General Election 2010

[Christmas Tree 4709]

Its the mish mash result that basically hamstrings the country. An outright Labour or Tory win would have been better. Now it will all be about back room deals and jobs for the boys.

 

If I was Cameron I would probably avoid any shady deals, let the Lib Lab pact have a go and then wait for the next general election in November.

 

Lib Lab coalition wouldn't be big enough though.

 

You should be gutted by last night. Given all the factors against Labour, the poor Lib Dem showing, and the media influence the tories have had in a bankrolled tory campaign, they've been unable to even get a majority. Cameron should resign imo.

 

First of all, we should all be gutted because chaos will now rule regardless.

 

The Sky political bloke saying how Labour got less votes this time than they did under Kinnock yet could still form a government.

 

Think it all points to a quick change in the voting system.

 

That would be a change the Conservative party alone has flatly rejected then?

 

How ironic.

 

You must admit this was a piss poor performance from the tories, given the circumstances. People don't like your man Cameron I'm afraid.

 

 

I disagree, the truth is people dont like Thatcher.

 

How utterly patronising of you CT. People don't like him, he comes across as a priviliged, PR orientated tosser with no convictions. Read this thread again if you don't believe me, and accept he has led the tories to failure.

 

 

How naive of you.

 

I suggest you re-read this thread and see how many times a woman who left office 20 years ago gets a mention.

 

Scotland Tory free and the North East for about 20 years???

 

Wonder why? Cameron......Nope.

 

The guy on the beeb this morning said that all the voters talk about in Scotland on the doorstep is Thatcher.

 

Alex is right, they have all had a mare but it is the UK plc that will suffer.

[Christmas Tree 4709]

Darth Mandhelson will be on the blower all day I'd imagine.

 

 

 

 

How the Tories let this man get away is a mystery

[Christmas Tree 4709]

does anyone know what happened to the tory vote in south tyneside.....(just out of interest).

[Guest alex]

Its the mish mash result that basically hamstrings the country. An outright Labour or Tory win would have been better. Now it will all be about back room deals and jobs for the boys.

 

If I was Cameron I would probably avoid any shady deals, let the Lib Lab pact have a go and then wait for the next general election in November.

 

Lib Lab coalition wouldn't be big enough though.

 

You should be gutted by last night. Given all the factors against Labour, the poor Lib Dem showing, and the media influence the tories have had in a bankrolled tory campaign, they've been unable to even get a majority. Cameron should resign imo.

 

First of all, we should all be gutted because chaos will now rule regardless.

 

The Sky political bloke saying how Labour got less votes this time than they did under Kinnock yet could still form a government.

 

Think it all points to a quick change in the voting system.

 

That would be a change the Conservative party alone has flatly rejected then?

 

How ironic.

 

You must admit this was a piss poor performance from the tories, given the circumstances. People don't like your man Cameron I'm afraid.

 

 

I disagree, the truth is people dont like Thatcher.

 

How utterly patronising of you CT. People don't like him, he comes across as a priviliged, PR orientated tosser with no convictions. Read this thread again if you don't believe me, and accept he has led the tories to failure.

 

 

How naive of you.

 

I suggest you re-read this thread and see how many times a woman who left office 20 years ago gets a mention.

 

Scotland Tory free and the North East for about 20 years???

 

Wonder why? Cameron......Nope.

 

The guy on the beeb this morning said that all the voters talk about in Scotland on the doorstep is Thatcher.

 

Alex is right, they have all had a mare but it is the UK plc that will suffer.

It's a bit of Thatcher, still, but it's Cameron as well. I was still at school when Thatcher was kicked out ffs.

[Happy Face 29]

does anyone know what happened to the tory vote in south tyneside.....(just out of interest).

 

Miliband dropped 8%

 

60% of those voters went to the BNP though.

Edited May 7, 2010 by Happy Face

[Park Life 71]

Green

SDLP

PC

SNP

 

Will chuck in with labour. That's another 15 or so.

[Happy Face 29]

Labour

 

South Shields -8.8%

Jarrow -4.9%

Gateshead -7.3%

[NJS 4375]

does anyone know what happened to the tory vote in south tyneside.....(just out of interest).

 

Miliband dropped 8%

 

90% of those voters went to the BNP though.

 

Ban the fuckers from Ocean road.

[AgentAxeman 174]

meh, anyone up here who says its not about thatcher is deluding themselves tbh.

[Happy Face 29]

does anyone know what happened to the tory vote in south tyneside.....(just out of interest).

 

Miliband dropped 8%

 

60% of those voters went to the BNP though.

 

 

Sorry, you said Tory...my bad....

 

South Shields +4%

Jarrow +7.8%

Gateshead +4.8%

[NJS 4375]

How naive of you.

 

I suggest you re-read this thread and see how many times a woman who left office 20 years ago gets a mention.

 

Scotland Tory free and the North East for about 20 years???

 

Wonder why? Cameron......Nope.

 

The guy on the beeb this morning said that all the voters talk about in Scotland on the doorstep is Thatcher.

 

Alex is right, they have all had a mare but it is the UK plc that will suffer.

 

I think Thatcher is the most evil woman in history but I had no great personal problem with Hague, Duncan Smith or Howard (apart from them being Tories obviously).

 

However Cameron has really triggered a base hatred switch which has nothing to do with him having the best chance of winning for a while.

[Park Life 71]

Milliband has been on the blower to Lib Dems BBC says.

[Guest Barrack Road]

I feel quite depressed by it all. It shouldnt matter but I just cant stand to see Camerons smug face

He's won fuck all though, and he won't be prime minister. Brown will still be there in 2 years time, and that's the thing to get angriest about of all.

 

Doubt it.

 

Any minority government is going to have to include the party with the largest minority.

 

...and even if Labour did retain any semblence of power, Brown would go the journey. Maybe Miliband

Nope.

[Guest alex]

meh, anyone up here who says its not about thatcher is deluding themselves tbh.

Must be galling that you like her so much yet she's still stopping the Tories getting in

[Guest alex]

Green

SDLP

PC

SNP

 

Will chuck in with labour. That's another 15 or so.

Good point like. They may not like Labour but Plaid and the SNP wouldn't dare cosy up to the Tories.

[Park Life 71]

Mandy and Lab will offer PR and Clegg will take that for the next election. Milliband will be next leader.

[Park Life 71]

Green

SDLP

PC

SNP

 

Will chuck in with labour. That's another 15 or so.

Good point like. They may not like Labour but Plaid and the SNP wouldn't dare cosy up to the Tories.

 

[Happy Face 29]

I feel quite depressed by it all. It shouldnt matter but I just cant stand to see Camerons smug face

He's won fuck all though, and he won't be prime minister. Brown will still be there in 2 years time, and that's the thing to get angriest about of all.

 

Doubt it.

 

Any minority government is going to have to include the party with the largest minority.

 

...and even if Labour did retain any semblence of power, Brown would go the journey. Maybe Miliband

Nope.

 

Constitutionally you're right.

 

But the notion of the party with the highest proportion of votes and the highest number of seats having no power would disgust a lot of people who'd make their feelings clear all the way up to the next election (within a year).

Edited May 7, 2010 by Happy Face

[Guest Barrack Road]

Its the mish mash result that basically hamstrings the country. An outright Labour or Tory win would have been better. Now it will all be about back room deals and jobs for the boys.

 

If I was Cameron I would probably avoid any shady deals, let the Lib Lab pact have a go and then wait for the next general election in November.

 

Lib Lab coalition wouldn't be big enough though.

 

You should be gutted by last night. Given all the factors against Labour, the poor Lib Dem showing, and the media influence the tories have had in a bankrolled tory campaign, they've been unable to even get a majority. Cameron should resign imo.

 

First of all, we should all be gutted because chaos will now rule regardless.

 

The Sky political bloke saying how Labour got less votes this time than they did under Kinnock yet could still form a government.

 

Think it all points to a quick change in the voting system.

 

That would be a change the Conservative party alone has flatly rejected then?

 

How ironic.

 

You must admit this was a piss poor performance from the tories, given the circumstances. People don't like your man Cameron I'm afraid.

 

 

I disagree, the truth is people dont like Thatcher.

 

How utterly patronising of you CT. People don't like him, he comes across as a priviliged, PR orientated tosser with no convictions. Read this thread again if you don't believe me, and accept he has led the tories to failure.

He's right. The average bloke on Tyneside was a working man in the 70's and 80's, many of them including my father, had times on the dole due to the construction industry being on its' arse, and old industries shutting down (for the long term good of the country imo). These people don't care about anything else, they're ingrained in the fact the Conservatives ruined the north and created a north south divide where the tories give to the rich and take from the poor. It's been passed down through generations to a very large amount of people who aren't politically minded enough to think for themselves, and will always display a "we've always voted Labour attitude". You know that's the truth, forgetting about the merits of the latest policies. It's even more true in Liverpool who are an even more insular siege mentality people than we are, fucking Socialist Labour getting votes over there

[Happy Face 29]

As Nick Robinson has just said...

 

There is only one potential stable majority available. That is a combination of the Conservatives and the Lib Dems.

 

The question, therefore, is what terms will David Cameron offer and what will Nick Clegg accept. Oh, and one other thing, will their parties accept their proposals?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/20...otential_s.html

[Guest alex]

Tories 3rd where I live. Down on last time round where they came 2nd. Lib Dems vote was actually up. Funny old election like.

[AgentAxeman 174]

meh, anyone up here who says its not about thatcher is deluding themselves tbh.

Must be galling that you like her so much yet she's still stopping the Tories getting in

 

 

dont worry, the witch will be dead soon enough!

 

[Happy Face 29]

Its the mish mash result that basically hamstrings the country. An outright Labour or Tory win would have been better. Now it will all be about back room deals and jobs for the boys.

 

If I was Cameron I would probably avoid any shady deals, let the Lib Lab pact have a go and then wait for the next general election in November.

 

Lib Lab coalition wouldn't be big enough though.

 

You should be gutted by last night. Given all the factors against Labour, the poor Lib Dem showing, and the media influence the tories have had in a bankrolled tory campaign, they've been unable to even get a majority. Cameron should resign imo.

 

First of all, we should all be gutted because chaos will now rule regardless.

 

The Sky political bloke saying how Labour got less votes this time than they did under Kinnock yet could still form a government.

 

Think it all points to a quick change in the voting system.

 

That would be a change the Conservative party alone has flatly rejected then?

 

How ironic.

 

You must admit this was a piss poor performance from the tories, given the circumstances. People don't like your man Cameron I'm afraid.

 

 

I disagree, the truth is people dont like Thatcher.

 

How utterly patronising of you CT. People don't like him, he comes across as a priviliged, PR orientated tosser with no convictions. Read this thread again if you don't believe me, and accept he has led the tories to failure.

He's right. The average bloke on Tyneside was a working man in the 70's and 80's, many of them including my father, had times on the dole due to the construction industry being on its' arse, and old industries shutting down (for the long term good of the country imo). These people don't care about anything else, they're ingrained in the fact the Conservatives ruined the north and created a north south divide where the tories give to the rich and take from the poor. It's been passed down through generations to a very large amount of people who aren't politically minded enough to think for themselves, and will always display a "we've always voted Labour attitude". You know that's the truth, forgetting about the merits of the latest policies. It's even more true in Liverpool who are an even more insular siege mentality people than we are, fucking Socialist Labour getting votes over there

 

My Dad moved to the North from the Isle of Man (where his parents were small business owners) in 1970. He's always been a bit of a fan of Maggie Thatcher.

 

I still think Cameron's a twat on his own terms though.

[Park Life 71]

As Nick Robinson has just said...

 

There is only one potential stable majority available. That is a combination of the Conservatives and the Lib Dems.

 

The question, therefore, is what terms will David Cameron offer and what will Nick Clegg accept. Oh, and one other thing, will their parties accept their proposals?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/20...otential_s.html

 

Lib Dems are instinctively closer to Labour though.

 

Still predicting a Lib Lab pact.

[Meenzer 15429]

Puzzled by the whole Lib Dem slide backwards, clearly people didn't like the thought of a hung parliament.

 

I bet the Murdoch spin on the "amnesty on ALL long-standing, non-criminal ILLEGAL immigrants" policy didn't help, either. Ultimately, though, people flee to the two big parties when the result is tight.