Scottish Mag 3 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 So is there going to be a specific explanation then for the banning Nope... Alright then. Rest my case. Cool, is that it all sorted then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I expect the delay whilst waiting for their approval will be used to edit some of your posts in the thread. A little dickie bird told me something last week which suggests Craig is telling the truth about it being fairly unanimous and something that's been building for a while tbf to him. Fair enough, but there's only one of them loving the opportunity to patronise the board members on the issue. I think he just takes it to heart tbh. Plus, you're basically calling him a liar with nothing to back that up. You'd defend yourself too, wouldn't you if the positions were reversed? Thanks Alex. As for the others, theres no patronising going on, I'm merely trying to explain what's gone on and why without going into unnecessary detail. The others haven't on account that most aren't on here at the moment and those that are are probably seeing the backlash that's happening and can't be arsed with it - I don't blame them either. if people want to run their own forum with the own rules then they can do so otherwise STFU Come back when've caught up with everything son... You're remarkably sensitive considering the nature of the member who you're defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Fuck sake people. Either you're bored at work or you really need to get a grip. Someone was banned from an internet forum! Stop the fucking press..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Fuck sake people. Either you're bored at work or you really need to get a grip. Someone was banned from an internet forum! Stop the fucking press..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 and the world kept turning...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Expand on posts being altered? Such as the raft of posts that got deleted from the Keegan thread a while back. Just like here..... I can't wait to hear you expand further on this one http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...0&start=120 Posts were deleted from this thread Strange how it is thought of being the most entertaining thread of the day when there was "nothing" posted on it? Which posts specifically?? i.e. about what?? Or are you being deliberately vague? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaMoUsE 0 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) jesus, like busses all at once Edited February 11, 2010 by JaMoUsE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Expand on posts being altered? Such as the raft of posts that got deleted from the Keegan thread a while back. Just like here..... I can't wait to hear you expand further on this one http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...0&start=120 Posts were deleted from this thread Strange how it is thought of being the most entertaining thread of the day when there was "nothing" posted on it? OMG Have you informed Wikileaks? Perhaps they can unearth the redacted material. We're through the looking glass here people. SARCMARK!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 So is there going to be a specific explanation then for the banning Nope... Alright then. Rest my case. Cool, is that it all sorted then I'm liking the fact that we're 'Hitleresque' yet in the next breath we're being asked to disclose a provate thread that at least one of the contributors are not happy to have disclosed. Can't have it both ways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) Expand on posts being altered? Such as the raft of posts that got deleted from the Keegan thread a while back. Just like here..... I can't wait to hear you expand further on this one http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...0&start=120 Posts were deleted from this thread Strange how it is thought of being the most entertaining thread of the day when there was "nothing" posted on it? Which posts specifically?? i.e. about what?? Or are you being deliberately vague? Not deliberately vague because I don't know the exact details but I remember you telling me what I should and should not post on here. When I questioned this, the posts mysteriously vanished. Not making a big deal out of it, just pointing out you have previous tbh Edited February 11, 2010 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Expand on posts being altered? Such as the raft of posts that got deleted from the Keegan thread a while back. Just like here..... I can't wait to hear you expand further on this one http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...0&start=120 Posts were deleted from this thread Strange how it is thought of being the most entertaining thread of the day when there was "nothing" posted on it? OMG Have you informed Wikileaks? Perhaps they can unearth the redacted material. We're through the looking glass here people. SARCMARK!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Expand on posts being altered? Such as the raft of posts that got deleted from the Keegan thread a while back. Just like here..... I can't wait to hear you expand further on this one http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...0&start=120 Posts were deleted from this thread Strange how it is thought of being the most entertaining thread of the day when there was "nothing" posted on it? Which posts specifically?? i.e. about what?? Or are you being deliberately vague? Not deliberately vague because I don't know the exact details but I remember you telling me what I should and should not post on here. When I questioned this, the posts mysteriously vanished. Absolute bollocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 A sign of an internet forum outgrowing its owners tbf. There is a certain group of people who contribute regularly to a very amusing and interesting general chat forum. The admin team are way down that list if at all in some cases. Im sure you well know its hard for a group of people who enjoy a bit of daily banter to simply up and move to another forum. That is why so many are pissed at a childish decision to remove an entertaining poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30678 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Im sure you well know its hard for a group of people who enjoy a bit of daily banter to simply up and move to another forum. That is why so many are pissed at a childish decision to remove an entertaining poster. Well if Stevie was in favour of Muslims fucking off to their own country where they could obey their own laws then I'm sure he'll see why it's okay for him to be told to fuck off to another forum. FTR, I reckon he'll be a miss to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 A sign of an internet forum outgrowing its owners tbf. There is a certain group of people who contribute regularly to a very amusing and interesting general chat forum. The admin team are way down that list if at all in some cases. Bit rich coming from you however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) A sign of an internet forum outgrowing its owners tbf. There is a certain group of people who contribute regularly to a very amusing and interesting general chat forum. The admin team are way down that list if at all in some cases. Im sure you well know its hard for a group of people who enjoy a bit of daily banter to simply up and move to another forum. That is why so many are pissed at a childish decision to remove an entertaining poster. Sima, Insider and Jamouse "very amusing" and "interesting"? Fuck off! Which board are you reading? EDIT: Edited February 11, 2010 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 A sign of an internet forum outgrowing its owners tbf. There is a certain group of people who contribute regularly to a very amusing and interesting general chat forum. The admin team are way down that list if at all in some cases. Im sure you well know its hard for a group of people who enjoy a bit of daily banter to simply up and move to another forum. That is why so many are pissed at a childish decision to remove an entertaining poster. Like I said CT if you want to go and build your own forum you're quite welcome to do so. The same people who made the decision are the same people who put the forum together in the first place and gave you, Stevie and everyone else the opportunity to post here. Damn them that they might want to manage the place as well as provide it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2653 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Going by some of the posts in this thread perhaps someone should merge this with the End Of The World thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Its like an episode of Judge Judy in here FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4774 Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 do you know, I wish I'd never started this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Good god, what a fucking drama, he's been banned, it was a collective decision but all in all the person who had the biggest influence in the outcome was Stevie himself, after warning after warning he continued to push and push, and eventually he got the reaction that I'm convinced he was looking for. I'm so happy that so many people have so little things to worry about in their lives that they can get is such a tizzy over this, seriously its time some fuckers got a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) A sign of an internet forum outgrowing its owners tbf. There is a certain group of people who contribute regularly to a very amusing and interesting general chat forum. The admin team are way down that list if at all in some cases. Im sure you well know its hard for a group of people who enjoy a bit of daily banter to simply up and move to another forum. That is why so many are pissed at a childish decision to remove an entertaining poster. Like I said CT if you want to go and build your own forum you're quite welcome to do so. The same people who made the decision are the same people who put the forum together in the first place and gave you, Stevie and everyone else the opportunity to post here. Damn them that they might want to manage the place as well as provide it.... So basically if you don't like it, fuck off? Are you willing to accept any kind of debate? Maybe a warning system should be put in place and displayed under usernames on the forum just so people know why people have been banned? At least then people can see that other members have been warned. Edited February 11, 2010 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30678 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 So basically if you don't like it, fuck off? Are you willing to accept any kind of debate? Maybe a warning system should be put in place and displayed under usernames on the forum just so people know why people have been banned? I think you're confusing this place with a democracy, it's not. Nor should it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Craig you were being a nob to Stevie tbf. What was the point in attacking him for quoting a line from a TV show, even if you knew it was such? Get a life? Come back when've caught up with everything son... I've read this forum for a long time, son, but a typical condescending reply from yourself from up there on the horse. Stevie is one of only a small selection of local posters on here and is pretty well liked, he goes close to the line sometimes but if you come down on stuff like that too hard you just end up with Newcastle Online, which is frankly unbearable. If you've read it for a long time then I put you in the 'need you head examined' category that I referred to earlier. Stevie well liked? Well I've had a multitude of PMs that counter that claim. I don't doubt that some like him but definitely not all. Anyway regardless of whether he's liked or not, he's continually transgressed (NOT as you put it 'goes close to the line sometimes') and despite being asked to cut out certain aspects of his posting, he's continued effectively sticking 2 fingers up to those who manage the place and attempt to keep order. That's not just me btw. As one member said earlier to me, if people want to run their own forum with the own rules then they can do so otherwise STFU and that they've often thought to themselves 'What must some people think' who are just browsing as guests etc. A bit embarrassing really from that standpoint. Especially if you realise people from other clubs, the media etc. will be reading messageboards from time to time. As for ending up like N-O, this is only the second person who has been removed from TT in almost 5 years. It's hardly like we've got a 'forum of the banned'. Anyway - he's gone. Get over it. You obviously didn't take my criticism of being condescending seriously by opening your post with that. What a prick honestly. I've seen how all the other admins/mods go about their business and I've seen you and there's a massive difference. Telling people to STFU who disagree with the banning is out of line as well. You know he's done fuck all wrong when you have to refer to past discrepancies to justify the ban to people mate. Why don't you read my post correctly and then come back and have another go? I was paraphrasing.... It was the comment of someone else but that's not to say I don't agree with it. Massive difference? How so? Because I come out and publically defend the decision of the team? ... and come across as a right snotty P.C cock in doing such. Why don't you move this magical Stevie thread over from the admin forum and let us all read it? I fully expect you won't because it'll pretty much expose how 100% in favour of it you were, and how the other admins probably reluctantly agreed in the end. I fully expect we wont either because it's a mods thread, to be viewed by mods & admin's only. As for it all being Craig and we all reluctantly gave gave in to his demands? bollocks. Stevie had been on borrowed time for a while really. Several members of the mod & admin teams have requested that he be banned, for various things and to the frustration of many - he wasn't. I'll hold my hands up and admit to being one of those who probably added to that frustration by explaining away his transgression. Usually as I'd ask myself 'Would we ban someone else for this too, or does this just feel worse because it's Stevie(again)'. For the record, I was no fan Stevie either, but I'm the sort of person who tries to view all sides and in my capacity as Admin I look at any issue in isolation rather than give much weight to 'previous'. Thing is though, there's only so many times you can do that before you think to yourself, 'hang on, why are we having this conversation AGAIN. There's a pattern here.' Stevie was a repeat offender for the same offences. There are very few rules on here and as has been explained on here before (ironically, the last time we banned Stevie) we're pretty relaxed; which for me is one of the reasons I like this place. If this were NO, Stevie would not have lasted as long as he did as they would not have been so tolerant. Saying that is a moot point really, as IIRC Stevie was banned from NO. On that point, we have a number of members on here who have been banned from NO for lesser crimes than Stevie was banned from here for; and they post on here without incident. For the record - people don't get banned on here 'cos we dont like them. There are a few members on here I'm no fan of and I'm sure some of you feel the same about me; but you know what? that's fine (although when I track you down I will ban you!!! mwahahahaha ) [/ end subconscious thoughts]. As Craig has pointed out already, this is only the 2nd poster we have ever banned, so it's not like we do it often and given the amount of discussion prior to it, it certainly was no quick thing. This place pretty much runs itself because most people can keep to those few rules and that's great because I have better things to do than have discussions about who to ban etc. In the end, with Stevie I personally started to feel that he was always pushing to see how far he'd get before one of us would bite. I have a 2yr old son who does that. He know's he doing something wrong, but just as he's about to do it; he stops & takes a quick look around to see if anyone will tell him off The difference is, Stevie is a grown man not a toddler. In all the time I've been an admin, I've never had to talk about any other member as much as I've talked about Stevie. In fact, other than Stevie & DannyB I don't think I've had to offer an opinion on any other member. What does that tell you? For his faults, Stevie did contribute to this forum and that was one of the reasons he lasted as long as he did. But unfortunately some of the good stuff he contributed seemed to lose it's value by the manner in which he gave it imo. Lastly, for the record (it's a 12" this one isn't it?) it wasn't Craig who banned him. Stevie's gone, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I can understand the boards position and wouldn't like the task of dealing with a bunch or reprobates on a dailiy basis but banning anyone still doesn't sit easily with me. I hope there's a way back from this because I've seen this kind of thing happen elsewhere and it can be a complete pisser for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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