Rob W 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Interesting geologist who worked on oil finding missions in the Falklands previously, when they extracted a massive - TWO litres - of oil. Anyway, this provided proof of concept, but the best case scenario is that they can extract 390 billion barrels out of the Falklands, but there is only about 10% chance of this. To put this find into perspective, the world would use that much oil in 4 days. Well historically the rate for new field wildcats worldwide is a 10% chance - but that's just finding ANYTHING - finding sommat big enough to develop down there is going to be tough. BP's Claire Field off Shetland waited 30 + years to come on stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable. I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low. By the end it was at a record high. I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive. No I wouldn't. Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic. Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means. He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of. such as ? He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man. That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed. Pathetic. Since its topical today, and to defend his honour, does Foot really look that scruffy in this photograph? I thought it was supposed ot be a Donkey Jacket as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable. I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low. By the end it was at a record high. I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive. No I wouldn't. Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic. Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means. He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of. such as ? He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man. That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed. Pathetic. Since its topical today, and to defend his honour, does Foot really look that scruffy in this photograph? I thought it was supposed ot be a Donkey Jacket as well? No, it never was a Donkey Jacket, but the description somehow suited the argument so it became common lore. I always thought of Foot as one of these guys who was just that bit too engrossed in politics. Highly intelligent, I suppose, but his 'day' was earlier than when he came to the very top iykwim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) Since its topical today, and to defend his honour, does Foot really look that scruffy in this photograph? I thought it was supposed ot be a Donkey Jacket as well? Written by cunts who've never seen a proper NCB or shipyard donkey jacket of course. Edited March 3, 2010 by NJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42484 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable. I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low. By the end it was at a record high. I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive. No I wouldn't. Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic. Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means. He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of. such as ? He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man. That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed. Pathetic. Since its topical today, and to defend his honour, does Foot really look that scruffy in this photograph? I thought it was supposed ot be a Donkey Jacket as well? If anyone would care to point out the differences between Foot and the Odious Geoffrey behind him I'd love to hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Funnily enough I had a look on the internet last night and thought the same. It's not a donkey jacket. Still didn't stop Heseltine bringing it up on the news last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Still didn't stop Heseltine bringing it up on the news last night. One thing that gets me is that there are some Tories who are obvious twats like Tebbit but I'd say at least he's an honest twat. People like Hestletine somehow get a reputation for being a more reasonable person which is frankly bullshit - just beacuse Hestletine stuck his knife into Thatcher doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Still didn't stop Heseltine bringing it up on the news last night. One thing that gets me is that there are some Tories who are obvious twats like Tebbit but I'd say at least he's an honest twat. People like Hestletine somehow get a reputation for being a more reasonable person which is frankly bullshit - just beacuse Hestletine stuck his knife into Thatcher doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't a cunt. Aye, he likes to paint himself as a bit of a liberal man of the people. At least Tebbit doesn't even pretend he wouldn't sell his granny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Aye, he likes to paint himself as a bit of a liberal man of the people. At least Tebbit doesn't even pretend he wouldn't sell his granny. I remember when Mark Thomas did a show on the Millenium Dome and the way Hestletine (and Mandelson to be fair) ignored perfectly reasonable questions and wouldn't even speak to him beacuse they knew they were screwed was beyond ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Aye, he likes to paint himself as a bit of a liberal man of the people. At least Tebbit doesn't even pretend he wouldn't sell his granny. I remember when Mark Thomas did a show on the Millenium Dome and the way Hestletine (and Mandelson to be fair) ignored perfectly reasonable questions and wouldn't even speak to him beacuse they knew they were screwed was beyond ignorance. Mandy's cut from the same cloth anyway. Btw, does anyone even know anyone who went to the Dome for the Millenium exhibition? It looked absolutely tragic on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15561 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Aye, he likes to paint himself as a bit of a liberal man of the people. At least Tebbit doesn't even pretend he wouldn't sell his granny. I remember when Mark Thomas did a show on the Millenium Dome and the way Hestletine (and Mandelson to be fair) ignored perfectly reasonable questions and wouldn't even speak to him beacuse they knew they were screwed was beyond ignorance. Mandy's cut from the same cloth anyway. Btw, does anyone even know anyone who went to the Dome for the Millenium exhibition? It looked absolutely tragic on TV. My dad did. It was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I can't remember what the predicted figures as opposed to the actual attendance over the year was but it was well down. I think though it was something like 3 times as many people going there as went to Alton Towers in an average year (Alton Towers being the biggest UK visitor attraction I think) to hit the targets / break even. That was never going to happen. Tbf, it was a bit of a 'couldn't win either way' scenario for Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15561 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 The whole thing was doomed as soon as it became obvious there was no uniform concept behind what they were trying to achieve. "Here's a collection of loosely related things that may be of some interest, in a place with no other amenities nearby. Enjoy!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 The whole thing was doomed as soon as it became obvious there was no uniform concept behind what they were trying to achieve. "Here's a collection of loosely related things that may be of some interest, in a place with no other amenities nearby. Enjoy!" I think the same bloke must be copywriting their 2010 manifesto pledges. (And the Tories tbf). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Still didn't stop Heseltine bringing it up on the news last night. One thing that gets me is that there are some Tories who are obvious twats like Tebbit but I'd say at least he's an honest twat. People like Hestletine somehow get a reputation for being a more reasonable person which is frankly bullshit - just beacuse Hestletine stuck his knife into Thatcher doesn't mean he isn't/wasn't a cunt. Friend of mine was fairly senior in the MoD in the 80's when Heeselteath was there - reckoned Monday Morning Prayers always started with Hesseltine demanding what photo opportunities had been scheduled for him that week whereas Portillllllllllo, was very professional indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 'Tarzan' was/is indeed smarmy, but at least he deserves some credit for resigning over the Westland affair. There are, no doubt, more facts that I don't recall, but it seemed a decent thing to do at the time to me. I recall him doing a speech at the Tory party conference some years back "About turn! About turn!". What a goon. Those who remember it will know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 'Tarzan' was/is indeed smarmy, but at least he deserves some credit for resigning over the Westland affair. There are, no doubt, more facts that I don't recall, but it seemed a decent thing to do at the time to me. That was a calculated gesture so he could challenge Thatcher for the leadership - the idea of a Tory caring abouty a workforce is fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I can't remember what the predicted figures as opposed to the actual attendance over the year was but it was well down. I think though it was something like 3 times as many people going there as went to Alton Towers in an average year (Alton Towers being the biggest UK visitor attraction I think) to hit the targets / break even. That was never going to happen. Tbf, it was a bit of a 'couldn't win either way' scenario for Labour. I went the day after the FA cup semifinal. It was utterly gash. I think the French premier at the time had it spot on - 'But what ees it for???' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think the French premier at the time had it spot on - 'But what ees it for???' I thought it was a concept failure - if you're going to build a phallic symbol you should at least make it phallus shaped rather than sort of tit shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I can't remember what the predicted figures as opposed to the actual attendance over the year was but it was well down. I think though it was something like 3 times as many people going there as went to Alton Towers in an average year (Alton Towers being the biggest UK visitor attraction I think) to hit the targets / break even. That was never going to happen. Tbf, it was a bit of a 'couldn't win either way' scenario for Labour. I went the day after the FA cup semifinal. It was utterly gash. I think the French premier at the time had it spot on - 'But what ees it for???' It's better now. Anyway the French PM saying that, bit of irony there. Maybe someone should ask him the same question regarding the whole of France. One of the obstacles of the dome I think is it's not the most accessible place on earth, especially if you're not familar with London. If it was in Central London it would've made more money without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 They've now made a 'village' of trendy flats out there, and Christ it's a depressing place. As well as the live venues in the dome, there is a street of shops and bars...still inside the dome. We went to some shit derivative eatery there and the waitress asked if we wanted to sit inside or out. Greenwich itself is quite nice and one of the handiest places to get in and out of London from, and has proper outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15561 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Aye, Greenwich itself is lovely. A bit yummy-mummy in places, but you'd expect that. I live about 20 minutes' walk from Greenwich station and you actually get estate agents advertising this neighbourhood as South Greenwich. Rightio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30680 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 it was in Central London it would've made more money without a doubt. And cost a fuckload more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I can't remember what the predicted figures as opposed to the actual attendance over the year was but it was well down. I think though it was something like 3 times as many people going there as went to Alton Towers in an average year (Alton Towers being the biggest UK visitor attraction I think) to hit the targets / break even. That was never going to happen. Tbf, it was a bit of a 'couldn't win either way' scenario for Labour. I went the day after the FA cup semifinal. It was utterly gash. I think the French premier at the time had it spot on - 'But what ees it for???' It's better now. Anyway the French PM saying that, bit of irony there. Maybe someone should ask him the same question regarding the whole of France. One of the obstacles of the dome I think is it's not the most accessible place on earth, especially if you're not familar with London. If it was in Central London it would've made more money without a doubt. The main obstacle to the Dome (i.e. millenium exhibition) was that it was gash though. A huge vanity statement for New Labour - all style and no substance. Did you actually go to it? I can't even describe how bad it was, Meenzer came close in an earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) They've now made a 'village' of trendy flats out there, and Christ it's a depressing place. As well as the live venues in the dome, there is a street of shops and bars...still inside the dome. We went to some shit derivative eatery there and the waitress asked if we wanted to sit inside or out. Greenwich itself is quite nice and one of the handiest places to get in and out of London from, and has proper outdoors. The Blackwall Tunnel is a nightmare a lot of the time. Got close family who live a Jonas Gutierrez shot away from the top of the park, and I have to say on a sunny day the park itself is one of the most beautiful places in the whole of Britain. You even get dears roaming around sometimes, it's mad. Where do you live Westcombe Park? Edited March 5, 2010 by Barrack Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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