Calls for Pope to be put on trial

[NJS 4411]

At the end of the day, anyone who believes that a human can't make errors in their job is a fool. That goes for the pope and also those who wrote the bibles.

 

As a slight point of order, the Pope is only infallible when he addresses something in an encyclical letter which is very rare - his day to day hate speech is his own.

[Park Life 71]

The queen doesn't actually have any power to mobilise her army....not like the Pope and his war on The Golden Compass.

 

Mi5 and 6 swear oaths to the crown tho don't they?

[NJS 4411]

The queen doesn't actually have any power to mobilise her army....not like the Pope and his war on The Golden Compass.

 

Mi5 and 6 swear oaths to the crown tho don't they?

 

I think the armed forces do and until recently MPs did - the latter always made me reluctant to accept the UK as a true democracy because it meant someone like me who would never swear an oath wouldn't be able to be an MP (although I realise the Sinn Fein ones did so on a limited basis).

[ewerk 31213]

The queen doesn't actually have any power to mobilise her army....not like the Pope and his war on The Golden Compass.

 

Mi5 and 6 swear oaths to the crown tho don't they?

 

I think the armed forces do and until recently MPs did - the latter always made me reluctant to accept the UK as a true democracy because it meant someone like me who would never swear an oath wouldn't be able to be an MP (although I realise the Sinn Fein ones did so on a limited basis).

 

Have they changed the rules on MPs swearing an oath of allegiance?

[NJS 4411]

Have they changed the rules on MPs swearing an oath of allegiance?

 

I'd assumed so because I remember reading something about Adams and McGuinness being able to be "full" MPs whereas previously they'd just been provided with office facilities.

[ewerk 31213]

They still haven't accepted their seats in parliament, there was a ruling that they were allowed full entitlement to expenses and office facilities, not sure if that was what you read.

[Happy Face 29]

It was meant to be the document that put a lid on the clerical sex abuse scandals that have swept the Roman Catholic world. But instead of quelling fury from within and without the church, the Vatican stoked the anger of liberal Catholics and women's groups by including a provision in its revised decree that made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes in ecclesiastical law.

 

The change put the "offence" on a par with the sex abuse of minors.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/1...ion-grave-crime

 

 

Are these for real?

 

Allowing women to read their fantasy novel is as bad as buggering a 5 year old?

 

Sometimes I want to chew a brick.

[Happy Face 29]

*waits for Danny's justification*

[Renton 22003]

It was meant to be the document that put a lid on the clerical sex abuse scandals that have swept the Roman Catholic world. But instead of quelling fury from within and without the church, the Vatican stoked the anger of liberal Catholics and women's groups by including a provision in its revised decree that made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes in ecclesiastical law.

 

The change put the "offence" on a par with the sex abuse of minors.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/1...ion-grave-crime

 

 

Are these for real?

 

Allowing women to read their fantasy novel is as bad as buggering a 5 year old?

 

Sometimes I want to chew a brick.

 

Not just read HF, read out loud.

[Happy Face 29]

It was meant to be the document that put a lid on the clerical sex abuse scandals that have swept the Roman Catholic world. But instead of quelling fury from within and without the church, the Vatican stoked the anger of liberal Catholics and women's groups by including a provision in its revised decree that made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes in ecclesiastical law.

 

The change put the "offence" on a par with the sex abuse of minors.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/1...ion-grave-crime

 

 

Are these for real?

 

Allowing women to read their fantasy novel is as bad as buggering a 5 year old?

 

Sometimes I want to chew a brick.

 

Not just read HF, read out loud.

 

Oops. Aye, that's what I meant. Read it out loud from behind a lectern.

 

Must make catholics wretch to think of girl on lectern action.

[NJS 4411]

I find it funny that they are still able to shoot themselves in the foot so easily while "honestly" sticking to their principles.

 

Brown in the Guardian pointed out that there are two sides to their laws - moral and sacramental so while child abuse is covered by moral law, things like breaking the confidentiality of confession and in this case ordaining women are "crimes" against procedure more than anything.

 

The mistake comes in equating these crimes which leads to the obvious headlines.

 

As I've said before I relish every fuck-up they make as it hastens their downfall.