Deano 0 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Should he be in the side? What does he bring to the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Should he be in the side? What does he bring to the team? decent player in this league, would probably only be a premier league struggler at best these days mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7717 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Needs a rest to rivitalise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22361 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 at this level he bring goals. in the premier league he brings little, as we saw last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Only when playing off the front man. With our new winger we now have options. However his goal tally shows that he can win us a game. But not the best of form at the moment like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11037 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Bit of a leading question though, I'd start him againt some teams but others might allow a greater deal of freedom meaning we could comfortably play a more fluid attacking formation. 10 goals is not a bad haul for a midfielder, at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 isn't an orthodox central midfielder. slow, one footed and not very creative but does get into goalscoring positions. nowhere near good enough for the premier league in my opinion. best played at the front of a midfield diamond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 isn't an orthodox central midfielder. slow, one footed and not very creative but does get into goalscoring positions. nowhere near good enough for the premier league in my opinion. best played at the front of a midfield diamond. Best used in a 4.5.1 so he has two midfielders covering the ground for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4945 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 not as a normal CM needs to keep scoring to justify what little else he does in a match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 I voted NO.. On the basis he brings nothing to the team when played in CM. However when he is played behind the frontman he does get into goalscoring positions. Id only start him away in tough games and ONLY behind the striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Insider Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Nob jockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Insider Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The age-old drop-your-top-scorer-from-your-team-when-top-of-the-league method, deployed by top managers worldwide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 @ Insider....safe to say you opinion is shaired by the majority. I still think he isnt good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 He's had a shit and pretty anonymous month if he's honest with himself. Forgot he was playing a couple of times the game passed him by so much. Hopefully a blip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 He's had a shit and pretty anonymous month if he's honest with himself. Forgot he was playing a couple of times the game passed him by so much. Hopefully a blip. He's been like that all season tbf. But because he's been scoring people haven't been commenting as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 He's so anonymous he needs to score to even justify his place and his purple patch in terms of goals was never going to continue. No chance of Hughton leaving him out though and I suppose there aren't that many other options. Smith hasn't been much better of late either btw and even though Guthrie has the excuse of being played out of position he's been woeful too. Butt is finished as well. Would like to see Barton and Guthrie in CM ideally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 He's so anonymous he needs to score to even justify his place and his purple patch in terms of goals was never going to continue. No chance of Hughton leaving him out though and I suppose there aren't that many other options. Smith hasn't been much better of late either btw and even though Guthrie has the excuse of being played out of position he's been woeful too. Butt is finished as well. Would like to see Barton and Guthrie in CM ideally. Pretty much agree, Nolan's goals will have played a massive part in promotion should we go up so i think he deserves credit for that, but as a midfielder the game just passes him by and in the prem he will be far worse. Smith has went right of the boil and is now becoming anoymous himself and good or bad in a match you don't expect Smith to just disappear from the game. Guthrie i always find hard to judge as he so clearly hates being out wide and is not suited to it at all, but he should have done better than he has, and as everyone on here and in St James knows, Butt was finished last season never mind this! So i'd say Nolan is bad, but if we go up his contribution will have actually been big simply because of the goals and little else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 He's so anonymous he needs to score to even justify his place and his purple patch in terms of goals was never going to continue. No chance of Hughton leaving him out though and I suppose there aren't that many other options. Smith hasn't been much better of late either btw and even though Guthrie has the excuse of being played out of position he's been woeful too. Butt is finished as well. Would like to see Barton and Guthrie in CM ideally. Pretty much agree, Nolan's goals will have played a massive part in promotion should we go up so i think he deserves credit for that, but as a midfielder the game just passes him by and in the prem he will be far worse. Smith has went right of the boil and is now becoming anoymous himself and good or bad in a match you don't expect Smith to just disappear from the game. Guthrie i always find hard to judge as he so clearly hates being out wide and is not suited to it at all, but he should have done better than he has, and as everyone on here and in St James knows, Butt was finished last season never mind this! So i'd say Nolan is bad, but if we go up his contribution will have actually been big simply because of the goals and little else. 100% Spot on! Id like to see Guthrie and Smith given 5 games together with Jonas and Rouledge on the wings...that midfield SHOULD create chance from out wide and through the middle. When Barton has returned to fitness id like to see him in there with Smith for a few games...we have a couple of options but for as long as hughton insists on accomodating the likes of Butt and Nolan we wont see any improvements in our performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think Smith gives you even less than Nolan who at least has an eye for goal. He's living off his early season form imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nortoon 0 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 at the end of the day Smith is just a defensive midfielder and Nolan is an attacking midfielder. In the top flight we need players who can actually be effective box-to-box midfielders. I still think both they and Guthrie are good enough to be squad players in a bottom 10 side. Gettiing in an actual good 10m-ish signing in central midfield is going to be extremely important to surviving the premier league, though i cant see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3609 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Where's the fiddy option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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