Llambias - Fans that criticise are "not reasonable"

[Happy Face 29]

Of course, being a neutral, he hasn't experienced the day to day fuckwittery of the pair of them. There's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that, at any point, he'll turn us into a successful, well-run football club.

 

 

Really depends on your definition of those statements. Most fans have very differing expectations of what would constitute success.

 

Which fans define it as relegation?

 

The question was "turn us"......future tense and all that.

 

To be more accurate "there's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that he'll turn us"

 

[ewerk 30377]

So he hasn't fucked up for a few months? The fact that this is seen as a positive speaks volumes for his ownership.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

Of course, being a neutral, he hasn't experienced the day to day fuckwittery of the pair of them. There's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that, at any point, he'll turn us into a successful, well-run football club.

 

 

Really depends on your definition of those statements. Most fans have very differing expectations of what would constitute success.

 

Which fans define it as relegation?

 

The question was "turn us"......future tense and all that.

 

To be more accurate "there's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that he'll turn us"

 

 

 

Back to George....

 

 

Football, like heat, can generate mirages. How else, with March upon us, can we contextualise a club which, until Portsmouth nabbed their title, was widely recognised as the most gloriously demented in England, but which now resembles the very model of stability? How else to explain the otherwise inexplicable – that Mike Ashley no longer appears the battiest of owners.

 

Top of the Coca-Cola Championship, solid and capable, with a manager who bats away excess and hyperbole; this is a most unusual Newcastle United. In terms of the North East – which, admittedly, does not offer a rich history of sound governance - they now look like bastions of sturdiness and probably more certain than either Sunderland or Middlesbrough of the division they will be playing in next season.

 

Recent results – notably their 2-1 victory at Watford on Saturday – have hardened the longstanding impression that Newcastle are destined for promotion. They remain resolute in defence, powerful in midfield, January's signings brought them a dash of pace and unpredictability and, in Andy Carrol, they possess a young and improving striker who, on his day, veers towards the unplayable.

 

Those outside the club will see a team with vigour and purpose. They view a points tally which, at a similar stage of their respective campaigns, reflects well with that amassed by Kevin Keegan’s team in 1992-93, when the world felt young and Tyneside was abuzz with optimism. And yet those who follow Newcastle most avidly would admit that theirs is not a side surfing a wave of momentum.

 

Their place at the top of the table is fully deserved, Hughton and his players warrant huge credit for the manner in which they have responded to relegation, but behind the mirage, uncertainty remains a dominant feature of the Geordie landscape. For now, satisfaction should be grasped from a job executed proficiently, but the future of the club is still opaque.

 

A question has been posed in recent weeks. Surely, after the long, grinding recovery since last spring, with Newcastle likely to return to the Barclays Premier League, is it not time for fans to let bygones be bygones in relation to Ashley? Is it not time for a cessation of the derogatory chants which are aimed at him in every match, home and away. Is it not time to embrace the new reality?

 

The subject is an exercise in irrelevance. There is no onus on fans to do anything other than to support their team however they see fit, which they have done in far greater numbers (with far less reason) and with deeper reserves of loyalty than anybody can have anticipated this season. Providing that their behaviour is legal – which it has been – they have no moral obligation to do anything.

 

All the responsibility lies with Ashley and his employees. Since the ham-fisted debacle of the stadium naming rights issue – in spite of the threats, @sportsdirect.com is yet to feature in any marketing at St James’ – there have been no public gaffes, no further indiscretions. In fact, things have been progressing relatively smoothly, although there is a caveat to that.

 

Newcastle did not become the next Leeds United. Albeit with a small staff, Hughton has been allowed to manage his players, without any sign of interference. At the end of the transfer window, none of their marquee names had been sold and Hughton’s squad was stronger than 31 days previously. But these things are not the stuff of garlands and triumph; it is what any sensible board should be doing.

 

Granted, Ashley has continued to fund the running of the club (at an alleged cost of £500,000-per-week, according to a “source” close to the sportswear retailer), but history should not be re-written. It was his “catastrophic” and “terrible decisions” (his words), which resulted in Newcastle’s financial implosion following their relegation and he is still picking up the shards.

 

Newcastle’s league status is not the fault of their fans. It was not their muddled policies that saw managers hoarded, discarded and, in the case of Keegan and Alan Shearer, betrayed. It was not them who made profits in the transfer market when a small squad cried out for strengthening, who twice failed to sell the club, who attracted public ridicule through employment tribunals.

 

We used to yearn for Ashley to explain himself, to talk about his reasons for buying Newcastle, to engage with a populace glad to see the back of an earlier, tainted regime. Over the last few months, we have come to appreciate the benefits of silence. Like the team, like Hughton, the club’s hierarchy have kept their heads down. In so doing, they have taken care not to aim ordinance at their own feet.

 

So, well done for that, but keep calm and carry on. Nothing to see here. Rumours persist in City circles that Ashley is desperate to conclude his involvement in football as soon as possible but, whatever his designs, planning should be well underway for what happens next. If he is unable (or even unwilling) to sell, he should be looking to protect what remains of his investment.

 

For all his catalogue of blunders, Ashley always represented an opportunity for Newcastle. He is rich (not Abramovic rich, but rich nonetheless) and his Sports Direct connections should provide the club with a natural, harmonious, mutually-beneficial relationship. Even if it is only a short-term arrangement until a more viable custodian can be found, that opportunity has not dissipated.

 

Bring in some serious-minded people, with an understanding of football and, preferably, an empathy with the region, to run the club on his behalf, no matter if they have to do so on a limited budget. Engage fans; open a meaningful, non-patronising dialogue with the Newcastle United Supporters Club and do what you can to get them on board. Be honest with people; they can take hard truths. What is there to lose?

 

Whether on the pitch or in the stands, there has been precious little arrogance from Newcastle this season. Players and their followers understand fully that this is not a club’s glorious resurrection, but the righting of a wrong, achieved through unity and huge effort. Belatedly, Ashley and Co have played a role. He should not expect people to cheer him for it.

[Happy Face 29]

Of course, being a neutral, he hasn't experienced the day to day fuckwittery of the pair of them. There's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that, at any point, he'll turn us into a successful, well-run football club.

 

 

Really depends on your definition of those statements. Most fans have very differing expectations of what would constitute success.

 

Which fans define it as relegation?

 

The question was "turn us"......future tense and all that.

 

To be more accurate "there's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that he'll turn us"

 

 

 

Back to George....

 

 

Football, like heat, can generate mirages. How else, with March upon us, can we contextualise a club which, until Portsmouth nabbed their title, was widely recognised as the most gloriously demented in England, but which now resembles the very model of stability? How else to explain the otherwise inexplicable – that Mike Ashley no longer appears the battiest of owners.

 

Top of the Coca-Cola Championship, solid and capable, with a manager who bats away excess and hyperbole; this is a most unusual Newcastle United. In terms of the North East – which, admittedly, does not offer a rich history of sound governance - they now look like bastions of sturdiness and probably more certain than either Sunderland or Middlesbrough of the division they will be playing in next season.

 

Recent results – notably their 2-1 victory at Watford on Saturday – have hardened the longstanding impression that Newcastle are destined for promotion. They remain resolute in defence, powerful in midfield, January's signings brought them a dash of pace and unpredictability and, in Andy Carrol, they possess a young and improving striker who, on his day, veers towards the unplayable.

 

Those outside the club will see a team with vigour and purpose. They view a points tally which, at a similar stage of their respective campaigns, reflects well with that amassed by Kevin Keegan’s team in 1992-93, when the world felt young and Tyneside was abuzz with optimism. And yet those who follow Newcastle most avidly would admit that theirs is not a side surfing a wave of momentum.

 

Their place at the top of the table is fully deserved, Hughton and his players warrant huge credit for the manner in which they have responded to relegation, but behind the mirage, uncertainty remains a dominant feature of the Geordie landscape. For now, satisfaction should be grasped from a job executed proficiently, but the future of the club is still opaque.

 

A question has been posed in recent weeks. Surely, after the long, grinding recovery since last spring, with Newcastle likely to return to the Barclays Premier League, is it not time for fans to let bygones be bygones in relation to Ashley? Is it not time for a cessation of the derogatory chants which are aimed at him in every match, home and away. Is it not time to embrace the new reality?

 

The subject is an exercise in irrelevance. There is no onus on fans to do anything other than to support their team however they see fit, which they have done in far greater numbers (with far less reason) and with deeper reserves of loyalty than anybody can have anticipated this season. Providing that their behaviour is legal – which it has been – they have no moral obligation to do anything.

 

All the responsibility lies with Ashley and his employees. Since the ham-fisted debacle of the stadium naming rights issue – in spite of the threats, @sportsdirect.com is yet to feature in any marketing at St James’ – there have been no public gaffes, no further indiscretions. In fact, things have been progressing relatively smoothly, although there is a caveat to that.

 

Newcastle did not become the next Leeds United. Albeit with a small staff, Hughton has been allowed to manage his players, without any sign of interference. At the end of the transfer window, none of their marquee names had been sold and Hughton’s squad was stronger than 31 days previously. But these things are not the stuff of garlands and triumph; it is what any sensible board should be doing.

 

Granted, Ashley has continued to fund the running of the club (at an alleged cost of £500,000-per-week, according to a “source” close to the sportswear retailer), but history should not be re-written. It was his “catastrophic” and “terrible decisions” (his words), which resulted in Newcastle’s financial implosion following their relegation and he is still picking up the shards.

 

Newcastle’s league status is not the fault of their fans. It was not their muddled policies that saw managers hoarded, discarded and, in the case of Keegan and Alan Shearer, betrayed. It was not them who made profits in the transfer market when a small squad cried out for strengthening, who twice failed to sell the club, who attracted public ridicule through employment tribunals.

 

We used to yearn for Ashley to explain himself, to talk about his reasons for buying Newcastle, to engage with a populace glad to see the back of an earlier, tainted regime. Over the last few months, we have come to appreciate the benefits of silence. Like the team, like Hughton, the club’s hierarchy have kept their heads down. In so doing, they have taken care not to aim ordinance at their own feet.

 

So, well done for that, but keep calm and carry on. Nothing to see here. Rumours persist in City circles that Ashley is desperate to conclude his involvement in football as soon as possible but, whatever his designs, planning should be well underway for what happens next. If he is unable (or even unwilling) to sell, he should be looking to protect what remains of his investment.

 

For all his catalogue of blunders, Ashley always represented an opportunity for Newcastle. He is rich (not Abramovic rich, but rich nonetheless) and his Sports Direct connections should provide the club with a natural, harmonious, mutually-beneficial relationship. Even if it is only a short-term arrangement until a more viable custodian can be found, that opportunity has not dissipated.

 

Bring in some serious-minded people, with an understanding of football and, preferably, an empathy with the region, to run the club on his behalf, no matter if they have to do so on a limited budget. Engage fans; open a meaningful, non-patronising dialogue with the Newcastle United Supporters Club and do what you can to get them on board. Be honest with people; they can take hard truths. What is there to lose?

 

Whether on the pitch or in the stands, there has been precious little arrogance from Newcastle this season. Players and their followers understand fully that this is not a club’s glorious resurrection, but the righting of a wrong, achieved through unity and huge effort. Belatedly, Ashley and Co have played a role. He should not expect people to cheer him for it.

 

I don't agree with Caulkin.

 

If he believes increasing the clubs debt by 137% since he arrived makes Ashley's approach the model of stability I don't know what planet he's on.

[Monkeys Fist 42134]

Of course, being a neutral, he hasn't experienced the day to day fuckwittery of the pair of them. There's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that, at any point, he'll turn us into a successful, well-run football club.

At the risk of a 'Leazes' told you so, we weren't too far away from that when the fuckwit took over.

 

 

You are smoking something, surely!

Fucking damn sight closer to it than we are now!

I'll keep smoking , you keep kidding yourself

[Monkeys Fist 42134]

Of course, being a neutral, he hasn't experienced the day to day fuckwittery of the pair of them. There's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that, at any point, he'll turn us into a successful, well-run football club.

 

 

Really depends on your definition of those statements. Most fans have very differing expectations of what would constitute success.

 

Which fans define it as relegation?

 

The question was "turn us"......future tense and all that.

 

To be more accurate "there's absolutely nothing in the years he's owned us to suggest that he'll turn us"

 

 

 

Back to George....

 

 

Football, like heat, can generate mirages. How else, with March upon us, can we contextualise a club which, until Portsmouth nabbed their title, was widely recognised as the most gloriously demented in England, but which now resembles the very model of stability? How else to explain the otherwise inexplicable – that Mike Ashley no longer appears the battiest of owners.

 

Top of the Coca-Cola Championship, solid and capable, with a manager who bats away excess and hyperbole; this is a most unusual Newcastle United. In terms of the North East – which, admittedly, does not offer a rich history of sound governance - they now look like bastions of sturdiness and probably more certain than either Sunderland or Middlesbrough of the division they will be playing in next season.

 

Recent results – notably their 2-1 victory at Watford on Saturday – have hardened the longstanding impression that Newcastle are destined for promotion. They remain resolute in defence, powerful in midfield, January's signings brought them a dash of pace and unpredictability and, in Andy Carrol, they possess a young and improving striker who, on his day, veers towards the unplayable.

 

Those outside the club will see a team with vigour and purpose. They view a points tally which, at a similar stage of their respective campaigns, reflects well with that amassed by Kevin Keegan’s team in 1992-93, when the world felt young and Tyneside was abuzz with optimism. And yet those who follow Newcastle most avidly would admit that theirs is not a side surfing a wave of momentum.

 

Their place at the top of the table is fully deserved, Hughton and his players warrant huge credit for the manner in which they have responded to relegation, but behind the mirage, uncertainty remains a dominant feature of the Geordie landscape. For now, satisfaction should be grasped from a job executed proficiently, but the future of the club is still opaque.

 

A question has been posed in recent weeks. Surely, after the long, grinding recovery since last spring, with Newcastle likely to return to the Barclays Premier League, is it not time for fans to let bygones be bygones in relation to Ashley? Is it not time for a cessation of the derogatory chants which are aimed at him in every match, home and away. Is it not time to embrace the new reality?

 

The subject is an exercise in irrelevance. There is no onus on fans to do anything other than to support their team however they see fit, which they have done in far greater numbers (with far less reason) and with deeper reserves of loyalty than anybody can have anticipated this season. Providing that their behaviour is legal – which it has been – they have no moral obligation to do anything.

 

All the responsibility lies with Ashley and his employees. Since the ham-fisted debacle of the stadium naming rights issue – in spite of the threats, @sportsdirect.com is yet to feature in any marketing at St James’ – there have been no public gaffes, no further indiscretions. In fact, things have been progressing relatively smoothly, although there is a caveat to that.

 

Newcastle did not become the next Leeds United. Albeit with a small staff, Hughton has been allowed to manage his players, without any sign of interference. At the end of the transfer window, none of their marquee names had been sold and Hughton’s squad was stronger than 31 days previously. But these things are not the stuff of garlands and triumph; it is what any sensible board should be doing.

 

Granted, Ashley has continued to fund the running of the club (at an alleged cost of £500,000-per-week, according to a “source” close to the sportswear retailer), but history should not be re-written. It was his “catastrophic” and “terrible decisions” (his words), which resulted in Newcastle’s financial implosion following their relegation and he is still picking up the shards.

 

Newcastle’s league status is not the fault of their fans. It was not their muddled policies that saw managers hoarded, discarded and, in the case of Keegan and Alan Shearer, betrayed. It was not them who made profits in the transfer market when a small squad cried out for strengthening, who twice failed to sell the club, who attracted public ridicule through employment tribunals.

 

We used to yearn for Ashley to explain himself, to talk about his reasons for buying Newcastle, to engage with a populace glad to see the back of an earlier, tainted regime. Over the last few months, we have come to appreciate the benefits of silence. Like the team, like Hughton, the club’s hierarchy have kept their heads down. In so doing, they have taken care not to aim ordinance at their own feet.

 

So, well done for that, but keep calm and carry on. Nothing to see here. Rumours persist in City circles that Ashley is desperate to conclude his involvement in football as soon as possible but, whatever his designs, planning should be well underway for what happens next. If he is unable (or even unwilling) to sell, he should be looking to protect what remains of his investment.

 

For all his catalogue of blunders, Ashley always represented an opportunity for Newcastle. He is rich (not Abramovic rich, but rich nonetheless) and his Sports Direct connections should provide the club with a natural, harmonious, mutually-beneficial relationship. Even if it is only a short-term arrangement until a more viable custodian can be found, that opportunity has not dissipated.

 

Bring in some serious-minded people, with an understanding of football and, preferably, an empathy with the region, to run the club on his behalf, no matter if they have to do so on a limited budget. Engage fans; open a meaningful, non-patronising dialogue with the Newcastle United Supporters Club and do what you can to get them on board. Be honest with people; they can take hard truths. What is there to lose?

 

Whether on the pitch or in the stands, there has been precious little arrogance from Newcastle this season. Players and their followers understand fully that this is not a club’s glorious resurrection, but the righting of a wrong, achieved through unity and huge effort. Belatedly, Ashley and Co have played a role. He should not expect people to cheer him for it.

Nice highlighting there mate- and....?

[Christmas Tree 4711]

and...... pours a little baileys with ice and contemplates the joys of spring

[Christmas Tree 4711]

It will all be alright when David and William are running the show in a few weeks time. Big business will once again get the deserved tax breaks and Mikes wealth will rocket.

[Happy Face 29]

Llambias on Radio Newcastle tonight....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p006l...ort_03_03_2010/

 

Go to one hour, five minutes and forty seconds.

[Monkeys Fist 42134]

and...... pours a little baileys with ice and contemplates the joys of spring

Out of Kronenbourg and........ what else was it? Babycham?

Mincer

[Kitman 2204]

As much as I admire your positivity CT, all Ashley et al have done this season is show they can run a championship football club pretty well. But it's not much to be grateful for considering we were a PL club when they took over. It would be nice to think we're on an upward arc, but given they made such a mess of things last time around, I think I'll wait and see.

[Happy Face 29]

Llambias on Radio Newcastle tonight....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p006l...ort_03_03_2010/

 

Go to one hour, five minutes and forty seconds.

 

 

Not a penny being taken out of the club apparently.

 

Blaming the Keegan pay-out and the wage bill....as if neither had anything to do with him.

 

28,000 season tickets sold this season.

 

Derogatory chants are foolish and offensive, they don't understand what Mike's done with the club.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

As much as I admire your positivity CT, all Ashley et al have done this season is show they can run a championship football club pretty well. But it's not much to be grateful for considering we were a PL club when they took over. It would be nice to think we're on an upward arc, but given they made such a mess of things last time around, I think I'll wait and see.

 

 

As we all will.

[Christmas Tree 4711]

Llambias on Radio Newcastle tonight....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p006l...ort_03_03_2010/

 

Go to one hour, five minutes and forty seconds.

 

 

Not a penny being taken out of the club apparently.

 

Blaming the Keegan pay-out and the wage bill....as if neither had anything to do with him.

 

28,000 season tickets sold this season.

 

Derogatory chants are foolish and offensive, they don't understand what Mike's done with the club.

 

Not as bad an interview as I would expect from Llambias. The odd silly comment but overall pretty realistic about the current and future situation.

[Happy Face 29]

Llambias on Radio Newcastle tonight....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p006l...ort_03_03_2010/

 

Go to one hour, five minutes and forty seconds.

 

 

Not a penny being taken out of the club apparently.

 

Blaming the Keegan pay-out and the wage bill....as if neither had anything to do with him.

 

28,000 season tickets sold this season.

 

Derogatory chants are foolish and offensive, they don't understand what Mike's done with the club.

 

He also says The Shouting Men has had excellent reviews...

‘The Shouting Men’ is a gormless British road movie that follows a group of Gillingham FC fans who travel to Newcastle by minibus to catch an away fixture. In footballing terms, the film is like a ten-nil trouncing on home turf by a team of lower-league minnows.

 

The scatological humour favoured by director Steve Kelly (‘City Rats’) and writer-star Warren Llambias means that much of the film is taken up by shots of people on toilets and references to such hot-button topics as ‘Strictly Come Dancing’ and football firm The ICF. Each character is based on a broad stereotype, so there’s The Fat One, The Black One, The Old One, The Violent One, The Quiet One, The Woman and The Sexed-Up OAP Couple.

 

All reach a gloopy epiphany in a final scene of pure idiocy in which Tinker from ‘Lovejoy’ doles out fortune-cookie wisdom bombs in a pub carvery. John Barnes cameos as himself.

 

one out of five

 

http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/88371/...outing-men.html

 

More lies then

[Christmas Tree 4711]

and...... pours a little baileys with ice and contemplates the joys of spring

Out of Kronenbourg and........ what else was it? Babycham?

Mincer

 

 

Fuck Off......Sambuca

[Monkeys Fist 42134]

and...... pours a little baileys with ice and contemplates the joys of spring

Out of Kronenbourg and........ what else was it? Babycham?

Mincer

 

 

Fuck Off......Sambuca

I stand/ stagger corrected- not mincey at all then

[Monkeys Fist 42134]

Llambias on Radio Newcastle tonight....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p006l...ort_03_03_2010/

 

Go to one hour, five minutes and forty seconds.

 

 

Not a penny being taken out of the club apparently.

 

Blaming the Keegan pay-out and the wage bill....as if neither had anything to do with him.

 

28,000 season tickets sold this season.

 

Derogatory chants are foolish and offensive, they don't understand what Mike's done with the club.

 

He also says The Shouting Men has had excellent reviews...

‘The Shouting Men’ is a gormless British road movie that follows a group of Gillingham FC fans who travel to Newcastle by minibus to catch an away fixture. In footballing terms, the film is like a ten-nil trouncing on home turf by a team of lower-league minnows.

 

The scatological humour favoured by director Steve Kelly (‘City Rats’) and writer-star Warren Llambias means that much of the film is taken up by shots of people on toilets and references to such hot-button topics as ‘Strictly Come Dancing’ and football firm The ICF. Each character is based on a broad stereotype, so there’s The Fat One, The Black One, The Old One, The Violent One, The Quiet One, The Woman and The Sexed-Up OAP Couple.

 

All reach a gloopy epiphany in a final scene of pure idiocy in which Tinker from ‘Lovejoy’ doles out fortune-cookie wisdom bombs in a pub carvery. John Barnes cameos as himself.

 

one out of five

 

http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/88371/...outing-men.html

 

More lies then

Coincidence, Shirley?

[Christmas Tree 4711]

Llambias on Radio Newcastle tonight....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p006l...ort_03_03_2010/

 

Go to one hour, five minutes and forty seconds.

 

 

Not a penny being taken out of the club apparently.

 

Blaming the Keegan pay-out and the wage bill....as if neither had anything to do with him.

 

28,000 season tickets sold this season.

 

Derogatory chants are foolish and offensive, they don't understand what Mike's done with the club.

 

He also says The Shouting Men has had excellent reviews...

‘The Shouting Men’ is a gormless British road movie that follows a group of Gillingham FC fans who travel to Newcastle by minibus to catch an away fixture. In footballing terms, the film is like a ten-nil trouncing on home turf by a team of lower-league minnows.

 

The scatological humour favoured by director Steve Kelly (‘City Rats’) and writer-star Warren Llambias means that much of the film is taken up by shots of people on toilets and references to such hot-button topics as ‘Strictly Come Dancing’ and football firm The ICF. Each character is based on a broad stereotype, so there’s The Fat One, The Black One, The Old One, The Violent One, The Quiet One, The Woman and The Sexed-Up OAP Couple.

 

All reach a gloopy epiphany in a final scene of pure idiocy in which Tinker from ‘Lovejoy’ doles out fortune-cookie wisdom bombs in a pub carvery. John Barnes cameos as himself.

 

one out of five

 

http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/88371/...outing-men.html

 

More lies then

Coincidence, Shirley?

 

The Guardian film critic quite liked it, but hey, lets not let a balanced argument get in the way of a good Llambias kicking

[Monkeys Fist 42134]

Llambias on Radio Newcastle tonight....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p006l...ort_03_03_2010/

 

Go to one hour, five minutes and forty seconds.

 

 

Not a penny being taken out of the club apparently.

 

Blaming the Keegan pay-out and the wage bill....as if neither had anything to do with him.

 

28,000 season tickets sold this season.

 

Derogatory chants are foolish and offensive, they don't understand what Mike's done with the club.

 

He also says The Shouting Men has had excellent reviews...

‘The Shouting Men’ is a gormless British road movie that follows a group of Gillingham FC fans who travel to Newcastle by minibus to catch an away fixture. In footballing terms, the film is like a ten-nil trouncing on home turf by a team of lower-league minnows.

 

The scatological humour favoured by director Steve Kelly (‘City Rats’) and writer-star Warren Llambias means that much of the film is taken up by shots of people on toilets and references to such hot-button topics as ‘Strictly Come Dancing’ and football firm The ICF. Each character is based on a broad stereotype, so there’s The Fat One, The Black One, The Old One, The Violent One, The Quiet One, The Woman and The Sexed-Up OAP Couple.

 

All reach a gloopy epiphany in a final scene of pure idiocy in which Tinker from ‘Lovejoy’ doles out fortune-cookie wisdom bombs in a pub carvery. John Barnes cameos as himself.

 

one out of five

 

http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/88371/...outing-men.html

 

More lies then

Coincidence, Shirley?

 

The Guardian film critic quite liked it, but hey, lets not let a balanced argument get in the way of a good Llambias kicking

Given the chance, no left wing dooder Grauniad writer could hold me back!

[snakehips 0]

Words on the subject from NUFC.COM

 

Being a private company, there's no validation possible of the sums mentioned, while claims as to how many fans have bowed to Ashley's realism also remain a matter of considerable debate and opinion.

 

As the season ticket offer detailed below shows though, the club are more than keen to start collecting cash for next season from today - a stance that's easier to justify given our present league position than it would have been were we currently in the lower reaches of the top flight. Get it while you can, before the negativity returns...

 

From our own experience, "resigned to" would be a more accurate description than won over, even among those who never stopped going and never started shouting. As for reason and realism though, there's been precious little evidence of that at club level in recent seasons; eg our comedy double bill "Carry On Kinnear" & "The Xisco Kid."

 

That "small section of the fanbase" may refer either to the vocal dissenters or NUST, but as the numbers involved in both groups demonstrate, neither are representative of popular opinion (and neither are we).

 

A better measure of whether Del boy's claims are accurate will come next season, when the number of fans buying season tickets, match tickets, corporate places, Puma shirts, pints, pies and programmes becomes apparent.

 

Only then will the level of forgiveness, acceptance, unity or whatever terminology is used be tangible. Until then it's as much hyperbole as "Yes We Can". For what it's worth, we're a long way from being convinced that the hand of friendship would ever be universally extended to the current mob, such is the hurt they've caused previously.

 

Given what is being said here, the level of investment in players many believe is required make an impact on our top flight return (assuming we get there) is unlikely to be forthcoming. However we won't be the only club unable or unwilling to spend lavishly on wages or transfer fees, which again lets them off the hook to some extent.

 

Tuesday marked 128 days since Mike Ashley confirmed that he was seeking to rebrand SJP. Although the "dry run" of associating his Sports Direct concern has never taken place, next season is a different matter.

 

It remains to be seen whether that idea returns to the fore, with Llambias having previously said that any funds raised via this method would be invested in the squad.

 

In our match report of the last home game v Preston when fans sang Chris Hughton's name, we talked about:

 

"...a generally-held pragmatism hereabouts that the dream ticket of fan-led ownership is neither realistic or actually desired by many folk, who really want to keep it simple - turn up, cheer/boo, go home. Nowt else.

 

"Being run by a rotund southerner of questionable parentage seems preferable to fake sheiks, some skint Scandinavians or dildo salesmen. In reality, we don't actually have that choice to make, but the owner seems similarly hamstrung when looking for someone to buy him out. Stuck in a marriage of convenience?"

 

Get promoted and regardless of our finishing position next season, we have a minimum two-year reservation on the Premier League gravy train (via the parachute payment if necessary). Plenty of time then for the world economic situation to improve and a buyer emerge.

 

Everything is for sale, everything has a price, including Newcastle United. We just haven't got the sign outside.

 

What's wrong with being a dildo salesman?

[peasepud 59]

I assume CT that your new found respect for our regime will mean we'll see you and your family on Saturday?

[Christmas Tree 4711]

I assume CT that your new found respect for our regime will mean we'll see you and your family on Saturday?

 

 

That's very generous pud. What's mrs pud cooking and what's your address?

[Monkeys Fist 42134]

I assume CT that your new found respect for our regime will mean we'll see you and your family on Saturday?

 

 

That's very generous pud. What's mrs pud cooking and what's your address?

NE1 4ST

Pie & Chips ( very reasonable)

[Kitman 2204]

I assume CT that your new found respect for our regime will mean we'll see you and your family on Saturday?

 

 

That's very generous pud. What's mrs pud cooking and what's your address?

NE1 4ST

Pie & Chips ( very reasonable)

 

With or without gravy?