Winston Churchill

[snakehips 0]

Half American.

 

Discuss.

 

[Guest alex]

RIP

[Tom 14021]

Happy Birthday

[Meenzer 15793]

Specky cunt

[Tooj 17]

Challenge Churchill.

[Christmas Tree 4913]

Half American.

 

Discuss.

 

 

 

which half?

[Guest alex]

Challenge Churchill.

Oh yes.

[Tooj 17]

[snakehips 0]

Whilst accepting the above comments as useful, constructive and enlightening contributions to the discussion (oh yes), I was particularly hoping Stevie would post, given that he has a pic of 'Winnie' as part of his signature, not to mention his love of our colonial cousins across the pond.

[Park Life 71]

The force was strong in him.

[Happy Face 29]

Smelled a bit apparrently.

 

Still got Jenkins' biography of him in the house to get started on, which I bought years ago. Supposed to be definitive.

 

I was dead keen too, until Mark in Peep Show started getting excited over a girl who was reading it in a cafe. He wanted to propose there and then iirc

[ChezGiven 0]

Some great stuff in Andrew Marr's first book on modern British history about Churchill.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4040]

Was a complete cunt who caused the general strike then wanted to punish the miners.

[Rob W 0]

Was a complete cunt who caused the general strike then wanted to punish the miners.

 

 

but saved the world in 1940-43....

 

he was never a saint

[Guest Barrack Road]

Half American.

 

Discuss.

 

 

 

which half?

The fat wank part.

 

However, he was half English and basically saved the world. Any yanks reading this who have "yayaaa we saved your butts" attitude, pipe down. If we hadn't have fought him alone (for a long time) as well and stood up to them, everyone would be speaking kraut now, we'd all look like Jurgen Klinsmann and Isegrim and would be having shits in funny toilets.

 

The greatest man in the history of this country, he is one of a few men who genuinely could claim that title. Fuck his trade union tiffs, minor in the grand scheme of things, and only a power to the people socialist divvy like Kevin Carr's Gloves would think of that before anything. Where's me tenner by the way Gloves?

 

"WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER", and we wouldn't we'd fight to the death like the Russians did, and because of our inherent never say die attitude we would have prevailed, and we will prevail but we needed Churchill then. Imagine if it had've been John Major or Brown in the circumstances. "Invade Poland Adolf we have 6 Vickers sites in the UK if you need new tanks."

Edited March 7, 2010 by Barrack Road

[Rob W 0]

A fairly unbiased historian once said

 

"Britain, the USA and Russia all won the war - the British brought time and example, the Americans industrial might and organisation. the Russians space and manpower"

 

Seems fair enough to me

 

but when you think it took all three of them to put the jormans back in their box...........................

[Guest Barrack Road]

A fairly unbiased historian once said

 

"Britain, the USA and Russia all won the war - the British brought time and example, the Americans industrial might and organisation. the Russians space and manpower"

 

Seems fair enough to me

 

but when you think it took all three of them to put the jormans back in their box...........................

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war.

[Park Life 71]

A fairly unbiased historian once said

 

"Britain, the USA and Russia all won the war - the British brought time and example, the Americans industrial might and organisation. the Russians space and manpower"

 

Seems fair enough to me

 

but when you think it took all three of them to put the jormans back in their box...........................

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war.

 

Agreed us and the Russians took the brunt of it, while American war profiteering was rampant. The American people didn't even want to come into the war which says all you need to know about their commitment.

[AgentAxeman 194]

I've just read a book of his quotes. very intelligent man by all accounts and extremely funny

[Renton 22258]

A fairly unbiased historian once said

 

"Britain, the USA and Russia all won the war - the British brought time and example, the Americans industrial might and organisation. the Russians space and manpower"

 

Seems fair enough to me

 

but when you think it took all three of them to put the jormans back in their box...........................

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war.

 

Agreed us and the Russians took the brunt of it, while American war profiteering was rampant. The American people didn't even want to come into the war which says all you need to know about their commitment.

 

Some Americans didn't.

 

Have you two forgot the Americans had to deal with the Japanese ffs? They weren't a distant third by any margin, and we are endebted to them as much as the French are to us.

[Park Life 71]

A fairly unbiased historian once said

 

"Britain, the USA and Russia all won the war - the British brought time and example, the Americans industrial might and organisation. the Russians space and manpower"

 

Seems fair enough to me

 

but when you think it took all three of them to put the jormans back in their box...........................

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war.

 

Agreed us and the Russians took the brunt of it, while American war profiteering was rampant. The American people didn't even want to come into the war which says all you need to know about their commitment.

 

Some Americans didn't.

 

Have you two forgot the Americans had to deal with the Japanese ffs? They weren't a distant third by any margin, and we are endebted to them as much as the French are to us.

 

It is a FACT that a vast majority of the american people had no interest of coming into the war. Having just come out of depression the American people although sympathetic to our plight didn't want to enter the war, in repsonse Roosevelt passed this unique legislation:

 

January 6, 1941 *:

 

"Washington, the U.S. Congress President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to pass what would be called the Lend-Lease Act Lend-Lease Act

 

provision of American materiel to beleaguered Allies in WWII. [Am. Hist.: Van Doren, 480]

 

See : Aid, Governmental . That law would allow the President to lend or lease [rent] guns, tanks, planes, and ships to any nation that the President thought needed help. That country, every American knew, was Great Britain."

Edited March 7, 2010 by Park Life

[brummiemag1 0]

Top bloke and a one in a million as far as I'm concerned. Exactly the sort of character and personality the country needed during the early years of the war to lift morale.

 

Was also a great public speaker, came out with some classic quotes over the years, by all accounts drank from the moment he woke up until last thing at night (25 units a day apparently), smoked like a chimney and still lived until 90.

 

I read that he took part in last ever cavalry charge by the british army in the 1890's and that he wanted to be in the first wave of allied landings on D Day.

 

A man of action as well as words and a man of substance rather than image. We will never see someone like him again

[Rob W 0]

come on Parky - the US had many more men thatn the Brits in yurop at the end AND were fighting the Japs as well (and so were we - but on a lesser scale)

 

The Russians were only fighting th eGermans

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4040]

Half American.

 

Discuss.

 

 

 

which half?

The fat wank part.

 

However, he was half English and basically saved the world. Any yanks reading this who have "yayaaa we saved your butts" attitude, pipe down. If we hadn't have fought him alone (for a long time) as well and stood up to them, everyone would be speaking kraut now, we'd all look like Jurgen Klinsmann and Isegrim and would be having shits in funny toilets.

 

The greatest man in the history of this country, he is one of a few men who genuinely could claim that title. Fuck his trade union tiffs, minor in the grand scheme of things, and only a power to the people socialist divvy like Kevin Carr's Gloves would think of that before anything. Where's me tenner by the way Gloves?

 

"WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER", and we wouldn't we'd fight to the death like the Russians did, and because of our inherent never say die attitude we would have prevailed, and we will prevail but we needed Churchill then. Imagine if it had've been John Major or Brown in the circumstances. "Invade Poland Adolf we have 6 Vickers sites in the UK if you need new tanks."

 

No tenner you got banned before I could destroy your pathetic argument. Trade union tiffs which cost the lives of miners.

[Cid_MCDP 0]

A fairly unbiased historian once said

 

"Britain, the USA and Russia all won the war - the British brought time and example, the Americans industrial might and organisation. the Russians space and manpower"

 

Seems fair enough to me

 

but when you think it took all three of them to put the jormans back in their box...........................

True but the yanks are a very, very distant third in all of that. So far distant that you'd need a train to reach where they are. Russia and Britain won the war.

 

Agreed us and the Russians took the brunt of it, while American war profiteering was rampant. The American people didn't even want to come into the war which says all you need to know about their commitment.

 

Some Americans didn't.

 

Have you two forgot the Americans had to deal with the Japanese ffs? They weren't a distant third by any margin, and we are endebted to them as much as the French are to us.

 

It is a FACT that a vast majority of the american people had no interest of coming into the war. Having just come out of depression the American people although sympathetic to our plight didn't want to enter the war, in repsonse Roosevelt passed this unique legislation:

 

January 6, 1941 *:

 

"Washington, the U.S. Congress President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to pass what would be called the Lend-Lease Act Lend-Lease Act

 

provision of American materiel to beleaguered Allies in WWII. [Am. Hist.: Van Doren, 480]

 

See : Aid, Governmental . That law would allow the President to lend or lease [rent] guns, tanks, planes, and ships to any nation that the President thought needed help. That country, every American knew, was Great Britain."

 

Eventually, at some point you're going to arrive at the conclusion that the American Government rarely does what the American people would like it to do.