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What is so dreadfully sad about this election is that it has been one largely swayed by perceptions of image. How else would Cameron, famously light on policy for so long, make such gains? Brown has been Labour's biggest handicap in the last couple of years. Not through any particular fault of his own as I think he has suffered a massive character assassination, which has been twisted into a personifaction of Labour as an ageing, spent, confused and incompetent force.

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Two seats left to call (admittedly one waiting for a by-election) and both are Tory defences. If they successfully keep them then the numbers will be:

 

Con 307

Lab 258

LD 57

Others 28

 

When you consider the exit poll at 10pm last night was the following, they were bloody accurate:

 

Con 307

Lab 255

LD 59

Others 29

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Bloke at work is pretty downcast. He's a Tory volunteer who's been helping out with the election campaign from Tynemouth which was the NE HQ for the Tories. He was pretty sure they'd win in Tynemouth and get an overall, narrow majority.

 

I'm sorry but :).

 

Sure he's a decent bloke etc but didn't think much of their candidate or the deluge of tory shit that came through my door each day (despite a Labour poster in the window). I've got absolutely loads of local issues with them too. Tynemouth staying red is my main plus from last night, looks safer now than ever as well.

 

 

Good call fella, I was feeling a bit pissed off about the whole thing but then chirped up when I heard Tynemouth was still Labour by a canny margin. A ray of sunshine in the pissing rain.

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There will be no understanding between the Tories and LD's. Just can't see it.

 

 

Cameron will be PM by Monday.

 

Mandy will strike tomorrow once he's fired up the deathstar.

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36% of the country think like CT though alex.

To be accurate it’s 36% of the half the electorate, which is about 18% of the country. It's hardly the ringing endorsement Cameron is making it out to be.

 

After 15 years of any government and an election in the midst of a global financial meltdown the opposition would normally stroll to a majority. This result really is a bit of an embarrassment for the Conservatives.

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36% of the country think like CT though alex.

To be accurate it’s 36% of the half the electorate, which is about 18% of the country. It's hardly the ringing endorsement Cameron is making it out to be.

 

After 15 years of any government and an election in the midst of a global financial meltdown the opposition would normally stroll to a majority. This result really is a bit of an embarrassment for the Conservatives.

 

If that's the case it's a monstrous kick in the nads for Labour

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I've seen a few headlines saying even if the liberals strike a deal with labour they can't form a majority but add in the SNP and PC and I think they can.

 

Edit: shit - 324 - would need the Green and one NI (Alliance?)

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I've seen a few headlines saying even if the liberals strike a deal with labour they can't form a majority but add in the SNP and PC and I think they can.

 

Edit: shit - 324 - would need the Green and one NI (Alliance?)

Is that any way to run a country though?

 

What are the chances of some form of electoral reform being pushed through, then we have another go in say, six months?

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36% of the country think like CT though alex.

To be accurate it’s 36% of the half the electorate, which is about 18% of the country. It's hardly the ringing endorsement Cameron is making it out to be.

 

After 15 years of any government and an election in the midst of a global financial meltdown the opposition would normally stroll to a majority. This result really is a bit of an embarrassment for the Conservatives.

 

If that's the case it's a monstrous kick in the nads for Labour

Not really. After fifteen years of the last Tory government the electorate deserted them in huge numbers and Blair came to power with a 100 plus majority. Either Labour have done a far better job than the last tory government, or Cameron has provided an unpalatable alternative.

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I've seen a few headlines saying even if the liberals strike a deal with labour they can't form a majority but add in the SNP and PC and I think they can.

 

Edit: shit - 324 - would need the Green and one NI (Alliance?)

Is that any way to run a country though?

 

What are the chances of some form of electoral reform being pushed through, then we have another go in say, six months?

 

It's how Europeans have been doing it for decades though.

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36% of the country think like CT though alex.

To be accurate it’s 36% of the half the electorate, which is about 18% of the country. It's hardly the ringing endorsement Cameron is making it out to be.

 

After 15 years of any government and an election in the midst of a global financial meltdown the opposition would normally stroll to a majority. This result really is a bit of an embarrassment for the Conservatives.

 

From what I can see, the share of the vote is this:

 

Con 39.1%

Lab 30.3%

LD 22.5%

Others 8%

 

Going by your figures of half (wasn't the turnout much higher than that?) Then we can deduce that around 20% of the country backed Cameron, 15% backed Brown and 11% backed Clegg.

 

Ringing endorsment or not, it's clear the country as a whole preferred the idea of Cameron to Brown. :)

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The other thing with PR is that it will be much harder for big business and the markets buying elections as there will be much more need for across the board allignements needed to get legislation through. :)

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I've seen a few headlines saying even if the liberals strike a deal with labour they can't form a majority but add in the SNP and PC and I think they can.

 

Edit: shit - 324 - would need the Green and one NI (Alliance?)

Is that any way to run a country though?

 

What are the chances of some form of electoral reform being pushed through, then we have another go in say, six months?

 

It's how Europeans have been doing it for decades though.

That doesn't make it right though.

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What pisses me off, is the "ooh we've got to make sure the markets are happy" merchants (who've already been on the box) In other words our economy and wellbeing is at the whim of the same few cunts (and institutions of cunts) who throw billions of pretendy £££'s $$$'s yen etc around.

 

It's fundamentaly fucking shite.

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36% of the country think like CT though alex.

To be accurate it’s 36% of the half the electorate, which is about 18% of the country. It's hardly the ringing endorsement Cameron is making it out to be.

 

After 15 years of any government and an election in the midst of a global financial meltdown the opposition would normally stroll to a majority. This result really is a bit of an embarrassment for the Conservatives.

 

From what I can see, the share of the vote is this:

 

Con 39.1%

Lab 30.3%

LD 22.5%

Others 8%

 

Going by your figures of half (wasn't the turnout much higher than that?) Then we can deduce that around 20% of the country backed Cameron, 15% backed Brown and 11% backed Clegg.

 

Ringing endorsment or not, it's clear the country as a whole preferred the idea of Cameron to Brown. :)

I’ve checked, turnout was about 60% not the 50% reported last night. Not that it matters much.

 

Out of every 10 voters 4 voted for Cameron and 3 voted for Brown. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that slightly more people prefer the idea of Cameron to Brown, which is why we’ve ended up with a hung parliament.

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I've seen a few headlines saying even if the liberals strike a deal with labour they can't form a majority but add in the SNP and PC and I think they can.

 

Edit: shit - 324 - would need the Green and one NI (Alliance?)

 

Are you including the SDLP? Also I think 324 is in practice enough as Sinn Fein dont take up their seats.

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