Michael Foot

[Renton 21625]

A great man of principles imo, will be sadly missed.

 

Edit: mind 96 is a good age, its not true the good always die young.

Edited March 3, 2010 by Renton

[Christmas Tree 4725]

Thought he'd gone a long time ago. Rip

[Meenzer 15526]

Hijacked within the first page, I reckon.

 

RIP.

[Guest alex]

RIP. I must confess I assumed he'd already passed away.

[Sonatine 11377]

Along with Dexys Midnight Runners in their Searching for the Young Soul Rebel years, he made the donkey jacket look good.

 

RIP.

[Park Life 71]

A great man of principles imo, will be sadly missed.

[TheMoog 0]

Tongue-biting-tastic!

[AgentAxeman 178]

RIP

[NJS 4386]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

[Toonpack 9405]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

[LeazesMag 0]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

spot on.

 

RIP

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

[Toonpack 9405]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

 

Mid/late 1930's and that Austrian bloke with bad BO

[PaddockLad 17261]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

Edited March 3, 2010 by PaddockLad

[Monkeys Fist 42448]

RIP.

I put Foot in the same bracket as Benn- almost too principled and intelligent for politics.

As mentioned above , I'd love to know Cameron's principles ( other than his Fix Broken Britain schtick).

Jesus, the thought of Cameron in charge of Britain makes me shudder with revulsion.

[Monkeys Fist 42448]

Hijacked within the first page, I reckon.

 

RIP.

Bingo!

[Toonpack 9405]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

 

Mid 30's outspoken against re-armament, war breaks out, oooh that Hitler was a cunt all along and me gaffer's just become head of aircraft production !!

 

The consumate politician, and that's not a good thing

 

And as for CND, thought they were stupid cunts at the time, nothing since has changed my mind. Once the genie's out the bottle you can't get it back in. At the time the USSR would have walked all over western europe given a sniff of a chance, nuclear weapons stopped that. That said Foot's politics probably would have got him the governer-ship of the USSRUK

[Renton 21625]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

 

Mid 30's outspoken against re-armament, war breaks out, oooh that Hitler was a cunt all along and me gaffer's just become head of aircraft production !!

 

The consumate politician, and that's not a good thing

 

And as for CND, thought they were stupid cunts at the time, nothing since has changed my mind. Once the genie's out the bottle you can't get it back in. At the time the USSR would have walked all over western europe given a sniff of a chance, nuclear weapons stopped that. That said Foot's politics probably would have got him the governer-ship of the USSRUK

 

Doubt the American's would have allowed that to be honest. In fact in the grand scheme of things, if the UK had underwent unilateral disarmanent it might have speeded up the cold war a bit and saved us a few quid. I'd rather not have taken the chance like and support a continued deterrent.

[Toonpack 9405]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

 

Mid 30's outspoken against re-armament, war breaks out, oooh that Hitler was a cunt all along and me gaffer's just become head of aircraft production !!

 

The consumate politician, and that's not a good thing

 

And as for CND, thought they were stupid cunts at the time, nothing since has changed my mind. Once the genie's out the bottle you can't get it back in. At the time the USSR would have walked all over western europe given a sniff of a chance, nuclear weapons stopped that. That said Foot's politics probably would have got him the governer-ship of the USSRUK

 

Doubt the American's would have allowed that to be honest. In fact in the grand scheme of things, if the UK had underwent unilateral disarmanent it might have speeded up the cold war a bit and saved us a few quid. I'd rather not have taken the chance like and support a continued deterrent.

 

Hard to say, they could have gone all isolationist, they had polaris so didn't really need Europe as a launch platform, although giving up the foothold would have been strategically disasterous I reckon. All supposition though, if you've got your own deterrent you're not second guessing anyone's position.

[@yourservice 67]

RIP Foot

[Renton 21625]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

 

Mid 30's outspoken against re-armament, war breaks out, oooh that Hitler was a cunt all along and me gaffer's just become head of aircraft production !!

 

The consumate politician, and that's not a good thing

 

And as for CND, thought they were stupid cunts at the time, nothing since has changed my mind. Once the genie's out the bottle you can't get it back in. At the time the USSR would have walked all over western europe given a sniff of a chance, nuclear weapons stopped that. That said Foot's politics probably would have got him the governer-ship of the USSRUK

 

Doubt the American's would have allowed that to be honest. In fact in the grand scheme of things, if the UK had underwent unilateral disarmanent it might have speeded up the cold war a bit and saved us a few quid. I'd rather not have taken the chance like and support a continued deterrent.

 

Hard to say, they could have gone all isolationist, they had polaris so didn't really need Europe as a launch platform, although giving up the foothold would have been strategically disasterous I reckon. All supposition though, if you've got your own deterrent you're not second guessing anyone's position.

 

There's always been a question over how independent our deterent really is, maybe we should have built our own (which we had the capability to) rather than buy from the US. But howay man, as members of NATO etc, no way in a million years would the Americans have let Russia over run Western Europe. That's not a matter of supposition.

[PaddockLad 17261]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

 

Mid 30's outspoken against re-armament, war breaks out, oooh that Hitler was a cunt all along and me gaffer's just become head of aircraft production !!

 

The consumate politician, and that's not a good thing

 

And as for CND, thought they were stupid cunts at the time, nothing since has changed my mind. Once the genie's out the bottle you can't get it back in. At the time the USSR would have walked all over western europe given a sniff of a chance, nuclear weapons stopped that. That said Foot's politics probably would have got him the governer-ship of the USSRUK

 

Thats said about him, but as far as I'm aware what you could say about all socialists in the thirties is that their general policy was for all of Europe to disarm, which is a bit different to appeasement.

 

Can't really find much evidence that pinpoints him specifically as a Nazi appeaser, as opposed to Lord Rothermere over at the Daily Mail, the treacherous fucker, who genuinely did support apeasement as it would make things easier for his friend Hitler, to whom he was writing letters in 1939 congratulating him on his annexeation of Sudenteland.

 

Foot may well have been misguided, yes, but never a traitor...and all journalists are bought and paid for, it goes with the territory...if Cameron does get in in a few weeks time you'll see this in full effect when one of Murdoch's finest becomes media advisor to H.M's Government of Great Britain and Northern Ireland....fuck me that thoughts really depressed me...

[LeazesMag 0]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

 

Mid 30's outspoken against re-armament, war breaks out, oooh that Hitler was a cunt all along and me gaffer's just become head of aircraft production !!

 

The consumate politician, and that's not a good thing

 

And as for CND, thought they were stupid cunts at the time, nothing since has changed my mind. Once the genie's out the bottle you can't get it back in. At the time the USSR would have walked all over western europe given a sniff of a chance, nuclear weapons stopped that. That said Foot's politics probably would have got him the governer-ship of the USSRUK

 

far too many anti-west on here to accept the truth of that.

[Monkeys Fist 42448]

Just because someone doesn't agree with your right-wing reactionary bollocks doesn't make them Anti-West.

[Toonpack 9405]

RIP - wrong leader at the wrong time but I still think he was a great man.

 

As appeasers and loony lefties go, I suppose he was

 

Appeaser?

I think not:

On the recommendation of Aneurin Bevan, Foot was soon hired by Lord Beaverbrook to work as a writer on his Evening Standard. (Bevan is supposed to have told Beaverbrook on the phone: "I've got a young bloody knight-errant here. They sacked his boss, so he resigned. Have a look at him.") At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected due to his chronic asthma. In 1940, under the pen-name "Cato" he and two other Beaverbrook journalists (Frank Owen, editor of the Standard, and Peter Howard of the Daily Express) published Guilty Men, a Left Book Club book attacking the appeasement policy of the Chamberlain government that became a run-away best-seller. Beaverbrook made Foot editor of the Evening Standard in 1942 at the age of 28. During the war Foot made a speech that was later featured during The World at War TV series of the early 1970s. Foot was speaking in defence of the Daily Mirror, which had criticised the conduct of the war by the Churchill Government. He mocked the notion that the Government would make no more territorial demands of other newspapers if they allowed the Mirror to be censored. Foot left the Standard in 1945 to join the Daily Herald as a columnist. The Daily Herald was jointly owned by the TUC and Odhams Press, and was effectively an official Labour Party paper. He rejoined Tribune as editor from 1948 to 1952, and was again the paper's editor from 1955 to 1960. Throughout his political career he railed against the increasing corporate domination of the press, entertaining a special loathing for Rupert Murdoch.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot

 

He was also a founder member of CND, if thats what Toonpack is on about. He wanted a world without nuclear weapons, a bit naiive perhaps, but he had principles and was prepared to stick to them for better or worse. Can anybody tell me what David Cameron's principles are?....

 

Mid 30's outspoken against re-armament, war breaks out, oooh that Hitler was a cunt all along and me gaffer's just become head of aircraft production !!

 

The consumate politician, and that's not a good thing

 

And as for CND, thought they were stupid cunts at the time, nothing since has changed my mind. Once the genie's out the bottle you can't get it back in. At the time the USSR would have walked all over western europe given a sniff of a chance, nuclear weapons stopped that. That said Foot's politics probably would have got him the governer-ship of the USSRUK

 

Doubt the American's would have allowed that to be honest. In fact in the grand scheme of things, if the UK had underwent unilateral disarmanent it might have speeded up the cold war a bit and saved us a few quid. I'd rather not have taken the chance like and support a continued deterrent.

 

Hard to say, they could have gone all isolationist, they had polaris so didn't really need Europe as a launch platform, although giving up the foothold would have been strategically disasterous I reckon. All supposition though, if you've got your own deterrent you're not second guessing anyone's position.

 

There's always been a question over how independent our deterent really is, maybe we should have built our own (which we had the capability to) rather than buy from the US. But howay man, as members of NATO etc, no way in a million years would the Americans have let Russia over run Western Europe. That's not a matter of supposition.

 

If Western Europe (as in us mainly) had disarmed, I think the USA's commitment to Nato could have been sorely tested. Not so long before they let Hitler do it.