in their own half.

 

The home side kept coming forward and a weaving run from 40 yards out by Owen ended with a low drive to the near post which Hislop kept out, before the keeper blocked a fierce Riise drive.

 

Liverpool's defenders had clearly been told to get forward and shoot.

 

Biscan was next to try, with a twisting run to the edge of the box and drive just wide of the far post before Hislop saved an acute angled volley by Harry Kewell.

 

Then it was Owen's turn.

 

He started a move deep in midfield by sweeping the ball wide to Carragher on the right and then arriving perfectly in the box when the ball broke off a defender to take control and sweep it past Hislop.

 

Alexei Smertin's return ended when he was replaced at the break, with Todorov going off as well. Steve Stone and Matthew Taylor, scorer of Portsmouth's FA Cup equaliser on this ground last month, came on.

 

The changes sparked a Pompey surge, and when Hyypia was penalised for a foul on Stone on the edge of the box, Stefanovic curled the free-kick onto the bar.

 

Murphy saw a 20-yard effort touched just wide by a sprawling Hislop, before Owen put an end to any faint hopes of a Pompey revival in the 58th minute when he met a curling Gerrard corner with a flicked header from close range to make it 3-0.

 

Heskey then robbed Primus on the edge of the box and Owen snapped up the lose ball to move into the area and strike a low drive wide of the far post.

 

Owen then almost created another - his turn in from the line and neat pass into Murphy's stride saw the midfielder fire in a shot which Hislop touched onto a post.

 

Heskey was next to hit woodwork when he flicked a 79th-minute header against a post from Kewell's cross.

 

That proved to be the Australian's last involvement, being replaced by Diouf a minute later.

 

A Murphy free-kick was met by Hyypia on 88 minutes, and Hislop was again forced into a flying tip over as Liverpool - rarely - finished in cruise control.

 

Teams

 

Liverpool: Dudek, Carragher, Biscan, Hyypia, Riise, Murphy, Hamann, Gerrard (Cheyrou 74), Kewell (Diouf 80), Owen, Heskey.

 

Subs Not Used: Henchoz, Baros, Luzi Bernardi.

 

Goals: Hamann 6, Owen 28, 58.

 

Portsmouth: Hislop, Stefanovic, Primus, De Zeeuw, Curtis, Smertin (Stone 45), Faye, Hughes, LuaLua, Todorov (Taylor 46), Mornar.

 

Subs Not Used: Wapenaar, Sheringham, Pasanen.

 

Booked: Stefanovic.

 

Att: 34,663

 

Ref: B Knight (Kent).

34,000 not 30,000, in the league though, sure there was a 33,000 around that point too, I knew the fans had drifted away though, and that just highlights my midweek stay aways point because of the lack of local fanbase.

 

But the average for the season wasn't far off capacity, so your Houlliers fan desertion insinuation in his dark days of need were ridiculous.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Pacinofan

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

I think that's around the time my Irish ex-boss started getting begging emails offering cheap tickets for midweek games after years of having no chance.

Aye. Remember that game in the FA Cup where we were both unhappy drawing too many games, and Charlton looked like they could fourth? Newcastle were a big game for them then as we'd finished above them a few times, similar squads, usually good games. I remember was it Cheyrou scored two and we lost 2-1, I think it was Gerrard after the game said it was the best atmosphere at Anfield for years, there was 7 or 8,000 toon fans, and I remember not getting a ticket, and thinking about going in their end, they had an offer on £32 for an adult and two kids, and there was still 5,000 empty seats. Their support grew when they won the CL, but it's going back to it's natural level imo.

[NJS 4389]

But the average for the season wasn't far off capacity, so your Houlliers fan desertion insinuation in his dark days of need were ridiculous.

 

2 or 3 35k crowds would only affect the average by 1/1.5k over a season.

[Howmanheyman 33276]

As I mentioned many times, Liverpool fans are the worst in football, Champions League as recently ago as 18 months, just over 17,000 home fans could be arsed to go last night at TEN POUND a ticket. They'd get 20,000 if they had our recent past, the fans are deserting them, there was never a need for a new stadium, 45,000 is probably too big for them as it is.

 

Once their worldwide appeal goes, what have they got? Serious question, they've got Torres, Gerrard and Reina of any worth, an impossible mountain of debt, and no money for new players. Shame.

Liverpool have got to have been one of the luckiest teams I've ever seen, I just know they'll come out of whatever shite they're in smelling of roses. I''ll also point out for any scouse reds reading this that as well as the luck they've had through the years, they've also had a couple of very good sides, especially the Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge 88-89 side. The West Ham cup final, the Arsenal one and the above all, the CL win against Milan, how fucking undeserved were those trophy wins?

Luckiest team ever in human history. In fact the luckiest entity, more lucky than that air hostess in Brazil who fell 35,000 feet out of a plane door and landed on a trampoline a few years back. Once or twice is it they've made Cup Finals without playing a top flight team. I think the karma is going to even itself out though, and HEYSEL will come back to bite them 25 years late, and perhaps their luck is floating north across the pennines.

 

With you reading so much about Liverpool Football Club you'd know of course that thousands of ST holders have been boycotting cup games for the last two seasons. Unfortunately having such a big fan base means that it doesn't make as big an impact as most would hope. It seems to be getting through a bit more now though. Can't make out what you're saying about the CL game but no doubt, as usual, every last thing you state as 'fact' about LFC has to be checked because of your fondness for making things up as you go along.

 

To your alter ego - You talk shite as well.

 

 

Maybe this Wall Street Journal article will help you understand the war the fanbase are waging on all fronts.

 

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...0757773784.html

 

 

A Texas Tycoon Learns a Lesson: Don't Mess With Liverpudlians

 

Tom Hicks Owns Flailing U.K. Soccer Club; Fans Take Anger to the Bank—Literally

 

By DAVID ENRICH And GREGORY ZUCKERMAN

 

In the old days, English soccer hooligans settled scores with knives and broken bottles. As Texas billionaire Tom Hicks is learning this week, the weapons of choice these days—camera phones, Twitter and spam emails—can be almost as scary.

 

Adam Eljarrah, top, was able to greet the team's owner with an angry poster in New York via a global fan network including Alan Kayll in Liverpool, bottom.

 

Mr. Hicks, co-owner of England's hallowed Liverpool FC, is on the run from a mob of angry fans who blame him for the team's tailspin. The 118-year-old club was one of England's best when he bought it in 2007. Since then, the crippling debt load he took on to buy Liverpool has strained the team's finances and contributed to its woes on the pitch.

 

Now, Liverpool faithful are waging a fierce campaign to evict the American owner. Their strategy: Scare away banks and other financiers who might throw Mr. Hicks a lifeline, starving Mr. Hicks of needed cash and forcing him to sell. To do that, they are using the tools of the digital age to track Mr. Hicks' efforts to drum up money, then bombard would-be lenders with thousands of irate emails, phone calls and Tweets.

 

On Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Hicks learned firsthand what it's like to be the prey in a digital hunt.

 

Around 3:40 p.m., as Mr. Hicks sat on a sidewalk bench in midtown Manhattan, he was spotted by Liverpool native Paul Wilson. It occurred to Mr. Wilson, a 35-year-old financial consultant, that the offices of Deutsche Bank AG and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. were on the same street. He guessed that Mr. Hicks and his son, Tom Hicks Jr., might be visiting the banks to plead for funds.

 

So Mr. Wilson whipped out his BlackBerry, snapped some photos, and zapped the images to his wife, Erin McCloskey. Then he trailed Mr. Hicks walking into the lobby of the building that houses Deutsche.

 

"I didn't throw my coffee on him, but the thought did cross my mind," Mr. Wilson said Wednesday.

 

Ms. McCloskey quickly posted the photos on Twitter and explained the circumstances.

 

Over in Liverpool, the Hicks sighting was like an open-net goal for Alan Kayll, a 40-year-old cab driver who is a ringleader of the anti-Hicks campaign. Mr. Kayll quickly penned a form letter to J.P. Morgan and Deutsche officials urging them not to help Mr. Hicks refinance roughly £200 million ($313 million) that is owed to Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC, stemming from his purchase of the team.

 

"If you join Tom Hicks in raping and pillaging Liverpool Football Club, then you will be making a very powerful enemy," his letter read in part. "You are facing an energized, well-informed mass of Liverpool fans from around the world."

 

He posted the letter online, along with the email addresses of executives at Deutsche and J.P. Morgan.

 

An hour later, a senior J.P. Morgan executive had already received 30 emails from Liverpool fans, with new messages landing every few minutes. "It's totally viral right now," the executive said, deleting emails as they arrived. Public-relations staff at Deutsche said they received hundreds.

 

Neither bank is in talks with Mr. Hicks, said people familiar with the situation. Through a spokesman, Mr. Hicks declined to comment on Tuesday's events or his stewardship of the team.

 

The team's financial woes have hurt its performance. Liverpool finished last season in seventh place, a disaster for fans accustomed to being in England's top four. A team official said this week that the cost of servicing its debts is depleting club resources. Fans argue that makes it tougher to recruit top players.

 

Meanwhile, in Manhattan on Tuesday afternoon, the melee was just beginning. Adam Eljarrah, an 18-year-old Liverpool fan attending New York University, saw Ms. McCloskey's Twitter messages. He showed up outside Deutsche's skyscraper on Park Avenue. The pre-med freshman carried a poster, popular among Liverpool supporters in England, declaring that Mr. Hicks and his co-owner are "Not Welcome ANYWHERE."

 

Mr. Eljarrah says he loitered outside the building for about 45 minutes, hoping to confront Mr. Hicks. Around 6:30 p.m., Mr. Hicks emerged. According to a person familiar with the incident, the younger Mr. Hicks spotted Mr. Eljarrah—identifiable in his red-and-white Liverpool scarf—and told a nearby cop: "This guy is trouble."

 

As the police officer intercepted Mr. Eljarrah, he says, he waved his sign and yelled, "Get out of our club!"

 

Liverpool fans aren't the only ones lashing out at American ownership. Manchester United fans have mounted a campaign against the family of American businessman Malcolm Glazer, which owns the team and has loaded it with debt.

 

In Liverpool, fans who are angling to remove Mr. Hicks are sporting scarves bearing a "Thanks But No Yank$!" slogan.

 

Lately, financial institutions have borne the brunt of Liverpool's rage. Fans have been flooding RBS with letters and phone calls urging the bank to seize the club and give Mr. Hicks the boot. Top executives' inboxes sometimes have been hit with several hundred emails per day.

 

A few weeks ago, some fans started a Facebook page encouraging people to boycott RBS. Mr. Kayll, the cab driver, drew up lists of financial institutions Mr. Hicks is believed to have approached, posting them on a website he helps run that urges fans to help oust Mr. Hicks.

 

The site features an image of a blood-drenched RBS logo. The site's motto: "We will go as far as we need to."

 

Despite the site's menacing slogan and graphic, Mr. Kayll says his group is "totally against violence. We're a group of passionate fans trying to save their football club. All professional people with families."

 

The campaign hit Stephen Schwarzman, the billionaire co-founder of Blackstone Partners, whose GSO Capital Partners hedge fund considered participating in a deal to help Mr. Hicks refinance the RBS loan. By Monday, GSO had backed out of the talks. A Blackstone spokesman, Peter Rose, said the emails (including thousands aimed at Mr. Schwarzman) didn't affect GSO's decision not to participate in the deal.

 

That wasn't the message Mr. Kayll got. Driving his cab in Liverpool Tuesday morning, he says he received a call from London-based GSO executive Michael Whitman. Mr. Kayll says Mr. Whitman told him GSO lost interest in part thanks to the pressure campaign. "He said, 'We understand the passion of Liverpool supporters and obviously took that into consideration,'" Mr. Kayll says.

 

Mr. Whitman didn't respond to requests for comment. Blackstone acknowledges that Mr. Whitman and Mr. Kayll spoke, but deny he said the email campaign forced GSO out of the deal.

 

Still basking in victory hours later, Mr. Kayll was euphoric when the Hicks photos from New York dropped into his lap. He crowed: "We know his every move."

He thinks Howmanheyman is me

 

Well the key point I was making was I hope you go bust, because you're a serious bunch of cunts by any standards.

I'm schizophrenic and so am I!

 

Can you tell me which part of my post was talking shite? The bit where I said you have had some great sides or the bit where I said you've been lucky on occasions?

 

I've never once thought you were lucky in any of your title wins, in fact you really should have had 19 titles as Hillsborough meant you had to play something like 4 games in 8 days and then a cup final if I remember rightly, and it still took a last minute goal to rob you. However, I stand by the fact that you've had the rub of the green in some of the cups. Arsenal, West Ham and AC Milan you were second best, The UEFA cup final win in the nineties could've went either way and under the Souness slide you ended up in a cup final to play 2nd div Sunderland.

 

Unlike Stevie, (Tuco) and a few others I don't go down the 'bin dippers' route as I'm a little uncomfortable calling a city who are generally working class and socialist, (doesn't mean I can't have a pop at your club), but in a NUFC forum it isn't beyond fantasy to sometimes agree with a fellow poster sometimes. In other words, I'm not Stevie! (It's a bit ironic actually as when I joined here Stevie thought I was someone from another forum he used to get on).

 

If I'm putting my cards on the table, actual scousers don't tend to bother me one iota, it's more your hangers on from Surrey/Ireland/Norway/insert-place-name-here who do my napper in.

[Pacinofan 0]

PMSL at 'both' of you.

[ChezGiven 0]

I might be missing something but wasn't this hypocritical cunt dismissing boycotts as a reason for our low attendances and now justifying theirs for the same reason?

[Pacinofan 0]

I might be missing something but wasn't this hypocritical cunt dismissing boycotts as a reason for our low attendances and now justifying theirs for the same reason?

 

I'm really not dismissing anything about boycotts. I was dismissing the fact that one, or should that be two, had your boycotts spreading over 15 years or so.

 

Low attendances, or large for that matter, mean fuck all really. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to see our league attendances dropping to under 20,000. Not only would that please most LFC fans, but it would give your own little bigot the time of his life.

[Ayatollah Hermione 13894]

Nice of him to respond to a reasonable post like a total knob though.

[SCOREBOARD1 0]

Im fucking sick of hearing about Liverpool. They knocked out the cup, so what? Welcome to the real world. Makes me laugh people calling for Hodgson to be sacked. Worlds greatest fans?? Fucking dream on. Read last week in the paper that cunt Daglish saying who ever loses the Man u/liverpool game would be out the championship race???? They were never in the fucking championship race. Time to wake up Liverpool, your shit. Be interesting to see the gates if they win nowt for a few years. Im sure the day-trippers and glory-hunters they attract from Wales, Ireland, Surrey etc will fuck off soon enough.

Edited September 24, 2010 by SCOREBOARD1

[Howmanheyman 33276]

PMSL at 'both' of you.

 

 

Nice of him to respond to a reasonable post like a total knob though.

What can you say?

 

Comes across as reasonable at times as well.

[Howmanheyman 33276]

Im fucking sick of hearing about Liverpool. They knocked out the cup, so what? Welcome to the real world. Makes me laugh people calling for Hodgson to be sacked. Worlds greatest fans?? Fucking dream on. Read last week in the paper that cunt Daglish saying who ever loses the Man u/liverpool game would be out the championship race???? They were never in the fucking championship race. Time to wake up Liverpool, your shit. Be interesting to see the gates if they win nowt for a few years. Im sure the day-trippers and glory-hunters they attract from Wales, Ireland, Surey etc will fuck off soon enough.

Is this stevie as well?

[Pacinofan 0]

PMSL at 'both' of you.

 

 

Nice of him to respond to a reasonable post like a total knob though.

What can you say?

 

Comes across as reasonable at times as well.

 

 

PMSL

Edited September 24, 2010 by Pacinofan

[Howmanheyman 33276]

PMSL at 'both' of you.

 

 

Nice of him to respond to a reasonable post like a total knob though.

What can you say?

 

Comes across as reasonable at times as well.

 

 

PMSL

Yes, you've already said that.

[Park Life 71]

The tides are changing as is always the way in football, the window of opp is closing for the likes of Liv, Everton, Villa and balance will again come to the force.

Everton have IMO come to the end of the Moyes cycle, things are slowing down there and the fight they had for the last few seasons is beginning to dwindle, Everton IMO need a change of manager.

 

 

Liverpool through no fault of their own are at the mercy fo the banks and fiananciers and now the twin towers of Mascherano and Alonso have gone and Gerrrard is moving into the final phase of his career and alrmight rebuilding is needed (but with no significant cash), in the wilderness for a decade unless a mega-bucks owner arrives.

 

 

With Villa losing MON who had them playing well above their station on quick counters and industrious midfiels, the loss of Milner and Barry is hurting and I'm not sure Agbonlahor will make the next level. The field is opening up for Newcastle to begin to fill this void over the next 2/3 seasons.

[Howmanheyman 33276]

The tides are changing as is always the way in football, the window of opp is closing for the likes of Liv, Everton, Villa and balance will again come to the force.

Everton have IMO come to the end of the Moyes cycle, things are slowing down there and the fight they had for the last few seasons is beginning to dwindle, Everton IMO need a change of manager.

 

 

Liverpool through no fault of their own are at the mercy fo the banks and fiananciers and now the twin towers of Mascherano and Alonso have gone and Gerrrard is moving into the final phase of his career and alrmight rebuilding is needed (but with no significant cash), in the wilderness for a decade unless a mega-bucks owner arrives.

 

 

With Villa losing MON who had them playing well above their station on quick counters and industrious midfiels, the loss of Milner and Barry is hurting and I'm not sure Agbonlahor will make the next level. The field is opening up for Newcastle to begin to fill this void over the next 2/3 seasons.

Well put, Parky, but NUFC being NUFC I just can't see us climbing through that 'window'.

[Pacinofan 0]

The tides are changing as is always the way in football, the window of opp is closing for the likes of Liv, Everton, Villa and balance will again come to the force.

Everton have IMO come to the end of the Moyes cycle, things are slowing down there and the fight they had for the last few seasons is beginning to dwindle, Everton IMO need a change of manager.

 

Liverpool through no fault of their own are at the mercy fo the banks and fiananciers and now the twin towers of Mascherano and Alonso have gone and Gerrrard is moving into the final phase of his career and alrmight rebuilding is needed (but with no significant cash), in the wilderness for a decade unless a mega-bucks owner arrives.

 

With Villa losing MON who had them playing well above their station on quick counters and industrious midfiels, the loss of Milner and Barry is hurting and I'm not sure Agbonlahor will make the next level. The field is opening up for Newcastle to begin to fill this void over the next 2/3 seasons.

 

 

Agree with most of that Park Life. Xabi was a big miss and replacing Mascherano with Poulson was a big downgrade.

[Park Life 71]

The tides are changing as is always the way in football, the window of opp is closing for the likes of Liv, Everton, Villa and balance will again come to the force.

Everton have IMO come to the end of the Moyes cycle, things are slowing down there and the fight they had for the last few seasons is beginning to dwindle, Everton IMO need a change of manager.

 

Liverpool through no fault of their own are at the mercy fo the banks and fiananciers and now the twin towers of Mascherano and Alonso have gone and Gerrrard is moving into the final phase of his career and alrmight rebuilding is needed (but with no significant cash), in the wilderness for a decade unless a mega-bucks owner arrives.

 

With Villa losing MON who had them playing well above their station on quick counters and industrious midfiels, the loss of Milner and Barry is hurting and I'm not sure Agbonlahor will make the next level. The field is opening up for Newcastle to begin to fill this void over the next 2/3 seasons.

 

 

Agree with most of that Park Life. Xabi was a big miss and replacing Mascherano with Poulson was a big downgrade.

 

Fair reply good craic.

[Guest Tuco Ramirez]

The tides are changing as is always the way in football, the window of opp is closing for the likes of Liv, Everton, Villa and balance will again come to the force.

Everton have IMO come to the end of the Moyes cycle, things are slowing down there and the fight they had for the last few seasons is beginning to dwindle, Everton IMO need a change of manager.

 

 

Liverpool through no fault of their own are at the mercy fo the banks and fiananciers and now the twin towers of Mascherano and Alonso have gone and Gerrrard is moving into the final phase of his career and alrmight rebuilding is needed (but with no significant cash), in the wilderness for a decade unless a mega-bucks owner arrives.

 

 

With Villa losing MON who had them playing well above their station on quick counters and industrious midfiels, the loss of Milner and Barry is hurting and I'm not sure Agbonlahor will make the next level. The field is opening up for Newcastle to begin to fill this void over the next 2/3 seasons.

Well put, Parky, but NUFC being NUFC I just can't see us climbing through that 'window'.

We'll get half way through and cut our neck on a pain of glass.