Phil 6 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 No problem with SJH or the article. He came into NUFC for the right reasons and I have no problem with the money he made when he decided to get out. Always thought of him as a decent bloke. The money he made selling our club to the first person that would give him the blood money he wanted? regardless of that persons intentions or ability? selling his shares behind the back of his business parter (ie Shepherd) while he lay in a hospital bed? All that is twatful, at best. To be, however, our clubs life president and never be seen at the ground or never be seen to be questioning whats going on is unforgivable. The final nail in the coffin however is to then write an article bleating on about how clubs being bought by people with money who want them as a plaything is wrong when he sold the club to someone who gave that very same reason for taking over. As for not having a problem with the money he made when he decided to get out, Id love to be in a position where I take on a football club "for the love of it", put in a fairly minimal investment then make millions a year out of it and then sell it on for £55m profit and still have people saying he deserves it. You're one of a kind though CT I'll give you that, in one thread you'll argue that the Halls almost bankrupted us and Ashley saved the club yet in another you say you think they fully deserved the millions they took from us. You cant have it both ways, any criticism thrown at Shepherd must also equally go to the Halls, just as the praise for the good times should to. As Caulkin said, take a look down the road for how selling your local football club should be done. Not for the highest bidder or the first past the post but ensuring they have the clubs interests at heart. When you compare what Hall has to say with the article that Sir Bobby wrote a few months before his death it's like chalk and cheese. Whilst gracious that Ashley treated him like royalty at home matches it didn't stop him castigating him for the sheer fucking mess he's caused. I'd love to hear the Ashley sympathisers try to justify why they think Sir Bobby was totally wrong. Are you going to provide a link or just run your mouth off? The article was linked on here about a year ago - it'll take time to find it, but I will... Found it... http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=20898 thanks for finding it. His letter was levelled at Wise never visiting Newcastle, given Wise is no longer here I don't see the relevance. Maybe i've missed something? ...and just to clear any misguidings you have SBR was an Ashley sympathisers. Bobby didn't blame Ashley ... his big disappointment was Wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Aye and who appointed (and therefore who did he blame) for Wise? 'misguidings'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Aye and who appointed (and therefore who did he blame) for Wise? 'misguidings'.... An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 You know full well (as do I) by context of what he wrote who Sir Bobby held accountable for the appointment of Wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31209 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 His dig at Keegan was unneccessary, what was the problem between those two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4831 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 His dig at Keegan was unneccessary, what was the problem between those two? didn't he finish keegans England career via the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) Given the Haals are only worth £75m total and looking at the debt the club has, I think he would have sold his shares to Bob Murray if he'd put the money up. Edited March 17, 2010 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Given the Haals are only worth £75m total and looking at the debt the club has, I think he would have sold his shares to Bob Murray if he'd put the money up. You betcha! Haal would have sold to anyone. I reckon he couldn't [and probably still can't] believe his luck at pulling off the sting he did on LardAsh. LardAsh probably did want to do the due dilligence stuff, but Hall convinced him to "rush, rush, rush because Shepherd was in hospital and the moment couldn't be missed" or something similar. Normal businessmen would have taken a step back, but LardAsh, being a compulsive lad, couldn't stop himself from taking the plunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Harsh. For a year the majority of fans thought he was a good appointment. So he suckered us as well basically. He did, and yes we were all suckered, my argument would be that Hall did nothing to confirm how good or bad Ashleys intentions were. He took no time to look into him, he merely grabbed the cash and ran. Plus as "Life President" he should now be kicking off but he doesnt. Im not sure how you can level that at SJH, Perhaps Ashley came in with good intentions. Perhaps he just bullshitted him. Nobody really knows (bar SJH and Ashley) though, so I guess its a moot point. The speed at which the deal was done proves he didnt spend any time looking after the best interests of our club imho. Anyone can walk into a football club and spout anything they like to the current custodians but its down to them to check that out. I agree that he didnt have any legal requirement to do so however morally and as a "fan" he should have put the clubs long term future ahead of any quick buck, he owed us that much considering it was the fans who ensured he received his hefty millions over the years. I well believe that had he done the necessary checks then he'd have still sold to Ashley, there was nothing there to say that the fat man was going to end up the way he did. At least then though, he could hold his head up and say "I checked". Its time we used the word custodians rather than owners when referring to whoever is in charge, thats all they are the holders of the keys, this football club will always be the property of the fans, the people who rightfully own it. Seymour, McKeag, Hall, Shepherd, Ashley they're all just passing through as far as Im concerned. EDIT: Something Ive not made clear from the posts above is that I credit Hall with the rejuvenation of this club, he, Shepherd and co pulled us up from the brink and turned us into a club that competed with the best of them. Its going to take another Hall to do exactly the same again only this time, as Hall himself alludes to it wont be good enough to pull a million quid or so together and add in a ton of ambition and business sense. It will take hundreds of millions to even get us close to it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4831 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak That's one hell of a fall you've set yourself up for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10970 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak Not when there's a whole catalogue of new ones to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? A football club making a profit is a successfully RAN football club. A succesfull football club twins consistent profit with the winning of domestic and continental trophies. Anything else is NOT success. Simples. Edited March 18, 2010 by Geordie Lad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? A football club making a profit is a successfully RAN football club. A succesfull football club twins consistent profit with the winning of domestic and continental trophies. Anything else is NOT success. Simples. So who does this ? And why do you support your football club ? To look at the balance sheet or the league table ? Edited March 18, 2010 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? A football club making a profit is a successfully RAN football club. A succesfull football club twins consistent profit with the winning of domestic and continental trophies. Anything else is NOT success. Simples. So who does this ? And why do you support your football club ? To look at the balance sheet or the league table ? WTF Leazes? Everyone at the club does this...from the players, backroom staff, accountants, marketers, chairman and fans. I support MY club because im a fucking geordie. Look at both but more importantly the league table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 No problem with SJH or the article. He came into NUFC for the right reasons and I have no problem with the money he made when he decided to get out. Always thought of him as a decent bloke. The money he made selling our club to the first person that would give him the blood money he wanted? regardless of that persons intentions or ability? selling his shares behind the back of his business parter (ie Shepherd) while he lay in a hospital bed? All that is twatful, at best. To be, however, our clubs life president and never be seen at the ground or never be seen to be questioning whats going on is unforgivable. The final nail in the coffin however is to then write an article bleating on about how clubs being bought by people with money who want them as a plaything is wrong when he sold the club to someone who gave that very same reason for taking over. As for not having a problem with the money he made when he decided to get out, Id love to be in a position where I take on a football club "for the love of it", put in a fairly minimal investment then make millions a year out of it and then sell it on for £55m profit and still have people saying he deserves it. You're one of a kind though CT I'll give you that, in one thread you'll argue that the Halls almost bankrupted us and Ashley saved the club yet in another you say you think they fully deserved the millions they took from us. You cant have it both ways, any criticism thrown at Shepherd must also equally go to the Halls, just as the praise for the good times should to. As Caulkin said, take a look down the road for how selling your local football club should be done. Not for the highest bidder or the first past the post but ensuring they have the clubs interests at heart. When you compare what Hall has to say with the article that Sir Bobby wrote a few months before his death it's like chalk and cheese. Whilst gracious that Ashley treated him like royalty at home matches it didn't stop him castigating him for the sheer fucking mess he's caused. I'd love to hear the Ashley sympathisers try to justify why they think Sir Bobby was totally wrong. Are you going to provide a link or just run your mouth off? You ARE one of those who look at balance sheets instead of league tables aren't you ? What are you going to do when the penny drops and you realise that you need to spend the money if you want success on the pitch (to keep income coming in.............) ie the old board DID have a clue after all .......... in fact a lot more than Fat Ash. THAT is football business. Unless you are happy being a yo-yo club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? A football club making a profit is a successfully RAN football club. A succesfull football club twins consistent profit with the winning of domestic and continental trophies. Anything else is NOT success. Simples. So who does this ? And why do you support your football club ? To look at the balance sheet or the league table ? WTF Leazes? Everyone at the club does this...from the players, backroom staff, accountants, marketers, chairman and fans. I support MY club because im a fucking geordie. Look at both but more importantly the league table. Wasn't a question aimed at you specifially GL........ I don't expect one or two people will be able to give a satisfactory reply though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? A football club making a profit is a successfully RAN football club. A succesfull football club twins consistent profit with the winning of domestic and continental trophies. Anything else is NOT success. Simples. So who does this ? And why do you support your football club ? To look at the balance sheet or the league table ? WTF Leazes? Everyone at the club does this...from the players, backroom staff, accountants, marketers, chairman and fans. I support MY club because im a fucking geordie. Look at both but more importantly the league table. Wasn't a question aimed at you specifially GL........ I don't expect one or two people will be able to give a satisfactory reply though. I know it wasnt but felt necessary to reply all the same. Tbf Leazes id imagine most fans would look at it the same way...including yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? A football club making a profit is a successfully RAN football club. A succesfull football club twins consistent profit with the winning of domestic and continental trophies. Anything else is NOT success. Simples. So who does this ? And why do you support your football club ? To look at the balance sheet or the league table ? WTF Leazes? Everyone at the club does this...from the players, backroom staff, accountants, marketers, chairman and fans. I support MY club because im a fucking geordie. Look at both but more importantly the league table. Wasn't a question aimed at you specifially GL........ I don't expect one or two people will be able to give a satisfactory reply though. I know it wasnt but felt necessary to reply all the same. Tbf Leazes id imagine most fans would look at it the same way...including yourself. I realised in the mid 70's that it was success on the pitch that mattered. The decline of the club in the late 1970's, and consequent loss of Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle simply confirmed it. The Halls and Shepherd changed all that. Anybody who has experienced that level of mediocrity and failure [rather than the disgrace of wasting money on quality players and not qualifying for europe or losing a Cup Final] will see my point. Although Mike Ashley has delivered those old expectations back again and a sizeable number of people have yet to truly understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Anyone who thinks a seller should do due diligence on buyer is just really really naive and misguided. If someone is prepared to invest £135m of personal wealth into something, that is usually enough to suggest good intentions. Criticising Hall for this is absurd. OK I accept that due diligence is perhaps wrong. I do seem to recall that Hall said that Mike Ashley was the best person to take this club forward - a view that he has yet to deviate from. That kind of sticks in throat a bit but yes, it does cloud sensible opinion... Peaks and troughs dear Craig, peaks and troughs. Ashley wont make the same mistake twice. We're climbing out of a trough towards a peak CT, what exactly is this "peak" you talk about ? Profit ? Or success on the pitch ? Because you - and others like you (and correct me if I am wrong) who see profit as success, can stand by for seasons of mid table placings and lots of turgid football at best in the premiership. Do you prefer this to attempting to get into europe and buying quality players like you have grown up seeing play for the club, because believe me, if you do want this again, he is going to have to spend the money, and what do you know, the Debt word will come back. For my money, you and others like you, particularly those who post on NO like gejon who slated the old board for not winning the premiership and licking Ashleys arse for getting relegated and promoted back again, will soon, in fact very soon, be urging him to splash the cash when you realise its the only way he is going to do it. Mistakes ? What mistakes ? A football club making a profit is a successfully RAN football club. A succesfull football club twins consistent profit with the winning of domestic and continental trophies. Anything else is NOT success. Simples. So who does this ? And why do you support your football club ? To look at the balance sheet or the league table ? WTF Leazes? Everyone at the club does this...from the players, backroom staff, accountants, marketers, chairman and fans. I support MY club because im a fucking geordie. Look at both but more importantly the league table. Wasn't a question aimed at you specifially GL........ I don't expect one or two people will be able to give a satisfactory reply though. I know it wasnt but felt necessary to reply all the same. Tbf Leazes id imagine most fans would look at it the same way...including yourself. I realised in the mid 70's that it was success on the pitch that mattered. The decline of the club in the late 1970's, and consequent loss of Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle simply confirmed it. The Halls and Shepherd changed all that. Anybody who has experienced that level of mediocrity and failure [rather than the disgrace of wasting money on quality players and not qualifying for europe or losing a Cup Final] will see my point. Although Mike Ashley has delivered those old expectations back again and a sizeable number of people have yet to truly understand it. Leazes man haway mate give it a rest eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10970 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Leazes man haway mate give it a rest eh? ahhh Grasshopper, you are young, but you will learn. the lady's not for turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Leazes man haway mate give it a rest eh? ahhh Grasshopper, you are young, but you will learn. the lady's not for turning. Fish your a sound guy but dont patronise me fella. For all Leazes makes a good point that point only needs to be made ONCE. Not once per day, over and over and over again incessantly trying his best to make others conform to his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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