The Falklands

[Happy Face 29]

You obviously think the middle eastern countries are the good guys.

 

The way you call other people naive while repeatedly referring to goodies and baddies like some 7 year old playing cowboys and indians is a constant source of amusement.

Edited February 24, 2010 by Happy Face

[Rob W 0]

"A British company, Desire Petroleum, has hired the rig to drill prospects in the North Falkland basin and will later lease it to two other British companies and an Australian one – Rockhopper, and Falklands Oil and Gas; and BHP Billiton – which also have exploration contracts. They will use the rig in rotation throughout 2010."

 

It needs to be worked out who's going to benefit from this. Are the soldiers who die to save Tax haven based oil companies arses going to get shares? Is Britain actually going to benefit in a concrete manner and I'm not talking 3p on the barrel etc...IMO we shouldn't be out there fighting for oil which isn't going to benefit us at all. It's time Govt stopped doing the fighting for big business. If BP want oil there or Rockhopper let them fight for it.

People get so easily drawn into this kind of shit with no idea if it actually will benefit us in any concrete way whatsoever.

 

 

Hmmm - I never knew the Malverns were a tax haven - cos that's where Desire are based - and FOGL and Rockhopper are based in the UK as well........

The trouble is d when do you draw the line about protecting people from a foreign govt tey don;t want Parky

 

You're a big fan of Venezuala and "keep the yanks out" - shirley the same applies to the Falklands and the Argies??

[LeazesMag 0]

You obviously think the middle eastern countries are the good guys.

 

The way you call other people naive while repeatedly referring to goodies and baddies like some 7 year old playing cowboys and indians is a constant source of amusement.

 

you're too idealogical, like most students. However, you're not an idiot, like one or two others.

[Guest alex]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

[LeazesMag 0]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

 

I don't think so. Spouting idealistic naive rubbish is what it is Alex.

[Guest alex]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

[LeazesMag 0]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

[NJS 4375]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

 

I did Engineering at University and didn't attend a single political meeting or event.

 

How does that fit into your "knowledge"?

[Guest alex]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

I can only really comment on my experience and I left about 14 years ago (barring some part-time post-grad stuff whilst working) but I didn't find the students themselves in general to be particularly political (apathetic more like) and the lecturers never even discussed politics in lectures or seminars. It's the subjects being studied that gets discussed and little else. That may lead into politics in certain cases (as well as other things) but not in the way you're suggesting and I never once experienced a member of staff trying to promote their political views. Overtly doing so would get them in trouble I'd imagine. I did have a pretty funny tutor who was a Tory councillor though, as it happens.

[LeazesMag 0]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

 

I did Engineering at University and didn't attend a single political meeting or event.

 

How does that fit into your "knowledge"?

 

nobody around you talked about politics then ?

 

You obviously have knowledge of Engineering then, I wouldn't dispute that at all.

[Park Life 71]

"A British company, Desire Petroleum, has hired the rig to drill prospects in the North Falkland basin and will later lease it to two other British companies and an Australian one – Rockhopper, and Falklands Oil and Gas; and BHP Billiton – which also have exploration contracts. They will use the rig in rotation throughout 2010."

 

It needs to be worked out who's going to benefit from this. Are the soldiers who die to save Tax haven based oil companies arses going to get shares? Is Britain actually going to benefit in a concrete manner and I'm not talking 3p on the barrel etc...IMO we shouldn't be out there fighting for oil which isn't going to benefit us at all. It's time Govt stopped doing the fighting for big business. If BP want oil there or Rockhopper let them fight for it.

People get so easily drawn into this kind of shit with no idea if it actually will benefit us in any concrete way whatsoever.

 

 

Hmmm - I never knew the Malverns were a tax haven - cos that's where Desire are based - and FOGL and Rockhopper are based in the UK as well........

The trouble is d when do you draw the line about protecting people from a foreign govt tey don;t want Parky

 

You're a big fan of Venezuala and "keep the yanks out" - shirley the same applies to the Falklands and the Argies??

 

Show me the money.

[tooner 243]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

 

 

you do know that not all studies at university have to do with ideologies/philosophy right?

[tooner 243]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

 

I did Engineering at University and didn't attend a single political meeting or event.

 

How does that fit into your "knowledge"?

 

 

me as well.....all of my political views are based on life experience..

[Park Life 71]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

 

I did Engineering at University and didn't attend a single political meeting or event.

 

How does that fit into your "knowledge"?

 

 

me as well.....all of my political views are based on internet porn..

 

FYP.

[Meenzer 15432]

The most political my university ever got was the students' union elections. And the most political I ever got at university was spoiling my ballot in the same elections by scrawling "GLORIFIED POPULARITY CONTEST" across it. I was a right fucking twat.

[tooner 243]

I don't know where you get this notion universities shove political ideas down people's throats Leazes but you're a bit of a hypocrite if it isn't based on 'life experience' gained attending one.

 

 

sitting/standing in a classroom and lecturing is experiencing the real thing ie human nature ?

Not what I said or meant as you well know. I was simply pointing out that you have a go at people for commenting about things they haven't experienced yet you seem to think you're qualified in someway to comment on what goes on at university. Not difficult to see the flaw in that logic.

 

OK I can accept your point of view. But what I say is based on what they say, logically it tells you that university is teaching them idealogical bullshit, politically speaking.

 

I did Engineering at University and didn't attend a single political meeting or event.

 

How does that fit into your "knowledge"?

 

 

me as well.....all of my political views are based on internet porn..

 

FYP.

[Happy Face 29]

You obviously think the middle eastern countries are the good guys.

 

The way you call other people naive while repeatedly referring to goodies and baddies like some 7 year old playing cowboys and indians is a constant source of amusement.

 

you're too idealogical, like most students. However, you're not an idiot, like one or two others.

 

Why thankyou.

 

Remember that every member of the cabinet that took us to war, and still support it, went to university.

 

I'm not a pacifist who opposes all war on grounds of peace and love either, I oppose this war because we're the aggressors and it makes Britain a less safe place to live, which is an undeniable fact.

Edited February 24, 2010 by Happy Face

[NJS 4375]

nobody around you talked about politics then ?

 

Not really - then again my political views were pretty much already formed by thetime I went there - socialism from my Mam (you know that pesky thinking the best of people view you dislike so much) and harder ideas formed by growing up in the north east in th 70s/early 80s and seeing what the bitch was doing.

 

In fact Thatcher had an infintely greater influence on my political views than any University ever could - and nothing that's happend to me or the country in the subsequent years has changed that to any great degree.

[Guest alex]

I think that's the case for most people tbh, i.e. their views are already formed by the time they get to university. I also think anyone trying to impose their views on me would have had the opposite effect (had it ever happened). And the only political party I can remember seeing at the 'Freshers Fair' (not that I was looking very hard) were the Young Conservatives, using the tagline "Rebels with a Cause"

[LeazesMag 0]

nobody around you talked about politics then ?

 

Not really - then again my political views were pretty much already formed by thetime I went there - socialism from my Mam (you know that pesky thinking the best of people view you dislike so much) and harder ideas formed by growing up in the north east in th 70s/early 80s and seeing what the bitch was doing.

 

In fact Thatcher had an infintely greater influence on my political views than any University ever could - and nothing that's happend to me or the country in the subsequent years has changed that to any great degree.

 

how do you know I don't have some socialist views ?

 

I wouldn't consider myself aligned to any particular party to be honest.

[LeazesMag 0]

Back on topic in this thread.

 

I totally agreed with invading the Falklands, it had to be done.

 

The reasons why it happened are a different kettle of fish altogether.

 

I can see it happening again, but don't know when.

[NJS 4375]

nobody around you talked about politics then ?

 

Not really - then again my political views were pretty much already formed by thetime I went there - socialism from my Mam (you know that pesky thinking the best of people view you dislike so much) and harder ideas formed by growing up in the north east in th 70s/early 80s and seeing what the bitch was doing.

 

In fact Thatcher had an infintely greater influence on my political views than any University ever could - and nothing that's happend to me or the country in the subsequent years has changed that to any great degree.

 

how do you know I don't have some socialist views ?

 

I wouldn't consider myself aligned to any particular party to be honest.

 

I would presume you do (most "decent" people do) - I think you've mentioned before support for public transport.

 

What you don't have (imo) is a view based on a community of all different kinds of people working together for the common good of all.

[snakehips 0]

I've been to the Falkland Is a few times Yeah, I know, you all want my autograph!

 

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

Anyway, back to the university of life and the school of hard knocks.....

[Happy Face 29]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

[LeazesMag 0]

nobody around you talked about politics then ?

 

Not really - then again my political views were pretty much already formed by thetime I went there - socialism from my Mam (you know that pesky thinking the best of people view you dislike so much) and harder ideas formed by growing up in the north east in th 70s/early 80s and seeing what the bitch was doing.

 

In fact Thatcher had an infintely greater influence on my political views than any University ever could - and nothing that's happend to me or the country in the subsequent years has changed that to any great degree.

 

how do you know I don't have some socialist views ?

 

I wouldn't consider myself aligned to any particular party to be honest.

 

I would presume you do (most "decent" people do) - I think you've mentioned before support for public transport.

 

What you don't have (imo) is a view based on a community of all different kinds of people working together for the common good of all.

 

Are you saying you associate "decency" with Socialism ?