The F1 2010 thread

[Craig 6682]

I still reckon they should consider a London GP around Hyde Park, Park Lane & The Mall.

[Billy Castell 0]

That would be great. Imagine how many whingers will ring up Talkshit, or send angry letters to the Daily Express . I'd love to see a race at Leguna Seca too, just for the infamous corkscrew, one of these new tracks should have had something like that. Or the old Nurburgring. It can't cost that much to do it up surely?

[Craig 6682]

If the US are serious about having a GP (which I've never been convinced that they are) then it should be held at Laguna Seca every single time. Bernie's gon on about the sport doesn't appeal to the North Americans as much as IRL or NASCAR and that's the reason it was canned, but is it any wonder they're not that interested when you consider the ridiculous carry on at Indianapolis back in 2005?? I think Laguna Seca would give F1 a reason to want to race there which in turn will bring the support flooding in. Only other circuit I'd consider is Watkins Glen - a true classic.

 

The Nordschleife? It'd be absolutely fantastic but sadly in this day and age, each lap would be a 14 mile procession - it's legendary status derives from when the drivers were putting their life at risk each time they got in the car and the Nordschleife was seen as the ultimate test. The sport is too sanitised these days. It'd be like racing around the Hungaroring but only a longer lap.

[Rob W 0]

I still reckon they should consider a London GP around Hyde Park, Park Lane & The Mall.

 

 

used to run the Aussie Grand Prix like that in Adelaide - but the drivers ahted it as it was "dangerous" on normal roads and they couldn't install all the pits and grandstands for Ernie and the boys

[Craig 6682]

I still reckon they should consider a London GP around Hyde Park, Park Lane & The Mall.

 

 

used to run the Aussie Grand Prix like that in Adelaide - but the drivers ahted it as it was "dangerous" on normal roads and they couldn't install all the pits and grandstands for Ernie and the boys

 

Drivvel.

[sammynb 3373]

I still reckon they should consider a London GP around Hyde Park, Park Lane & The Mall.

 

 

used to run the Aussie Grand Prix like that in Adelaide - but the drivers ahted it as it was "dangerous" on normal roads and they couldn't install all the pits and grandstands for Ernie and the boys

 

Drivvel.

 

Just to back Craig up the only reason the Australian GP went to Melbourne was $$$.

At the time the Premier of Victoria, Jeff Kennett, was trying to draw tourism to Melbourne.

So they poached the Aust GP (and there were a lot of protests by both Adelaide and Melbourne residents), built the Crown Casino, the Docklands Stadium and a bunch of other stuff.

The drivers loved Adelaide and the circuit had fuck all to do with it moving.

[Rob W 0]

I only repeat what a bunch of Crows told me................

[Billy Castell 0]

I'd swap Hungary for Adelaide any day. Mind you an 'Oceania GP' would probably end up in Auckland. And that would be crap. Wellington may be OK due to the steep hills, but not a match for the old Adelaide race track.

 

BBC are saying the race in New York state is a probability for 2012.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Webber not ruling out moving teams

By Steven English

 

Mark Webber has said he is not ruling out a move to a different team when his Red Bull Racing contract expires at the end of this season.

 

The Australian now holds a joint championship lead with team-mate Sebastian Vettel after winning the last two grands prix, and has become one of the key figures in the driver market with his current contract expiring at the end of 2010.

 

Although he admits he is happy at Red Bull, he left himself open to the possibility of moving for 2011, with Ferrari known to have a potential vacancy with Felipe Massa's contract also ending this year.

 

"I've just won two races, back-to-back, and people are asking me where I'm going to drive next year," Webber said in an interview with The Mail on Sunday.

 

"I'm very close to the guys at Red Bull, we've been through a lot and I have a great relationship with them. Yet things happen and change very fast in this business and you never know what's around the corner."

 

Webber expects his future to be decided by the time of the British Grand Prix in July.

 

"At the moment, I'm only thinking about the next race, in Turkey next weekend. The rest will take care of itself. There are hundreds of points up for grabs and I'm concentrating on the job in hand. I imagine the picture will be clearer in another six weeks or so. But what matters most is I still have a great desire driving me."

 

He also took time to reflect on his Monaco Grand Prix victory last weekend, admitting that he has been blown away by his achievement.

 

"It seems a lot of people watch the Monaco Grand Prix!" he added. "I suppose it's amazing because, only three or four weeks ago, everyone was talking about the dream team at McLaren or Michael [schumacher] doing this or that. But I'm not getting carried away; our sport changes in a flash.

 

"It struck me that, at that dinner with the Prince, I was part of history. I'll never forget them peeling back the roof of the building for a fireworks display. It was a great conclusion to what had been a unique, dramatic week in my life."

 

Webber returned to the Monte Carlo track on Monday to take some time to revel in his victory.

 

"I drove round the track again in my road car looking to see where the rubber was, just taking in the moment," he said. "The last time I'd driven it, I'd been pretty wired! I am not one for the glitz or glamour, but I know how tough it is to win there. A small error and your race is over. I just wanted another look on Monday."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83818

[Craig 6682]

I've heard strong rumours of Kimi to Red Bull for next season. Hard to see where Webber would end up mind you - probably Renault replacing Kubica who I'm convinced is off to Ferrari.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Webber has already said that he'd rather retire than take an uncompetitive drive, so his options aren't huge. Most drivers would like to get into a Ferrari seat at some time in their career, and he gets on well with Alonso. Mind you so does Kubica, who I agree is a favourite for the no.2 Ferrari.

 

In the end, I think Red Bull will get the deal done, particularly if he becomes world champ. More so if Mercedes have still got an eye on Vettel.

[Rob W 0]

I'd swap Hungary for Adelaide any day. Mind you an 'Oceania GP' would probably end up in Auckland. And that would be crap. Wellington may be OK due to the steep hills, but not a match for the old Adelaide race track.

 

BBC are saying the race in New York state is a probability for 2012.

 

 

Nauru is the place - only one road around the island and the "straight" is where they land Boeing 737's -= plenty of space to pass.............

[Guest alex]

Any updates on the enforced fuel stop yet?

[Rob W 0]

just wait my friend............

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

US Grand Prix returns to F1 in 2012

By Jonathan Noble

 

The United States Grand Prix will return to the Formula 1 calendar in 2012 after a deal was struck for a race to be held in Austin, Texas.

 

Following weeks of speculation about the potential return of a race in America, F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone announced on Tuesday night that the event will take place from 2012 to 2021 on a new purpose-built facility in Austin.

 

Ecclestone said: "For the first time in the history of Formula 1 in the United States, a world-class facility will be purpose-built to host the event.

 

"It was thirty years ago that the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix was last held on a purpose-built permanent road course circuit in Watkins Glen, NY (1961-1980), which enjoyed great success.

 

"Since then, F1 has been hosted by Long Beach, Las Vegas, Detroit, Dallas and Phoenix all on temporary street circuits. Indianapolis joined the ranks of host cities in 2000 when they added a road course inside the famed oval.

 

"Lewis Hamilton won the last F1 United States Grand Prix in 2007, signalling the end to eight years at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This however, will be the first time a facility is constructed from the ground up specifically for F1 in the US."

 

The deal with Ecclestone has been put together by promoters Full Throttle Productions, and its managing partner Tavo Hellmund.

 

Speaking about the deal, which comes after speculation of events in New Jersey and New York State, Hellmund said: "This is a case of the right timing in the right place. As many Americans know, Austin has earned a reputation as one of the 'it' cities in the United States.

 

"We are extremely honoured and proud to reach an agreement with the F1 Commercial Rights Holder. We have been diligently working together for several years to bring this great event to Austin, the State of Texas and back to the United States. All parties involved have a great amount of trust and confidence in each other and are committed to establishing the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix in Austin, Texas as a prestigious global event."

No details have yet emerged about the track layout, or whereabouts in Austin the venue will be built.

 

I'd be a bit concerned about that last line

[Craig 6682]

As long as Tilke leaves well alone! I was please to see Silverstone didn't hire his services

[Craig 6682]

If I was Mark Webber I'd be telling Christian Horner to stick his contract up his fucking arsehole. What an absolute dickhead for taking the side of the man who turned towards the man who left enough space but refused (quite rightly) to yield.

 

How Horner has the audacity to claim that their drivers are considered 'equal' is beyond me. Vettel is a fast driver, sure but Webber is by far a 'classier' racer

 

Hope you pound the whingy litter fucker for the rest of the season Mark

[Billy Castell 0]

It's because Vettel is a kraut, as is Mr. Red Bull (well he's Austrian, but they're similar). Webber has always been 2nd best at Red Bull, and I'd not blame him for moving to another team. Mind you, there are no other team at Red Bull's level he can move to. I like Webber as he is a sound guy, and you can tell he loves his job.

 

EDIT: Just seen the replay as I missed the race. Vettel obviously had a moment, and how anyone can blame Webber I do not know.

Edited May 31, 2010 by Billy Castell

[Ketsbaia 0]

If I was Mark Webber I'd be telling Christian Horner to stick his contract up his fucking arsehole. What an absolute dickhead for taking the side of the man who turned towards the man who left enough space but refused (quite rightly) to yield.

 

How Horner has the audacity to claim that their drivers are considered 'equal' is beyond me. Vettel is a fast driver, sure but Webber is by far a 'classier' racer

 

Hope you pound the whingy litter fucker for the rest of the season Mark

 

Red Bull have conducted themselves awfully, almost as bad as Ferrari when they were at their worst. Letting your guys race is one thing but it looked to me like they were dabbling in team orders. In the footage of Horner on the pit wall it looked very much like he was saying "move over" and the fact he's pinning the blame on Webber, who wasn't at all at fault for the incident, takes the piss.

 

I've heard a few journos say Red Bull have been awful to deal with this season, mechanics accusing photographers of taking spy shots of their car etc. I can't stand the Red Bull sporting family which seems to buy its way to the top and this just adds to it.

 

I used to like Vettel but he's such a pain in the arse nowadays. When he gets pole he wags his finger and cheers like he's just won the bloody WDC and when he doesn't he has a face like a smacked backside. I hope Webber shows him up.

 

[Billy Castell 0]

You'd think they'd back Webber in general terms, seeing as he's leading the champioship, and on a run of results. However we have as much chance of a Williams storming towards a win in the constructors championship as that happening.

 

I miss the 90's when you had good privateer teams with Williams at the top. Few corporate wankers with their pet projects, apart from Briatore, and people who wanted to race without worrying so much about the 'brand'.

 

Is there any update on the likes of VW supplying engines?

[Craig 6682]

If I was Mark Webber I'd be telling Christian Horner to stick his contract up his fucking arsehole. What an absolute dickhead for taking the side of the man who turned towards the man who left enough space but refused (quite rightly) to yield.

 

How Horner has the audacity to claim that their drivers are considered 'equal' is beyond me. Vettel is a fast driver, sure but Webber is by far a 'classier' racer

 

Hope you pound the whingy litter fucker for the rest of the season Mark

 

Red Bull have conducted themselves awfully, almost as bad as Ferrari when they were at their worst. Letting your guys race is one thing but it looked to me like they were dabbling in team orders. In the footage of Horner on the pit wall it looked very much like he was saying "move over" and the fact he's pinning the blame on Webber, who wasn't at all at fault for the incident, takes the piss.

 

I've heard a few journos say Red Bull have been awful to deal with this season, mechanics accusing photographers of taking spy shots of their car etc. I can't stand the Red Bull sporting family which seems to buy its way to the top and this just adds to it.

 

I used to like Vettel but he's such a pain in the arse nowadays. When he gets pole he wags his finger and cheers like he's just won the bloody WDC and when he doesn't he has a face like a smacked backside. I hope Webber shows him up.

 

 

Did you see the bit where the journalist was following Vettel to the motor home and one of the Red Bull mechanics went for him? Fucking disgrace....

 

Vettel has become a spoilt brat tbh. He had the same problem Hamilton did - too much success far too early in his career and believes the sport and those in it actually owes him further success. Lewis managed to sort that one out following his world title though IMO.

 

It wasn't just the race though. Dunno if any of you watched the post-qualifying press conference but there was a part where Webber was being asked about going out first in Q3 when normal Red Bull practice is for the guy who finished lower in the previous race to go out first. Webber's response was along the lines of "yeah Seb should have gone first, hardly life or death though" but whilst he was saying this, Vettel was sat there rolling his eyes as if to say "stop fucking whinging".

 

Joe Saward's blog summed it up for me....

 

Red Bull Racing may have the fastest car in Formula 1 this year, but the team has made a fundamental mistake. And the fact that the two drivers collided is not the problem. That was unfortunate. The real problem is that one of the drivers - the one leading the World Championship, no less - is no longer sure that he can trust his own team.

 

Source: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/...fking-disaster/

[Craig 6682]

Boring season this mind, isn't it Rob?

[Rob W 0]

Just going to say it was the best race in years...........

 

even the Evil Kraut performed to form..............

[Guest alex]

Only decent when it rains

[Rob W 0]

or they have to come into the pits...............