Craig 6700 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Yet Desmond Dekka reckons we have a lack of revenue apparently.... Real Madrid top football rich list for fifth year eal Madrid have topped the league table of the world's richest football clubs for the fifth straight year, according to Deloitte's sport unit. Its Football Money League, based on data for season 2008/09, also says Real are the first global sports team to see annual revenues top 400m euros (£357m). Real's arch-rivals Barcelona have taken second sport in the list, ahead of Manchester United who drop to third. Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool are fifth, sixth and seventh respectively. The authors said that United would have been top of the Money League if the pound was still at June 2007 levels. But they point out that, despite exchange rate issues, seven of the top 20 in its table are from England, the other three being Tottenham (15th), Manchester City(19th), and relegated club Newcastle United (20th). All the 20 clubs represented are from the "big five" European leagues, with Germany contributing five clubs, Italy four, and France and Spain two each. Real retained top position despite a disappointing season, coming second in La Liga and exiting the Champions League at the Round of 16 stage. But they were boosted by a much-improved television contract with Mediapro, guaranteeing the club more than 1.1bn euros over seven seasons. Arch-rivals Barcelona had a hugely successful season, winning La Liga and the Champions League - beating Manchester United, who won the English Premier League in 2008/09, in the final. "We continue to assert that the game's top clubs are well placed to meet the challenges presented by the difficult economic environment," said Deloitte's Dan Jones, who compiled the report. "Their large and loyal supporter bases, ability to drive broadcast audiences, and continuing attraction to corporate partners, provide a strong base to underpin revenues." He said that this was shown by the fact that the combined revenues of the top 20 Money League clubs was over 3.9bn euros in 2008/09, up 26m euros on the previous year. And the majority of Money League clubs maintained average match attendances when comparing 2008/09 with 2007/08. There was not a great deal of movement in the top 20, with two new clubs - Werder Bremen and Manchester City - replacing VfB Stuttgart and Fenerbahce. Mr Jones said the limited change "reflects the fact that those clubs with the largest supporter bases in strongest economic markets, high attraction to commercial partners, and consistent participation in European competition, will dominate the top positions". However, there were warnings that many clubs now face "increased pressure on ticket pricing strategies and all clubs will continue to face challenges in managing match day" returns. And the report also points out that the current season, 2009/10, will offer clarification about whether the global recession has had a major impact on clubs' revenues. The Deloitte review does not include the cost of transfer fees or player wages, or VAT and other sales taxes, and concentrates solely on day-to-day income from football business. Income includes money from ticket sales, sponsorship, merchandising and other commercial revenues, television monies, corporate hospitality, and non-match day stadium use such as for conferences. The list had been headed by Manchester United for eight years until Real Madrid deposed them. 1 Real Madrid, Spain2 Barcelona, Spain 3 Manchester United, England 4 Bayern Munich, Germany 5 Arsenal, England 6 Chelsea, England 7 Liverpool, England 8 Juventus, Italy 9t Inter Milan, Italy 9t AC Milan, Italy 11 Hamburg, Germany 12 AS Roma, Italy 13 Lyon, France 14 Marseille, France 15 Tottenham, England 16 Schalke, Germany 17 Werder Bremen, Germany 18 Borussia Dortmund, Germany 19 Manchester City, England 20 Newcastle, England Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8541445.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Can't see us being in the Top 20 for 09/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Quite agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Can't beleive that. I reckon we'll have dropped out of the top 30 this year easily. still, 101 mil ain't bad, but then you look at the wage bill, and how badly the club is run etc etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Were we the only club there without European football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Can't beleive that. I reckon we'll have dropped out of the top 30 this year easily. still, 101 mil ain't bad, but then you look at the wage bill, and how badly the club is run etc etc..... About £91million. Down from about £100m the year before....when running costs had been about £120m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 We'll still be losing money like. The wage bill that took up 70% of our revenue the previous year won't have reduced a great deal, not before the new year anyway.... Wage Savings Carr Rozehnal Ramage Emre Faye Milner Wage Additions Guthrie Guti Colo Bassong Xisco Nacho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Mike's obviously skint, hence the proposed takeover of Black's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I see Keith Harris has surfaced again - involved in a bid to buy Man Utd. I still think the bloke's a con man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Little backstory to the Black's thing I heard on the news yesterday and this morning btw: one of the main reasons Black's put forward a recovery package recently (the one Ashley has just blocked) is because Black's wanted to sell an arm of their business a while ago. Apparently the timing would have been perfect but the sale was blocked at the time by (guess who) Ashley, who already had a major stake in the firm. That part of the business went tits up and is probably the main reason Black's got into financial difficulty. Sounds familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I see Keith Harris has surfaced again - involved in a bid to buy Man Utd. I still think the bloke's a con man. dont think its his fault we didnt get sold, he can only bring in offers, it was down to ashley to deny them all with his ridiculous asking price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Little backstory to the Black's thing I heard on the news yesterday and this morning btw: one of the main reasons Black's put forward a recovery package recently (the one Ashley has just blocked) is because Black's wanted to sell an arm of their business a while ago. Apparently the timing would have been perfect but the sale was blocked at the time by (guess who) Ashley, who already had a major stake in the firm. That part of the business went tits up and is probably the main reason Black's got into financial difficulty. Sounds familiar. Aye, the man doesn't give a fuck about any of the other shareholders whatsoever, even the way he has treated the shareholders of Sports Direct (the people who gave him so much cash) has been disgraceful. But that's capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 20. (17.) Newcastle United- €101.0m The 2008-'09 season was a season to forget for Newcastle United as they failed to retain their Premier League status and relegated to the Championship after a sixteen-season spell in England's top tier. Nevertheless, the Magpies still totalled a €101 revenue to finish in the top 20 of Deloitte's Money Football League. 19. (-) Manchester City- €101.2m Last season was the first season of the Abu Dhabi United Group’s ownership of Manchester City and the Citizens finished the Premier League in tenth position. Despute their slightly disapppointing performances, revenues increased by six percent to a total of €102.2 million, thus securing nineteenth spot. 18. (20.) Borussia Dortmund- €103.5m Borussia Dortmund have climbed two spots compared to last season's Deloitte Money Football League top 20. BVB failed to qualify for European football last term, but average attendances of almost 75.000 per home game boosted their total revenues to €103.5 million. 17. (-) Werder Bremen- €114.7m Werder Bremen are the first new team in this top 20 with revenues of €114.7 million. The Hanseaten made it into last year's UEFA Cup final and won the DFB Pokal, thus generating 26% more revenues than the year before. Broadcasting revenues were the major source of income for the Bundesliga side. 16. (13.) Schalke- €124.5m Schalke slipped three places down the ranking due to a reduction in total revenues of €23.9 million. The Gelsenkirchen side continued to sell out its Veltins Arena, but a different mix of games (UEFA Cup instead of Champions League) resulted in a reduction of matchday income. 15. (14.) Tottenham Hotspur- €132.7m Tottenham reached the Carling Cup final for the second consecutive season and finished eighth in the Premier League after a disappointing start to the season. The London side totalled revenues of €132.7 million, only two percent lower than last season's record income. 14. (16.) Olympique de Marseille- €133.2m Olympique Marseille climb two spots in the Deloitte Money Football League and close the gap to French rivals Olympique Lyonnais to €6.4 million. Marseille only just missed out on the French title last year. Consistent Champions League qualification has kept the Ligue 1 contenders among Europe's top 20 money-spinning clubs. 13. (12.) Olympique Lyonnais- €139.6m Olympique Lyonnais wer not crowned French champions at the end of last season for the first time in seven seasons. The Ligue 1 titans still totalled revenues of €139.6 million though and sit thirteenth in this ranking. Lyonnais revenues decreased by ten percent last season. 12. (9.) Roma- €146.4m Roma lost three places compared to last season and have dropped from the tope ten. The Giallorossi had a disappointing season on the pitch finishing in sixth position in Serie A and were eliminated in the Champions League in the Round of 16. Roma's revenues dropped to €146.4, a decrease of seventeen percent. 11. (15.) Hamburger SV- €146.7m A rather successful season on the pitch helped Hamburger SV increase revenues by an impressive fifteen percent, despite not playing in the Champions League. HSV have almost doubled their revenues in the past five seasons and totalled an amount of €146.7 million last season. 10. (7.) AC Milan- €196.5m Milan fall three places in the money league following a disappointing 2008-'09 season. The Rossoneri failed to qualify for Champions League football and entered the UEFA cup instead. This cost Milan €26 million in UEFA central broadcasting distributions. Commercial and matchday revenues increased, but not enough to make up for the aforementioned loss. 9. (10.) Internazionale- €196.5m The Italian champions post a €23.6m (14%) increase in revenue to €196.5million. Internazionale have been the dominant force in the Serie A in the past couple of seasons, but still await Champions League glory. As with the other Italian clubs in the Money League, broadcasting provides the majority of the club’s revenue (59%). 8. (11.) Juventus- €203.2m Juventus’ first Champions League campaign since 2005/06 helped drive a revenue increase of €35.7million (21%) to €203.2 million. The Turin side's matchday revenues remain the lowest of any Money League club. If the Old Lady is to increase revenue, they need to work on their attendances. 7. (8.) Liverpool- €217.0m Liverpool's second place Premier League finish last term resulted in an increase of broadcating revenue. However, the Reds are still only the fourth placed English side in the Money League. Their quarter-final Champions League exit didn't do Liverpool any good financially. 6. (5.) Chelsea- €242.3m Chelsea’s footballing fortunes were mixed in 2008/09. Managerial instability provided a backdrop for a disappointing third place finish in the Premier League. However, they made up for this by winning the FA Cup. Off the pitch Chelsea dropped out of the Money League top five for the first time since 2002/03, as revenue fell to €242.3million. 5. (6.) Arsenal- €263.0m Arsenal return to the money top five after a one-year absence. Chief Executive Ivan Gazidis’ aim of running a financially ‘self sufficient’ club is assisted by repeatedly filling the Emirates stadium to its 60,400 capacity. Additionally, Arsenal grew its commercial revenues to €56.5million. 4. (4.) Bayern Munich- €289.5m Bayern Munich saw revenues decline by two percent, but managed to hold to fourth spot in the Money League with a total revenue of €289,5 million. The Bavarians failed to win the Bundesliga, but did manage to win direct qualification for the Champions League, thus securing a considerable amount of broadcasting revenues. 3. (2.) Manchester United- €327.0m English champions Manchester United dropped to third spot following Barcelona's extremely successful season. Manchester saw commercial -, matchday - and broadcasting revenue all increase and total a revenue of €327 million. Yet even this was not enough to retain last year’s runner-up position in the Money League, with further deterioration in the Sterling exchange rate compounding the effect of Barcelona’s more rapid revenue growth. 2. (3.) Barcelona- €365.9m Champions League winners Barcelona will be absolutely deligthed with their sportive successes last season. Additionally, they had a good season financially, too. The favourable Euro to Pound Sterling exchange rate saw Barcelona leapfrog Manchester United into second place in the Money League, with total revenues increasing by 18% to €365.9million. 1. (1.) Real Madrid - €401.4m Real Madrid hold on to top spot in the Money League with ease and are the first sports team in history with revenues exceeding €400 million. Los Blancos might have failed to impress on the pitch last season, but they have every reason to be proud with their performances off the pitch. The club’s contract with Mediapro combined with certain others, guarantees the club more than €1.1 billion over the seven seasons to 2013/14. See HSV and Spurs steadily climbing the list over the last few seasons. http://goal.com/en/news/755/europe/2010/03...-league-in-full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Were we the only club there without European football? Certainly the only club not in their country's top division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Aye, but we were for the period that the data relates to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffidae 0 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Newcastle United Football Club never ceases to amaze me both on and off the pitch. It's a magnificant soap opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Average attendance of 50,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Average attendance of 50,000 I was under the impression tickets were a lot cheaper though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Insider Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Average attendance of 50,000 I was under the impression tickets were a lot cheaper though Leaving their fans more money to spend on Becks and German sausages from the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Were we the only club there without European football? Certainly the only club not in their country's top division. We're not a 'big' club though remember.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Average attendance of 50,000 I was under the impression tickets were a lot cheaper though They average 21 euros. http://static.bundesliga.de/media/native/d...dfl_bl_2010.pdf They play 4 less games a season too. Must have a canny TV package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Average attendance of 50,000 I was under the impression tickets were a lot cheaper though They average 21 euros. http://static.bundesliga.de/media/native/d...dfl_bl_2010.pdf They play 4 less games a season too. Must have a canny TV package. or maybe they pay their players less?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Average attendance of 50,000 I was under the impression tickets were a lot cheaper though They average 21 euros. http://static.bundesliga.de/media/native/d...dfl_bl_2010.pdf They play 4 less games a season too. Must have a canny TV package. or maybe they pay their players less?????? That wouldn't affect total revenue, which is what's being measured here. Though it is true. Apparently the avearge Premier league player gets $1.3m a year, the average bundesliga gets $850k Edited March 2, 2010 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 surprised how much money the german clubs make, especially Hamburg SV. Average attendance of 50,000 I was under the impression tickets were a lot cheaper though They average 21 euros. http://static.bundesliga.de/media/native/d...dfl_bl_2010.pdf They play 4 less games a season too. Must have a canny TV package. or maybe they pay their players less?????? Aye they probably do, but this is just revenue rather than profit, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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