Deano 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Credit where credit is due, he has knitted a loose squad together, got on with things when it would of been easy to get distracted and has identified decent signings within this window. He has got us to the top of the championship with a mediocre side and a small squad on team spirit alone and a little bit of luck but now is where it gets difficult...has he got what it takes? Normally a very placid personality but to me it has recently become quite apparent that he is starting to twitch, frustration is kreeping in and he is constantly looking to Calderwood for guidance. Worryingly i remember reading not to long ago how he went to the likes of Geremi and Butt for advice on team affairs...not really a strong leader-type character really. We have got this far and to most it is arguably suprising we are still sitting top, just shows that we are a shit side in an absolutely shit league...its not a measure of how good we are or have been its the cut of the league why we are 1st. In my eyes, the squad we have is OK, one capable of winning this league, one capable of turning over most sides in this league home and away, but the reason why we have been shite all season solely rests on the not so broad shoulders of Mr Hughton. The team can only go out there and do what they have been told, a good player cant look shit if played within a restricted role in the team and i think this is what is happening with us, over-cautious tactics. But for me the biggest problem we have is Hughtons complete lack of balls in making decisions, decisions mainly to do with accomodating wank players in the side just because of there "Big personality" or "Vast experience" By this i think you all know i mean Butt, Nolan and Shola and to some extent Taylor and Carroll. The latter two imo should be in this side, they are players who are important but they need to be playing in a side with little restriction, a side thats aloud to use there confidence to go and hammer teams rather than scrape a "valuable" 3 points. Most on here are pretty knowledgable and most agree on what should be our starting line-up week in week out. We all know we have a pretty decent back four when fit which writes itself on the team sheet, and with the addition of Williamson it can onlt get stronger, although now with injuries its time to step up. Midfield is the biggest area where Hughton gets it wrong, over cautious and negative, the midfield is the heart of your team, where our football is started and when we have a lopsided four which cloggers galore is it any wonder our strikers are looking shit? Butt should be a million miles away from the 1st team, its a huge worry that Hughton thinks he is still good enough. Nolan is wank, no legs, no vision and no goals of late, should only be used sparingly away from home behind the front man. I think if we went with the following we would see alot more chances created and a chance for our strikers to actually hit some form. Its not rocket science Hughton...sort your fuckin self out man you cockney thick cunt. ---Harper--- ---Simpson---Williamson---Coloccini---Enrique--- ---Routledge--Guthrie---Smith--Jonas--- ---Carroll---Ranger--- This is looking ahead to when Simpson and Enrique are back in 3 weeks time....That there is the team that should push on and win this league for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'd be interested in seeing how we get on with 433 if we insist on playing Smith and Nolan all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 completely agree about Butt at least, the fact he seems no better in this division whereas Smith and Nolan have looked half decent says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 First of all the guy deserves a pat on the back because what he's managed to do so far this season is no short of a miracle. I expected us to be in the championship for at least two seasons struggling to attract players and losing them in every direction. He's created unity and passion (finally) for the badge. For the players, we're nowhere near prem standard. Hughton has worked wonders in the market over past month, with williamson looking v strong at the back and routledge looking like been the best attacking midfielder we've had for a long time. His pace is just what we need in the middle of the park, and looks to have a final ball but I got the impression yesterday against leicester that no-one was passing it to him on the right in the 2nd half (bit like when duff joined) and he seemed to have to go find the ball. Aalholt seems like a potential for the future, granted he's only with us for a month but seems strong. Different player in the 2nd half as he was v nervy to begin with and wouldnt move up the field to attack in 1st. 2nd was a different player and has a hell of a left foot! We need more though. No-one is gonna like this, but in my opinion (with the exception of ranger) we need to sell all our strikers in the summer and start afresh. Too many years now we've tried to make it work with the big strong forward up front and it doesnt work! Since Shearer we've had no-one. We need to look at other options up front, the rooney or van persie type but not the big lanky Carrol who is useless. Sick of watching the looong ball forward every other minute. Cannot wait for Mr Barton to return so that finally we'll have some vision in the middle of the park spreading it one side to the other. My line-up would be: HARPER SIMPSON -------- TAYLOR --------COLO---------ENRIQUE GUTHRIE LOVENKRANDS---------- ROUTLEDGE------------------JONAS RANGER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Playing with 10 men would be suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Playing with 10 men would be suicidal. haha completely forgot Mr Barton. Lovenkrands moving alongside Ranger and Barton slotting in the middle with Routledge moving to the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 My line-up would be: HARPER SIMPSON -------- TAYLOR --------COLO---------ENRIQUE GUTHRIE LOVENKRANDS---------- ROUTLEDGE------------------JONAS RANGER You're a tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4947 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 LT no offence, but you really are a tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 top of the league with a bad team and still you fucking whinge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 top of the league with a bad team and still you fucking whinge. Because its painfull...are you happy with the way we are playing? We are shit man....you mite not have any standards but im pretty sure most of us do and arent happy with whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4947 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 well is it really too much to ask for a decent performance once in a while? if we're looking to have a chance of staying up next season (assuming something drastic doesnt happen in summer) we need to actually beat this league well rather than scraping through every match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 well is it really too much to ask for a decent performance once in a while? if we're looking to have a chance of staying up next season (assuming something drastic doesnt happen in summer) we need to actually beat this league well rather than scraping through every match Exactly my point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I could not give a fuck as long as we get up. Playing bad aye, look shit aye top of the league aye. Did not think we would be anywhere near here so I'm over the moon. Swansea, QPR play nice football would you swap? if answer no, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 The bloke's spineless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 agree, but we are top of the league. should we change our manager? tactics? players? why so we look good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 agree, but we are top of the league. should we change our manager? tactics? players? why so we look good? Were you born in bolton? Id imagine you are a fan of Alladyce and Souness as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Don't see what the obsession is with Ranger tbh. Nothing more than a poor man's Ameobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Don't see what the obsession is with Ranger tbh. Nothing more than a poor man's Ameobi Nar. I think he's got more awareness than Shola (which isn't hard) and he's better at holding the ball up and linking up play. He just doesn't have that killer instinct in front of goal, something which I don't think he'll ever have but with the right coaching he'll be a decent player for us. Although will he fuck get the right coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Don't see what the obsession is with Ranger tbh. Nothing more than a poor man's Ameobi Unproven yes but like any player he needs a consistent run of games in order for him to settle and improve. IMO Carroll and Ranger would offer us the most out of any possible pairing upfront with that we have. But like iv said already Hughton doesnt have the balls to drop "Big personality" players. The fact shola is carrying a knock may force his hand but he is still going to resort to Nolan and Carroll or Lovenkrands and Carroll, the latter partnership would be my second choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 ---Harper--- ---Simpson---Williamson---Coloccini---Enrique--- ---Routledge--Guthrie---Smith--Jonas--- ---Carroll---Ranger--- This is looking ahead to when Simpson and Enrique are back in 3 weeks time....That there is the team that should push on and win this league for us. That's pretty much the way I would start a game if all were fit, and on the bench I would have; Krul. Lovenkrands. Kadar. Raylor Lua Lua. If Barton were ready I'd put him in for Smith who is off the boil at the moment. Don't know about new signing Hall. I would have to be desperate to consider Butt, Nolan, Pancrate, and Ameobe. The Dutch boy looked good but he's only on loan for a month but a decent fill-in until Enrique is back. Looking forward, maybe Williamson and Saylor could form a better partnership than Colo & Saylor, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 ---Harper--- ---Simpson---Williamson---Coloccini---Enrique--- ---Routledge--Guthrie---Smith--Jonas--- ---Carroll---Ranger--- This is looking ahead to when Simpson and Enrique are back in 3 weeks time....That there is the team that should push on and win this league for us. That's pretty much the way I would start a game if all were fit, and on the bench I would have; Krul. Lovenkrands. Kadar. Raylor Lua Lua. If Barton were ready I'd put him in for Smith who is off the boil at the moment. Don't know about new signing Hall. I would have to be desperate to consider Butt, Nolan, Pancrate, and Ameobe. The Dutch boy looked good but he's only on loan for a month but a decent fill-in until Enrique is back. Looking forward, maybe Williamson and Saylor could form a better partnership than Colo & Saylor, maybe? We get 7 subs these days Noelie...krul, Hall, Van Aanholt, Raylor, Barton, Lovenkrands and Shola. As for your point on Saylor and Willy...i actually would like to see that next season, i had my doubts and i know its early days but Williamson looks similar to Woodgate in his style of play...could be a very good partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 ---Harper--- ---Simpson---Williamson---Coloccini---Enrique--- ---Routledge--Guthrie---Smith--Jonas--- ---Carroll---Ranger--- This is looking ahead to when Simpson and Enrique are back in 3 weeks time....That there is the team that should push on and win this league for us. That's pretty much the way I would start a game if all were fit, and on the bench I would have; Krul. Lovenkrands. Kadar. Raylor Lua Lua. If Barton were ready I'd put him in for Smith who is off the boil at the moment. Don't know about new signing Hall. I would have to be desperate to consider Butt, Nolan, Pancrate, and Ameobe. The Dutch boy looked good but he's only on loan for a month but a decent fill-in until Enrique is back. Looking forward, maybe Williamson and Saylor could form a better partnership than Colo & Saylor, maybe? We get 7 subs these days Noelie...krul, Hall, Van Aanholt, Raylor, Barton, Lovenkrands and Shola. I know that Sport but you can only use 3 so I went with Krul as a must in case of injury to Harper. Lovenkrands as cover for up front and wide positions. Kadar as cover for anywhere in the back four. Raylor as cover for right back and wide right. Lua Lua because he looks lively and full of promise and cover for any attacking position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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