General Election 2010

[ChezGiven 0]

 

Any idea what income you'd have to have to be in group 6 or lower?

 

Income decile 6 of 10 that goes up to 100k? 60k.

[Renton 21434]

 

Any idea what income you'd have to have to be in group 6 or lower?

 

Income decile 6 of 10 that goes up to 100k? 60k.

 

I'd assumed it was cumulative proportion of the population, like in the Lorenz curve.

[Happy Face 29]

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[ChezGiven 0]

 

Any idea what income you'd have to have to be in group 6 or lower?

 

Income decile 6 of 10 that goes up to 100k? 60k.

 

I'd assumed it was cumulative proportion of the population, like in the Lorenz curve.

I dont think so, as its a decile grouping up to 100k. It makes sense that way too, tax redistributions will still benefit people on 50, 60k in the UK because everyone benefits from larger tax allowances on the first part of income. The net effects takes account of all changes.

[Renton 21434]

 

Any idea what income you'd have to have to be in group 6 or lower?

 

Income decile 6 of 10 that goes up to 100k? 60k.

 

I'd assumed it was cumulative proportion of the population, like in the Lorenz curve.

I dont think so, as its a decile grouping up to 100k. It makes sense that way too, tax redistributions will still benefit people on 50, 60k in the UK because everyone benefits from larger tax allowances on the first part of income. The net effects takes account of all changes.

 

Aye, the over 100k bar shows that's right too.

[ChezGiven 0]

Why I Want The Tories To Win:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2...ervyn-King.html

 

According to David Hale, a US economist, the governor of the BOE thinks whoever wins will be out for a generation due to the fiscal austerity of the next parliament.

 

Ha ha.

[Park Life 71]

There was speculation yesterday that The Sun had offered Mrs Duffy £50,000, or even £75,000 for her story. It is more probable that The Sun's offer was in the range of £25,000 to £30,000 – which must still have sounded like riches to a pensioner who has worked all her life on relatively modest wages. But Mrs Duffy turned it down. Reputedly, The Sun, which has been campaigning aggressively since last October for a Conservative victory, wanted her to attack Gordon Brown in unrestrained language and declare her support for David Cameron but, after a lifetime's allegiance to the Labour Party, she would not do it.

 

Another rumour is that Andy Coulson, the former News of the World editor who is David Cameron's link with the Murdoch empire, contacted Rebekah Brooks, chief executive of Murdoch's company, News International, to say that it would not help the Tory cause if The Sun pushed its suit too hard. Coulson's reasoning was that Labour was in such a mess after Gordon Brown's gaffe that it would pay to leave them dangling in the wind rather than give them a pretext for claiming that Mrs Duffy was party to a Tory-orchestrated media conspiracy.

 

Even without the involvement of The Sun, the presence of a man from Bell Pottinger set off conspiracy theories. The agency was founded in 1987 by Tim Bell, Margaret Thatcher's advertising guru, who advised her through the victorious 1979 election campaign. The chairman of Bell Pottinger Public Affairs, Peter Bingle, is a Tory activist who wrote a jubilant blog yesterday, jokily suggesting: "There is a strong case for giving Gillian Duffy a peerage. She has revealed the true Gordon Brown."

 

 

She turned down the money.

Nice to hear. Makes Brown seem even more of a prick for having a pop at her like.

 

Hung like a Parliament.

[Gemmill 44556]

Why I Want The Tories To Win:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2...ervyn-King.html

 

According to David Hale, a US economist, the governor of the BOE thinks whoever wins will be out for a generation due to the fiscal austerity of the next parliament.

 

Ha ha.

 

Aye that'll be the saving grace if rodent boy does end up winning.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

There is no reason why we couldnt just have the free trade bit.

 

Which party was it that signed up to the Maastricht Treaty?

 

 

It was a serious point not a party point scoring jobby

 

Well being serious then. What do you think the EU will say if we go to them and ask to pull out of everything except the free trade market? And also what do you think it would do for British business? I wouldn't end well.

 

Apparently the EU has free trade agreements with over 50 countries that are not part of the EU.

 

UKIP says on this.......

 

UKIP would set up a Commonwealth Free Trade Area (CFTA). Given the extraordinary economic power of the Commonwealth, such a bloc would be a global economic sensation. It could also interlock with other trade blocs to enhance global trade and prosperity. UKIP would retain friendly and profitable trade relationships with EU countries after withdrawal. UKIP would sign a UK-EU Free Trade deal, similar to the free trade deals the EU has with over 50 other non-EU countries but as its largest trading partner.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

[Park Life 71]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

Norway gets to protect its fishing stocks as well.

[Renton 21434]

There is no reason why we couldnt just have the free trade bit.

 

Which party was it that signed up to the Maastricht Treaty?

 

 

It was a serious point not a party point scoring jobby

 

Well being serious then. What do you think the EU will say if we go to them and ask to pull out of everything except the free trade market? And also what do you think it would do for British business? I wouldn't end well.

 

Apparently the EU has free trade agreements with over 50 countries that are not part of the EU.

 

UKIP says on this.......

 

UKIP would set up a Commonwealth Free Trade Area (CFTA). Given the extraordinary economic power of the Commonwealth, such a bloc would be a global economic sensation. It could also interlock with other trade blocs to enhance global trade and prosperity. UKIP would retain friendly and profitable trade relationships with EU countries after withdrawal. UKIP would sign a UK-EU Free Trade deal, similar to the free trade deals the EU has with over 50 other non-EU countries but as its largest trading partner.

 

Have they asked the other Commonwealth countries about this? Why on Earth would we want to increase trade with a heterogenous mix of countries that are thousands of miles away based purely on historical reasons. And at the same time cut us off from our Geographical neighbours - the UK-EU Free Trade deal is no replacement for the benefits we get as part of the single market. Once again, why don't you think the tories embrace this if it were remotely feasible - don't you agree it's a vote winner?

 

Trusting UKIP to make policies on Europe is a bit like asking a paedophile to reform child protection laws.

[Renton 21434]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

Norway gets to protect its fishing stocks as well.

 

I thought you lived in Germany? Do you want free movement rights within Europe or not?

[Park Life 71]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

Norway gets to protect its fishing stocks as well.

 

I thought you lived in Germany? Do you want free movement rights within Europe or not?

 

Mate I can live where I like...Rules don't matter to me.

[ewerk 30393]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

If you think that the EU countries would let us leave without a fuss then you're wrong imo.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

There is no reason why we couldnt just have the free trade bit.

 

Which party was it that signed up to the Maastricht Treaty?

 

 

It was a serious point not a party point scoring jobby

 

Well being serious then. What do you think the EU will say if we go to them and ask to pull out of everything except the free trade market? And also what do you think it would do for British business? I wouldn't end well.

 

Apparently the EU has free trade agreements with over 50 countries that are not part of the EU.

 

UKIP says on this.......

 

UKIP would set up a Commonwealth Free Trade Area (CFTA). Given the extraordinary economic power of the Commonwealth, such a bloc would be a global economic sensation. It could also interlock with other trade blocs to enhance global trade and prosperity. UKIP would retain friendly and profitable trade relationships with EU countries after withdrawal. UKIP would sign a UK-EU Free Trade deal, similar to the free trade deals the EU has with over 50 other non-EU countries but as its largest trading partner.

 

Have they asked the other Commonwealth countries about this? Why on Earth would we want to increase trade with a heterogenous mix of countries that are thousands of miles away based purely on historical reasons. And at the same time cut us off from our Geographical neighbours - the UK-EU Free Trade deal is no replacement for the benefits we get as part of the single market. Once again, why don't you think the tories embrace this if it were remotely feasible - don't you agree it's a vote winner?

 

Trusting UKIP to make policies on Europe is a bit like asking a paedophile to reform child protection laws.

 

 

Why not try thinking for yourself rather than simply repeating years of what you've heard?

 

Can you explain this sentence?

 

the UK-EU Free Trade deal is no replacement for the benefits we get as part of the single market.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

Norway gets to protect its fishing stocks as well.

 

I thought you lived in Germany? Do you want free movement rights within Europe or not?

 

 

Being outside the "political" europe does not restrict free movement. You really should read up on this subject.....If you are interested.

[Park Life 71]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

Norway gets to protect its fishing stocks as well.

 

I thought you lived in Germany? Do you want free movement rights within Europe or not?

 

 

Being outside the "political" europe does not restrict free movement. You really should read up on this subject.....If you are interested.

 

He really has come up short, beginning to wonder if Renton has a bit of Greek in him.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

If you think that the EU countries would let us leave without a fuss then you're wrong imo.

 

 

I dont know the answer to that, however I would have thought that was up to us not them (at the moment).

[Park Life 71]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

If you think that the EU countries would let us leave without a fuss then you're wrong imo.

 

Tbh the Germans are getting a bit sick of the Eu as well.

[spongebob toonpants 3958]

Interesting that the bloke with the bizzarre backing of Ashley also is the one backing Cameron. The rich must know best and be obeyed eh CT?

 

 

Well the majority of the country backed the tories for 3 long terms, even after the miners strike. Bastard this democracy lark for the dyed in the wool socialists.

 

 

People are idiots

[Park Life 71]

Tbh if a British Govt said they wanted out and renaged on the Lisboa Treaty there is very little the Eu could do about it: Germany no army, Frogs too lazy the rest bancrupt.

[ChezGiven 0]

Interesting that the bloke with the bizzarre backing of Ashley also is the one backing Cameron. The rich must know best and be obeyed eh CT?

 

 

Well the majority of the country backed the tories for 3 long terms, even after the miners strike. Bastard this democracy lark for the dyed in the wool socialists.

 

 

People are idiots

 

Couldnt agree more.

[ewerk 30393]

From the Telegraph.....

 

 

There is no question that Britain could remain in the market but not the EU’s political structures: several other countries are doing precisely this. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which guarantees its participation in the so called “Four Freedoms” of the single market (free movement of goods, services, people and capital). Switzerland has an even better deal, regulating its relations with the EU through a series of sector-specific bilateral accords. Closer to home, the Channel Islands participate in the common market without having joined the EU. Even Tony Blair, in an unguarded moment, admitted that Britain could take this option.

 

If you think that the EU countries would let us leave without a fuss then you're wrong imo.

 

Tbh the Germans are getting a bit sick of the Eu as well.

 

I'd have no problems with downsizing the EU to the sort of size it was during the EEC days.

[Park Life 71]

Interesting that the bloke with the bizzarre backing of Ashley also is the one backing Cameron. The rich must know best and be obeyed eh CT?

 

 

Well the majority of the country backed the tories for 3 long terms, even after the miners strike. Bastard this democracy lark for the dyed in the wool socialists.

 

 

People are idiots

 

Couldnt agree more.

 

 

Four legs good two legs bad.