Guest alex Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) We're definitely due another one. I could see Australia getting it at some point in the future as well. Whether that's 'right' or 'wrong' and it's all about money anyway, they'd embrace it a lot more than the locals did in '94. In the same way, at least the people living there got into it in Japan and Korea. By the way, it makes me laugh that the South Africans are moaning about negative press as the reason for English fans not buying loads of tickets. We've gone from being pariahs to the ones expected to bankroll the tournament as far as ticket sales are concerned. It has nowt to do with the cost or logistics like It'll cost a fucking fortune to go. Edited March 25, 2010 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4355 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Germany 2006, for footballing political reasons, everyone knew it was our fucking go. Lots of brown paper bags with Munchen postmarks on that's all I'll say. It was as simple that a deal was done with the Germans to make sure they voted for England for Euro 96 - England trying to get the 2006 was a renege on that deal. Edited March 25, 2010 by NJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Germany 2006, for footballing political reasons, everyone knew it was our fucking go. Lots of brown paper bags with Munchen postmarks on that's all I'll say. It was as simple that a deal was done with the Germans to make sure they voted for England for Euro 96 - England trying to get the 2006 was a renege on that deal. Made by Bert 'the inert' Millichip iirc. Part of the deal was also stepping aside to allow France to get the '98 World Cup too I think. Edited March 25, 2010 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Germany 2006, for footballing political reasons, everyone knew it was our fucking go. Lots of brown paper bags with Munchen postmarks on that's all I'll say. It was as simple that a deal was done with the Germans to make sure they voted for England for Euro 96 - England trying to get the 2006 was a renege on that deal. Aye you're right. Ridiculous when you think we're more important than Germany anyway in the grand scheme of things though. Cow towing to them sausage munchin leather short wearing doils. I'm not deluded but the world looks to England for lots of things in life, and I think footballing culture, just a steady base of life as much as anything, major accomplishments, and the only explanation we haven't been awarded one in what will be 52 years in 2018, is jealousy and politics in my view. A disgrace is what it is. Mexico had 2 in 16 years for fuck sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Germany 2006, for footballing political reasons, everyone knew it was our fucking go. Lots of brown paper bags with Munchen postmarks on that's all I'll say. It was as simple that a deal was done with the Germans to make sure they voted for England for Euro 96 - England trying to get the 2006 was a renege on that deal. Aye you're right. Ridiculous when you think we're more important than Germany anyway in the grand scheme of things though. Cow towing to them sausage munchin leather short wearing doils. I'm not deluded but the world looks to England for lots of things in life, and I think footballing culture, just a steady base of life as much as anything, major accomplishments, and the only explanation we haven't been awarded one in what will be 52 years in 2018, is jealousy and politics in my view. A disgrace is what it is. Mexico had 2 in 16 years for fuck sake. "Cow towing .." - christ I'm sure that's illegal unless you put a light on the back, castors under the hooves and a board with yourr egistration number across its a**** could it be you are thinking of kow-towing - an ancient Chinese custom??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 sorry stevie but England WC record - 1st once Germany WC record - 1st 3 times 2nd 4 times 3rd 3 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 sorry stevie but England WC record - 1st once Germany WC record - 1st 3 times 2nd 4 times 3rd 3 times Are you saying German football has a better heritage, has a better structure, and is more respected than English football? You have two sides in our third tier averaging 25,000 people every week, in their leagues they get 800. Being a luckier national team isn't condusive to being a more important footballing nation. Even Isegrim would admit in 2010 our national team is quite clearly better than theirs, and it's ridiculous to even compare the leagues. We even made the fucking game, like I say the world does look to England, go somewhere like Asia and see it. and anyway... England World War Record - 1st 2 times Germany World War Record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 The strongest leagues rarely have the best national sides though because the former inevitably means a foreign influx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 England World War Record - 1st 2 times Germany World War Record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 England World War Record - 1st 2 times Germany World War Record ah 2 world wars and one world cup eh stevie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 866 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think if they wanted to play the world cup in Africa, it should've been in Egypt. I admit to some bias in this matter, but there are several factors in favor of Egypt: Closer to pretty much everywhere on Earth than South Africa. Actually has rule of law. Considerably better infrastructure. Not quite as corrupt as SA. Actually has a good national side. Some of the cons: English-speaking is limited outside of big cities. Would be pretty hard to find anything approximating a pub. Serious work would be needed to upgrade non-Cairo stadium facilities (but wouldn't that be needed for any African country?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think if they wanted to play the world cup in Africa, it should've been in Egypt. I admit to some bias in this matter, but there are several factors in favor of Egypt: Closer to pretty much everywhere on Earth than South Africa. Actually has rule of law. Considerably better infrastructure. Not quite as corrupt as SA. Actually has a good national side. Some of the cons: English-speaking is limited outside of big cities. Would be pretty hard to find anything approximating a pub. Serious work would be needed to upgrade non-Cairo stadium facilities (but wouldn't that be needed for any African country?) Bit hot in June / July though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think the World Cup should be rotated between England, Mexico, Germany, Spain, Italy and France. Everyone would be happy. I dread to think of another World Cup in Asia, or worse America again or even Australia. The two WC's of my lifetime that haven't felt like WC's are USA 94 and 2002. Say no more. We all rip the piss out of the "world series" of baseball never leaving the US. Restricting the world cup to 6 countries would be almost as bad. I agree with BR. Thats what I mean by "political" ie giving it to banana republics/countries by PC correct loonies, rather than the countries with the biggest support, finance and means to hold it and televise it at the best time of day for the biggest TV audience to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think the World Cup should be rotated between England, Mexico, Germany, Spain, Italy and France. Everyone would be happy. I dread to think of another World Cup in Asia, or worse America again or even Australia. The two WC's of my lifetime that haven't felt like WC's are USA 94 and 2002. Say no more. We all rip the piss out of the "world series" of baseball never leaving the US. Restricting the world cup to 6 countries would be almost as bad. I agree with BR. Thats what I mean by "political" ie giving it to banana republics/countries by PC correct loonies, rather than the countries with the biggest support, finance and means to hold it and televise it at the best time of day for the biggest TV audience to boot. But '94 and '02 (BR's worst world cups) weren't in banana republics. They were in some of the most advanced countries in the world with some of the best facilities seen at any world cup. Half the 12 stadiums in Mexico '86 held less than 40,000. Only one of the 20 stadiums in Korea/Japan were that small. There was nothing under 50,000 in the US either. I don't like it when the world cup is on at shite o'clock either. But FIFA's job is to promote football around the world. Didn't 2002 open up the Asian market for the Premier league over there to the tune of hundreds of millions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 866 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think if they wanted to play the world cup in Africa, it should've been in Egypt. I admit to some bias in this matter, but there are several factors in favor of Egypt: Closer to pretty much everywhere on Earth than South Africa. Actually has rule of law. Considerably better infrastructure. Not quite as corrupt as SA. Actually has a good national side. Some of the cons: English-speaking is limited outside of big cities. Would be pretty hard to find anything approximating a pub. Serious work would be needed to upgrade non-Cairo stadium facilities (but wouldn't that be needed for any African country?) Bit hot in June / July though No more hot (ok, maybe 5 degrees F or so hotter) than Pasadena/Orlando/Dallas were at USA '94. I see your point like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I reckon right if every football fan in the world was polled - where would you like the World Cup next time round excluding your own country, open to any country even if they've just hosted one, I think 80% would say England. That sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I reckon right if every football fan in the world was polled - where would you like the World Cup next time round excluding your own country, open to any country even if they've just hosted one, I think 80% would say England. That sums it up. possibly, aye. I would say Germany, Italy or Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think if they wanted to play the world cup in Africa, it should've been in Egypt. I admit to some bias in this matter, but there are several factors in favor of Egypt: Closer to pretty much everywhere on Earth than South Africa. Actually has rule of law. Considerably better infrastructure. Not quite as corrupt as SA. Actually has a good national side. Some of the cons: English-speaking is limited outside of big cities. Would be pretty hard to find anything approximating a pub. Serious work would be needed to upgrade non-Cairo stadium facilities (but wouldn't that be needed for any African country?) Bit hot in June / July though No more hot (ok, maybe 5 degrees F or so hotter) than Pasadena/Orlando/Dallas were at USA '94. I see your point like. As soon as I wrote that I thought it gets a bit George Michael in Meck-ee-coh in the summer too. Btw, weren't Qatar trying to get it at some point? Unless all the stadiums are indoor, air conditioned jobs I couldn't see that working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10672 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Fucking hate itv coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I reckon right if every football fan in the world was polled - where would you like the World Cup next time round excluding your own country, open to any country even if they've just hosted one, I think 80% would say England. That sums it up. sums it up? you've invented a random, nonexistant statistic and think that thats this whole situation summed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 866 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Btw, weren't Qatar trying to get it at some point? Unless all the stadiums are indoor, air conditioned jobs I couldn't see that working. 2018, aye. And they are all indoor and air-conditioned. Meant to be the future of Gulf football and all that nonsense. I could see a joint Qatar/UAE bid getting it at some point in the not-too-distant future. Big money to be made there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Btw, weren't Qatar trying to get it at some point? Unless all the stadiums are indoor, air conditioned jobs I couldn't see that working. 2018, aye. And they are all indoor and air-conditioned. Meant to be the future of Gulf football and all that nonsense. I could see a joint Qatar/UAE bid getting it at some point in the not-too-distant future. Big money to be made there. I was only reading this recently when I was doing a bit of a wiki on Gabriel Batistuta(he's the spokesman/face of the bid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 866 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 It's 2022 actually, now that I look it up, and they are the hosts of the Asian Cup next year which is meant to be a preview of how far their infrastructure has progressed. Same with that recent friendly between Brazil and England. Not that they have much of a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7214 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Funny to read Stevie's posts. Got to love the self-awarded divine right he's granted England. And FFS he's even left Brazil, the most sucessful National side in the World, off his list of places where it is to be hosted. In fact South America in total is left off the list despite that continent having won 9 World Cups. That's half of the total World Cup with the other 9 having gone to European sides. 10 World Cups have been hosted in Europe, 4 in South America, 3 in North America and 1 in Asia. Having hosted so many, and having such a large percentage of competing teams you'd have thought that Europe would have won a proportionate number of titles. Apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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