Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Oh dear Dave, don't dress this up as a victory. It wasn't really. Next comes the scaremongering he accuses others of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 He's seeking collaboration with the Lib Dems with them as lap dogs. Sad stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 He's seeking collaboration with the Lib Dems with them as lap dogs. Sad stuff. ...but can't offer PR, skirted around it. Also Lib Dems won't agree to tackling deficit immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30614 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 He's seeking collaboration with the Lib Dems with them as lap dogs. Sad stuff. The thing is, if the Lib Dems pulled out of a coalition and caused the government to fail then that would be a massive victory for those against PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 If the Lib dems buy this horseshit I will be truely disappointed. How many times has he said 'stong and stable government'? Awful stuff from Cameron. What a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44886 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 He's a full on turd burglar, this bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 He's seeking collaboration with the Lib Dems with them as lap dogs. Sad stuff. tbf Renton, given the same position Brown would be doing exactly the same. They're all in it for themselves. Out of the three I think Clegg is trying to see it from the country's perspective more than the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 He's seeking collaboration with the Lib Dems with them as lap dogs. Sad stuff. ...but can't offer PR, skirted around it. Also Lib Dems won't agree to tackling deficit immediately. He'll equalise constituency populations. Whoopy do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13869 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Because when I think of The Tories, I think of a stable government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13869 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Also, true to my word; bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 He's seeking collaboration with the Lib Dems with them as lap dogs. Sad stuff. tbf Renton, given the same position Brown would be doing exactly the same. They're all in it for themselves. Out of the three I think Clegg is trying to see it from the country's perspective more than the other two. Labour and Liberal are natural bed fellows though. That made me want to puke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Dave has blown it. His problem is that the rabid right wing in the Tory party will never agree to PR or half the stuff in the LD manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44886 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Not being accustomed to this hung parliament business, is it acceptable for Cameron to he talking like he's the daddy now. Is this standard practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30614 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Out of the three I think Clegg is trying to see it from the country's perspective more than the other two. What gives you that impression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I never imagined ever being so interested in Mandy's next move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Not being accustomed to this hung parliament business, is it acceptable for Cameron to he talking like he's the daddy now. Is this standard practice? Apparently so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Cameron is a truly wretched character, up there with Llambias imo, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Not being accustomed to this hung parliament business, is it acceptable for Cameron to he talking like he's the daddy now. Is this standard practice? I honestly thought the incumbent PM gets the first chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44886 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I never imagined ever being so interested in Mandy's next move. Not even when he was hanging out the back of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Out of the three I think Clegg is trying to see it from the country's perspective more than the other two. What gives you that impression? Because I think Clegg is coming at it with the economy in mind. The other two are just hell bent on staying / getting inside 10 Downing Street. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 http://blogs.ft.com/undercover/2010/05/why...-cent-of-votes/ It might seem unfair that the Liberal Democrats have received 23 per cent of the votes but just 8 per cent of the seats, while the Labour party has 29 per cent of the votes but five times as many seats. But it’s naive to think that 8 per cent of the seats translates to 8 per cent of the influence. For example, imagine a 100-seat parliament with seats distributed Blue: 40, Red: 30, Yellow: 25 and Green: 5. Imagine which combinations of parties could win a majority and you realise the three big parties might just as well have been given one vote each, with no votes for Green, which is never the decisive partner that makes or breaks a coalition. There are two commonly used ways of translating voting blocks into voting power, the Shapley-Shubik method and the Banzhaf-Penrose method. (Want them explaining? Wait for my column.) But suffice to say that assuming 307 Tory MPs, 261 Labour MPs and 55 Lib Dem MPs, both methods conclude that Labour and the Liberal Democrats actually have the same voting power. With 23 per cent of the votes, the Liberal Democrats actually have 23-24 per cent of the voting power. The Conservatives have 37-38 per cent of the voting power, just fractionally above their share of the popular vote. (Evidently, these blank-slate methods omit some important considerations, such as ideology.) If you want to do these calcluations yourself, go to Professor Dennis Leech’s website and click on ipdirect or ssdirect. “Quota” is 326 and the allocation of seats currently looks something like. 1 1 1 3 3 6 8 55 261 306 Paste it in and tweak to your taste. Last night, when everyone was saying “this looks like a hung parliament and a bad night for the Liberal Democrats”, that statement struck me as absurd. The mathematics back me up. http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~ecaae/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 Camerons speech.... Quite simply brilliant. He is the man, the stability the change. Simply brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Camerons speech.... Quite simply brilliant. He is the man, the stability the change. Simply brilliant. It's amazing two people of the same species can disagree so much. It was awful man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42454 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Camerons speech.... Quite simply brilliant. He is the man, the stability the change. Simply brilliant. It's amazing two people of the same species can disagree so much. It was awful man. See the Neanderthal thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Where's Meenzer? How does he feel about becoming a tory rent boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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