The Falklands

[LeazesMag 0]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

 

 

No I wouldn't.

 

Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic.

 

Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means.

[NJS 4375]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

 

 

No I wouldn't.

 

Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic.

 

Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means.

 

 

He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of.

[LeazesMag 0]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

 

 

No I wouldn't.

 

Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic.

 

Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means.

 

 

He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of.

 

such as ?

 

He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man.

[NJS 4375]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

 

 

No I wouldn't.

 

Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic.

 

Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means.

 

 

He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of.

 

such as ?

 

He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man.

 

 

That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed.

 

Pathetic.

[TheMoog 0]

I fucking hate students, they're all full of piss and wind about stupid lefty bollocks and bear a striking similarity to Rik Mayall in the young ones.

 

... that is all.

 

[LeazesMag 0]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

 

 

No I wouldn't.

 

Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic.

 

Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means.

 

 

He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of.

 

such as ?

 

He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man.

 

 

That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed.

 

Pathetic.

 

You are wrong, totally wrong.

 

For starters, I'm just amplifying one incident, but it is significant nonetheless. If he doesn't possess the wherewithal to understand the need to dress for such occasions in the appropriate manner, then holding the office of Prime Minister is totally unsuitable to him.

 

Whatever fancy opinions he has, the PM of Great Britain has a certain dignity to uphold and dressing like a tramp on such an occasion is a complete non starter.

 

I can see you have no standards.

[NJS 4375]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

 

 

No I wouldn't.

 

Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic.

 

Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means.

 

 

He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of.

 

such as ?

 

He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man.

 

 

That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed.

 

Pathetic.

 

You are wrong, totally wrong.

 

For starters, I'm just amplifying one incident, but it is significant nonetheless. If he doesn't possess the wherewithal to understand the need to dress for such occasions in the appropriate manner, then holding the office of Prime Minister is totally unsuitable to him.

 

Whatever fancy opinions he has, the PM of Great Britain has a certain dignity to uphold and dressing like a tramp on such an occasion is a complete non starter.

 

I can see you have no standards.

 

I do have standards - a bloke in his 70s on a cold november day can wear whatever keeps him warm as far as I'm concerned.

 

I mentioned era deliberately - Lloyd George was a womanising alcoholic, as were Churchill and most PMs from the 19th century but in those days there were no tabloids and no idiots like you who think a coat makes a man.

 

"Fancy opinions" = principles.

[Guest alex]

At least Thatcher was well-dressed when she was dismantling the coal and shipbuilding industries in the NE. Never a hair out of place either.

[Rob W 0]

"That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed.

 

Pathetic."

 

No - it was because it really summed Foot up - out of touch with people, sunk in his own intellectual world and incapable of doing anything but repeat the mantras of the PLP going back to 1910

 

Remember when he ran against Thatcher the Labour party Manifesto was described as "the longest suicide note in history" and that was by tehir own side

[NJS 4375]

"That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed.

 

Pathetic."

 

No - it was because it really summed Foot up - out of touch with people, sunk in his own intellectual world and incapable of doing anything but repeat the mantras of the PLP going back to 1910

 

Remember when he ran against Thatcher the Labour party Manifesto was described as "the longest suicide note in history" and that was by tehir own side

 

I don't dispute that in 1982 they were pretty much unelectable - partly because Foot was stuck in a an older age where peoople cared about things - but the "donkey jacket" thing was just an excuse imo.

[Park Life 71]

At least Thatcher was well-dressed when she was dismantling the coal and shipbuilding industries in the NE. Never a hair out of place either.

 

 

Used to eat 6 eggs a day...Gets my vote.

[Guest alex]

Large Scotch before each Cabinet meeting too iirc. Gawd bless 'er.

[Park Life 71]

Large Scotch before each Cabinet meeting too iirc. Gawd bless 'er.

 

She was right about Europe from day one. Meddling Burssels sprouts...

[LeazesMag 0]

I was told that one of the reasons for fighting to keep them is that they represent a very important staging post to the mineral deposits (should they ever become commercially, or ecologically viable) in British Antartica. Whether this is bullshit, I know not, but it seemed fairly creditable.

 

I thought it was because Thatcher's popularity was at a record low.

 

By the end it was at a record high.

 

I'd say that makes me a cynic, but then, Leazes would say it makes me naive.

 

 

No I wouldn't.

 

Her popularity had sank from when she had been elected a few years earlier [which govt doesn't, not many] but she also had no opposition - I think Michael Foot may have been Labour Leader, who was nothing but a tramp and a lunatic.

 

Yes, the Falklands propelled her in the popularity stakes. I think the majority of people realised the Falklands had to be done, apart from the idealistic anti-war mongs. There is no way Argentina would have negotiated over the Falklands, they wanted them back and the only way it would be done was by military means.

 

 

He was in the wrong age (ie media etc) to ever have a chance of being PM but he had more intelligence and principles in his little toe than you could ever dream of.

 

such as ?

 

He looked a fuckin tramp at the Cenotaph man.

 

 

That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed.

 

Pathetic.

 

You are wrong, totally wrong.

 

For starters, I'm just amplifying one incident, but it is significant nonetheless. If he doesn't possess the wherewithal to understand the need to dress for such occasions in the appropriate manner, then holding the office of Prime Minister is totally unsuitable to him.

 

Whatever fancy opinions he has, the PM of Great Britain has a certain dignity to uphold and dressing like a tramp on such an occasion is a complete non starter.

 

I can see you have no standards.

 

I do have standards - a bloke in his 70s on a cold november day can wear whatever keeps him warm as far as I'm concerned.

 

I mentioned era deliberately - Lloyd George was a womanising alcoholic, as were Churchill and most PMs from the 19th century but in those days there were no tabloids and no idiots like you who think a coat makes a man.

 

"Fancy opinions" = principles.

 

Like it or lump it. There are certain things you have to do in life, and a prime minister or potential PM should be seen to uphold his office, not dress like a fuckin tramp on such an occasion as that. It's all about class, and he was a disgrace to everybody in the Labour Party and every Labour voter.

 

Why do you left wing sandalistas have no concept of appearance and the value of projecting yourself ? I expect you think by that criteria the Queen should have wore her dressing gown and slippers

[LeazesMag 0]

"That's it - one inappropriate choice of coat in an age when image is all that counts and a man is dismissed.

 

Pathetic."

 

No - it was because it really summed Foot up - out of touch with people, sunk in his own intellectual world and incapable of doing anything but repeat the mantras of the PLP going back to 1910

 

Remember when he ran against Thatcher the Labour party Manifesto was described as "the longest suicide note in history" and that was by tehir own side

 

Crikey. That is right Rob. Well said. He was mad as a box of frogs, to use Rentons phrase ........

[NJS 4375]

Like it or lump it. There are certain things you have to do in life, and a prime minister or potential PM should be seen to uphold his office, not dress like a fuckin tramp on such an occasion as that. It's all about class, and he was a disgrace to everybody in the Labour Party and every Labour voter.

 

Why do you left wing sandalistas have no concept of appearance and the value of projecting yourself ? I expect you think by that criteria the Queen should have wore her dressing gown and slippers

 

Typical old generation crap - a man can do anything as long as he wears a nice tie - I'd rather care about what he says and does.

 

The Queen should just be shot along with the rest of her family - I don't care what she wears to be honest.

[LeazesMag 0]

Like it or lump it. There are certain things you have to do in life, and a prime minister or potential PM should be seen to uphold his office, not dress like a fuckin tramp on such an occasion as that. It's all about class, and he was a disgrace to everybody in the Labour Party and every Labour voter.

 

Why do you left wing sandalistas have no concept of appearance and the value of projecting yourself ? I expect you think by that criteria the Queen should have wore her dressing gown and slippers

 

Typical old generation crap - a man can do anything as long as he wears a nice tie - I'd rather care about what he says and does.

 

The Queen should just be shot along with the rest of her family - I don't care what she wears to be honest.

 

it's standards mate. Standards. Discipline of life, the same as you can't go around saying what you like and hide behind "freedom of speech" when heckling British soldiers doing what they signed up to do for instance, because nobody has 100% freedom of speech, you have to show respect and courtesy to others and rules in life.

 

It's you who is stuck in a time warp, you should have thrown away this teenage mentality [i can go to work in flip flops so long as I do my job etc] years ago.

 

Do YOU wear what you want to work ie dress slovenly, or stick to your companies established dress code [assuming they have one]

[NJS 4375]

Do YOU wear what you want to work ie dress slovenly, or stick to your companies established dress code [assuming they have one]

 

I do but I nornally dress reasonably smartly anyway without going overboard and yes my bosses do care about what I do not what I wear.

 

The fact is nobody would have even commented on Foot's coat if The Sun hadn't gone with "look at this tramp in his donkey jacket" - I'll bet you don't remember the coat - just the "Scandal" that accompanied it.

 

I'll bet I could find photos of Churchill wearing similar coats but he was a "statesman" so nobody ever had a go.

[LeazesMag 0]

Do YOU wear what you want to work ie dress slovenly, or stick to your companies established dress code [assuming they have one]

 

I do but I nornally dress reasonably smartly anyway without going overboard and yes my bosses do care about what I do not what I wear.

 

The fact is nobody would have even commented on Foot's coat if The Sun hadn't gone with "look at this tramp in his donkey jacket" - I'll bet you don't remember the coat - just the "Scandal" that accompanied it.

 

I'll bet I could find photos of Churchill wearing similar coats but he was a "statesman" so nobody ever had a go.

 

 

Sorry, but I have no idea what the Sun said about it.

 

They were my own thoughts, especially if you actually ever go to the Cenotaph and realise the significance and emotion of the day and what it means to people.

 

Not a day for anti west or anti war ideology mind.

[Meenzer 15449]

Wasn't even a donkey jacket either.

[tooner 243]

Like it or lump it. There are certain things you have to do in life, and a prime minister or potential PM should be seen to uphold his office, not dress like a fuckin tramp on such an occasion as that. It's all about class, and he was a disgrace to everybody in the Labour Party and every Labour voter.

 

Why do you left wing sandalistas have no concept of appearance and the value of projecting yourself ? I expect you think by that criteria the Queen should have wore her dressing gown and slippers

 

Typical old generation crap - a man can do anything as long as he wears a nice tie - I'd rather care about what he says and does.

 

The Queen should just be shot along with the rest of her family - I don't care what she wears to be honest.

 

it's standards mate. Standards. Discipline of life, the same as you can't go around saying what you like and hide behind "freedom of speech" when heckling British soldiers doing what they signed up to do for instance, because nobody has 100% freedom of speech, you have to show respect and courtesy to others and rules in life.

 

It's you who is stuck in a time warp, you should have thrown away this teenage mentality [i can go to work in flip flops so long as I do my job etc] years ago.

 

Do YOU wear what you want to work ie dress slovenly, or stick to your companies established dress code [assuming they have one]

 

when will you stop ......it's been proven you have no idea what the actual rules for freedom of speech are...let it go

[Renton 21404]

Interesting geologist who worked on oil finding missions in the Falklands previously, when they extracted a massive - TWO litres - of oil. Anyway, this provided proof of concept, but the best case scenario is that they can extract 390 billion barrels out of the Falklands, but there is only about 10% chance of this. To put this find into perspective, the world would use that much oil in 4 days.

[snakehips 0]

Like it or lump it. There are certain things you have to do in life, and a prime minister or potential PM should be seen to uphold his office, not dress like a fuckin tramp on such an occasion as that. It's all about class, and he was a disgrace to everybody in the Labour Party and every Labour voter.

 

Why do you left wing sandalistas have no concept of appearance and the value of projecting yourself ? I expect you think by that criteria the Queen should have wore her dressing gown and slippers

 

Typical old generation crap - a man can do anything as long as he wears a nice tie - I'd rather care about what he says and does.

 

The Queen should just be shot along with the rest of her family - I don't care what she wears to be honest.

 

Foot's donkey jacket was exactly the same as New Labour's edict to get rid of the 'tash. Image. It's the voters, and their opinion what matters utimately.

 

As an aside, I'm fairly sure Foot first got into Parliament in the '47 (?) election by defeating Winston Churchill's son in, Plymouth was it?? (some shithole on the south coast. Mind you, aren't they all?)

[LeazesMag 0]

Like it or lump it. There are certain things you have to do in life, and a prime minister or potential PM should be seen to uphold his office, not dress like a fuckin tramp on such an occasion as that. It's all about class, and he was a disgrace to everybody in the Labour Party and every Labour voter.

 

Why do you left wing sandalistas have no concept of appearance and the value of projecting yourself ? I expect you think by that criteria the Queen should have wore her dressing gown and slippers

 

Typical old generation crap - a man can do anything as long as he wears a nice tie - I'd rather care about what he says and does.

 

The Queen should just be shot along with the rest of her family - I don't care what she wears to be honest.

 

Foot's donkey jacket was exactly the same as New Labour's edict to get rid of the 'tash. Image. It's the voters, and their opinion what matters utimately.

 

As an aside, I'm fairly sure Foot first got into Parliament in the '47 (?) election by defeating Winston Churchill's son in, Plymouth was it?? (some shithole on the south coast. Mind you, aren't they all?)

 

Toonraider will be after you ........

[LeazesMag 0]

Like it or lump it. There are certain things you have to do in life, and a prime minister or potential PM should be seen to uphold his office, not dress like a fuckin tramp on such an occasion as that. It's all about class, and he was a disgrace to everybody in the Labour Party and every Labour voter.

 

Why do you left wing sandalistas have no concept of appearance and the value of projecting yourself ? I expect you think by that criteria the Queen should have wore her dressing gown and slippers

 

Typical old generation crap - a man can do anything as long as he wears a nice tie - I'd rather care about what he says and does.

 

The Queen should just be shot along with the rest of her family - I don't care what she wears to be honest.

 

Foot's donkey jacket was exactly the same as New Labour's edict to get rid of the 'tash. Image. It's the voters, and their opinion what matters utimately.

 

 

 

the stupid cunt, probably thought he was still at college