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More unforced errors / unnecessary risk-taking / temper tantrums / penalties (although a bit harsh) for our Spanish friend again this weekend.

 

I wonder if he sees a sports psychologist?

 

He's only half the driver he used to be since Hamilton did a number on him in 2007. It would be sad to see if he wasn't such a mahoosive wanker :unsure:

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More unforced errors / unnecessary risk-taking / temper tantrums / penalties (although a bit harsh) for our Spanish friend again this weekend.

 

I wonder if he sees a sports psychologist?

 

He's only half the driver he used to be since Hamilton did a number on him in 2007. It would be sad to see if he wasn't such a mahoosive wanker :unsure:

 

I can remember reading an article in Autosport a few years ago, when Alonso and Raikkonen were breaking through. It was titled 'Fire and Ice' and it was about their respective personalities, and how Kimi, despite being from Scandi stock was all emotion and instinct whereas Fernando, despite being Latin, was a cool, calculating, machine.

 

That cool, calculating side seems to have gone completely out the window, and his anger and frustration is affecting his decision-making and therefore driving ability.

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More unforced errors / unnecessary risk-taking / temper tantrums / penalties (although a bit harsh) for our Spanish friend again this weekend.

 

I wonder if he sees a sports psychologist?

 

He's only half the driver he used to be since Hamilton did a number on him in 2007. It would be sad to see if he wasn't such a mahoosive wanker :unsure:

 

I can remember reading an article in Autosport a few years ago, when Alonso and Raikkonen were breaking through. It was titled 'Fire and Ice' and it was about their respective personalities, and how Kimi, despite being from Scandi stock was all emotion and instinct whereas Fernando, despite being Latin, was a cool, calculating, machine.

 

That cool, calculating side seems to have gone completely out the window, and his anger and frustration is effecting his decision-making and therefore driving ability.

 

The article was very wrong, Kimi is one of the most stereotypical Scandanavians I've seen :razz:

 

kimi-icecream-man.jpg

 

I hope he's back in the sport next year.

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He's doing rally driving at the moment isn't he? I bet it was fun in his garage today. Webber made a point at the end of the race, and he should get more support from Red Bull. Won't happen though. I think the McLaren did surprisingly well, and will catch up with the Red Bull when the blown diffuser and all those improvements come online.

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More unforced errors / unnecessary risk-taking / temper tantrums / penalties (although a bit harsh) for our Spanish friend again this weekend.

 

I wonder if he sees a sports psychologist?

 

Ferrari always get preferential treatment though. :unsure:

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More unforced errors / unnecessary risk-taking / temper tantrums / penalties (although a bit harsh) for our Spanish friend again this weekend.

 

I wonder if he sees a sports psychologist?

 

He's only half the driver he used to be since Hamilton did a number on him in 2007. It would be sad to see if he wasn't such a mahoosive wanker :unsure:

 

I actually like the bloke. There's rarely a GP goes by where there's not something he does that doesn't make me laugh. He has the latin temprement which IMO has been largely missing in the sport in the last couple of decades. Montoya had it but that's about it. Senna also had it if people cast their minds back.

 

How many drivers tell their engineers to basically STFU half-way through a race? Evidentally was spitting acid and didn't want to say something in the heat of the moment which would go public but all the same :razz:

 

FWIW I think he's on a level playing field with Hamilton but the pair of them are streets ahead of the rest on talent. Most people forget that Hamilton only beat him by a single point in 2007 - the 'doing a number on him' belief is skewed somewhat by the fact that Hamilton far exceeded expectation in 2007 rather than Alonso under performing.

 

In other matters I almost fucking wet myself when Vettel went for his excursion on the first lap. Primarily not about Vettel himself, although I don't like him much but because of the Red Bull team. I hope their Constructors Championship challenge implodes and Webber walks the title. Not favouring Vettel? Yeah fucking right!

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For all they can be a bit uppity at times (I'm looking at you, Eddie Jordan), I'll give the Beeb credit for not holding back in asking the right questions of the Red Bull, Ferrari etc. people today.

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Totally agree - EJ's grilling of Christian Horner was brilliant. "Disagree with me if you like Christian but your message of congratulations to Mark was anything but genuine".

 

Horner didn't know what to say because Eddie was right on the money.

 

And another thing, why did it have to be an issue at all? Vettel's front wing failed on Friday, they had 24 hours to get a replacement..... and the factory is in Milton Keynes! :unsure:

 

Kinda makes a mockery of that incident a few races ago (I forget the venue) when Horner himself was making a big thing about how one of the team had got parts and driven halfway across the globe to get them there in time for qualifying. Explain that one Red Bull!

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And another thing, it ultimately highlights a massive failure in management by Horner.

 

Before the weekend, apparently Adrian Newey insisted that the new wing be raced. Following the incident with the wing on Vettel's car, Newey is said to have be unmoved in his insistance giving Horner the task of choosing the driver that would run with it.

 

Surely a massive example of the tail wagging the dog as Horner, as team principle should have the authority (and bolllocks quite frankly) to say "Sorry Adrian, you're not getting your way, both drivers will run with the old wing." - particularly when you consider the issues that have already be apparent within the team this season.

 

They had a choice of 4 options to take:

 

1) Get the factory to manufacture a replacement new wing

2) Tell Vettel that it's hard lines, he'll have to race with the existing wing

3) Tell both drivers they're using the existing wing (considering they're far and away ahead of the rest anyway)

4) Make the contraversial decision to give Webber's wing to Vettel.

 

I'm amazed they took the last option and even more so that they're trying to justify it and deny it's a display of favouritism. If it was at the end of the season you can understand it, but at the mid-point? Fuck right off man!

 

Mark's got my vote for the title now :unsure:

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Rumour has it Helmut Marko is making Horner's job extremely difficult due to the sway he has at RBR and the fact he dislikes Mark Webber.

 

All the more reason I hope Webber slam dunks the title then. If he dislikes Webber so much why the hell did they re-sign him for 2011 when Raikkonen is alledgedly coming back to the sport?

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Rumour has it Helmut Marko is making Horner's job extremely difficult due to the sway he has at RBR and the fact he dislikes Mark Webber.

 

All the more reason I hope Webber slam dunks the title then. If he dislikes Webber so much why the hell did they re-sign him for 2011 when Raikkonen is alledgedly coming back to the sport?

 

Apparently Webber said the same thing to the press last night :unsure:

 

I was surprised when he re-signed but I think there's a degree of loyalty on both sides. He's spent most of his career at teams which Red Bull now own so they know him and he knows them. He's getting old and he's in a good car, he probably didn't account for the maladroit management style of Marko, Horner and co.

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I can understand Webber going for another year, as the Red Bull was the only seat open to him that had a realistic chance of winning a world title. I presume Helmut Marko is 'Mr. Red Bull', and has a habit of being quite domineering. He probably favours Vettel because he's German, and has come up through their ranks. Don't understand why he dislikes Webber so much, who seems like an honest pro, who can win races and do a very good job in a good car.

 

I'm another person who wants Webber to win the title, and Vettel's car to constantly fall to bits, or for him to crash it a few times. Ferrari built their team around Schumacher, as he was by far the best driver of his generation. Vettel isn't that, and has no claim to have the team geared solely towards him. I hope Red Bull implode, but with Webber winning the title.

 

Lotus to use Renault engines next season. That might give them a bit of a boost over the other new teams. I don't think Cosworth make giant elastic bands for Hispania Racing.

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Raikkonen set to stay in rallying

 

Kimi Raikkonen is set to commit to the World Rally Championship for a second season, reveals this week's AUTOSPORT.

 

The 2007 Formula 1 world champion had been linked to a return to grand prix racing with Renault next year, but the Finn intends to stay in rallying for at least one more year.

 

Raikkonen is believed to be keen for his relationship with Red Bull in the long term, opening the door for a possible F1 return wuth the energy drink firm's team in 2012.

 

"I don't miss Formula 1 and I am enjoying what I am doing now," Raikkonen said at the Bulgarian round of the WRC last weekend.

 

"I have still not decided what I am doing next year yet. Soon I have to decide, maybe it will be just after Rally Finland."

 

A Red Bull source confirmed to AUTOSPORT that it is close to a deal with Raikkonen: "We are very happy with what Kimi has done this season. He is very good for the Red Bull brand and we are looking to extend his agreement into next year. I think this is likely."

 

Citroen Racing director Olivier Quesnel is confident that he will retain Raikkonen in 2011.

 

"I'm sure this will happen," he said. "For myself, he is really involved in rallying and he wants to succeed. I will be pleased if he will stay. he has done one year and he needs to do one more year to make sure."

 

Sebastien Loeb agrees that it would benefit Raikkonen to stay for at least a second year in the WRC.

 

"He should, because this year he is only learning," Loeb said. "He cannot be competitive this year and if he stops then he has lost this year. If he continues next year he will arrive on the rallies knowing where he is.

 

"He has the notes, he can modify them, which is much easier than this year when he had to make them all from the start. He will know better the stages in his head. He can improve a lot from this year to next year.

 

"Especially because we all change cars, so he will get in the new car and we will also. I'm sure he would have more chances to succeed next season."

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Now let's see if it's as funny when Jake Humphrey severs a McLaren brake cable next weekend.

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EJ's reaction when it cuts back from showing Webber in Parc Ferme is hilarious. Obviously thinks he is 'off camera'. :jesuswept:

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I really don't like it when Rob has a point :unsure:

 

Massa was marginally slower, not enough to advocate the two switch positions in such a blatant manner. It probably makes sense to Ferrari because they favour Alonso despite the fact Massa was still within touching distance in the championship but it damages the sport overall and basically makes them look like complete hypocrites in the wake of the Valencia whinging. Their arrogance has been astounding as well post-race.

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