Apartheid

[Kid Dynamite 7171]

Well I lived in Leeds for 3 years, America for 6 months, spent some time in Africa. Met a lot of dicks and a lot of nice folks on the way. Not sure what thats got to do with the price of fish like?

[Kid Dynamite 7171]

Save your breath Stevie, youre opinion is worthless to me. You dislike me. I dont mind. If I compiled a list of religions, races, nationalities, sexualities, regionalities etc. that you have stated a dislike for I think I would be in the majority!

 

A bit less hate and a little more love in your life would open your eyes to a whole new world Stevie

I've got very little hate in me, maybe a touch of scorn towards certain peoples but never against individuals.

 

Maybe thats where youre going wrong?

[Guest Stevie]

I dont come on here to be liked. In fact one of the reasons I stick around is to constantly remind you when you contradict yourself. Does the fact that youre the only other person on here that Craig has abused not tell you something

 

Abused?

 

I called you a nob because that's exactly what you are. Your entire reason for being on here appears to be that you want to trip people up all the time over their own comments. More often than not it reflects badly on you and then when someone dares to point out the irony of when you've tripped yourself up you claim that you're being 'picked on'.

 

If you'd have anything about you, you'd know damned well I've had more run-ins on this forum than just with you and Stevie. Papa L, Renton & Leazes Mag immediately spring to mind - all of whom (and Stevie for that matter) I get on with fine nowadays.

Exactly, and he's not intelligent enough to carry it off, even if he ever did have a valid point to make. This thread epitomises him for me. I was enjoying reading NJS' thoughts and other people with a better recollection through age of that time, because I find it interesting, and this tool derails yet another thread. Waste of time.

[Guest Stevie]

Save your breath Stevie, youre opinion is worthless to me. You dislike me. I dont mind. If I compiled a list of religions, races, nationalities, sexualities, regionalities etc. that you have stated a dislike for I think I would be in the majority!

 

A bit less hate and a little more love in your life would open your eyes to a whole new world Stevie

I've got very little hate in me, maybe a touch of scorn towards certain peoples but never against individuals.

 

Maybe thats where youre going wrong?

Going wrong . You're the biggest dick on here and I'm trying not to be nasty. Maybe you could offer advice to Phil Brown on where he's going wrong, no cunt else though.

[Kid Dynamite 7171]

Can you not see how backwards it is to have scorn towards a certain ''peoples'', but not individuals?

[Park Life 71]

Save your breath Stevie, youre opinion is worthless to me. You dislike me. I dont mind. If I compiled a list of religions, races, nationalities, sexualities, regionalities etc. that you have stated a dislike for I think I would be in the majority!

 

A bit less hate and a little more love in your life would open your eyes to a whole new world Stevie

I've got very little hate in me, maybe a touch of scorn towards certain peoples but never against individuals.

 

Maybe thats where youre going wrong?

Going wrong . You're the biggest dick on here and I'm trying not to be nasty. Maybe you could offer advice to Phil Brown on where he's going wrong, no cunt else though.

 

The Orange County Wars.

[tooner 243]

Stevie,

 

not sure what your point was before this became (yet another) KD flame war, and it was a rather long OP.....please paraphrase.

 

cheers

[Guest Stevie]

Save your breath Stevie, youre opinion is worthless to me. You dislike me. I dont mind. If I compiled a list of religions, races, nationalities, sexualities, regionalities etc. that you have stated a dislike for I think I would be in the majority!

 

A bit less hate and a little more love in your life would open your eyes to a whole new world Stevie

I've got very little hate in me, maybe a touch of scorn towards certain peoples but never against individuals.

 

Maybe thats where youre going wrong?

Going wrong . You're the biggest dick on here and I'm trying not to be nasty. Maybe you could offer advice to Phil Brown on where he's going wrong, no cunt else though.

 

The Orange County Wars.

 

Can you not see how backwards it is to have scorn towards a certain ''peoples'', but not individuals?

Mods is there a chance you can review the rules to ban incessantly boring cunts with nothing to offer. No one can tell me this kid has never been hit if he was anything like this in real life.

 

Stevie,

 

not sure what your point was before this became (yet another) KD flame war, and it was a rather long OP.....please paraphrase.

 

cheers

Point was tooner, the white system in South Africa was cuntish, and when inherent racism is as ingrained as that it's going to take more than a generation before it is even half eradicated from society. The only reason I would vaguely support the World Cup being held there is that football is largely seen as a black sport in South Africa. The South African swimmer in Muriel's Wedding sums the whites up over there.

[Tom 14013]

Well I lived in Leeds for 3 years, America for 6 months, spent some time in Africa. Met a lot of dicks and a lot of nice folks on the way. Not sure what thats got to do with the price of fish like?

 

Fish is cheap and for a little extra he's got a place in Acapulco where he will mess you up fun time.

[tooner 243]

Save your breath Stevie, youre opinion is worthless to me. You dislike me. I dont mind. If I compiled a list of religions, races, nationalities, sexualities, regionalities etc. that you have stated a dislike for I think I would be in the majority!

 

A bit less hate and a little more love in your life would open your eyes to a whole new world Stevie

I've got very little hate in me, maybe a touch of scorn towards certain peoples but never against individuals.

 

Maybe thats where youre going wrong?

Going wrong . You're the biggest dick on here and I'm trying not to be nasty. Maybe you could offer advice to Phil Brown on where he's going wrong, no cunt else though.

 

The Orange County Wars.

 

Can you not see how backwards it is to have scorn towards a certain ''peoples'', but not individuals?

Mods is there a chance you can review the rules to ban incessantly boring cunts with nothing to offer. No one can tell me this kid has never been hit if he was anything like this in real life.

 

Stevie,

 

not sure what your point was before this became (yet another) KD flame war, and it was a rather long OP.....please paraphrase.

 

cheers

Point was tooner, the white system in South Africa was cuntish, and when inherent racism is as ingrained as that it's going to take more than a generation before it is even half eradicated from society. The only reason I would vaguely support the World Cup being held there is that football is largely seen as a black sport in South Africa. The South African swimmer in Muriel's Wedding sums the whites up over there.

 

 

cheers.........i agree, are you lot seeing the advert for the new Clint Eastwood movie over there....Invictus, very inspiring story (if you beleive the ad) bout post apartheid SA.

 

and for what it's worth I think everybody is overlooking the african teams this WC, the boost of a home crowd (whether continental or country) should not be overlooked in my estimate.

[The Fish 10966]

Well I lived in Leeds for 3 years, America for 6 months, spent some time in Africa. Met a lot of dicks and a lot of nice folks on the way. Not sure what thats got to do with the price of fish like?

 

Fish is cheap and for a little extra he's got a place in Acapulco where he will mess you up fun time.

 

...

[Guest Stevie]

Save your breath Stevie, youre opinion is worthless to me. You dislike me. I dont mind. If I compiled a list of religions, races, nationalities, sexualities, regionalities etc. that you have stated a dislike for I think I would be in the majority!

 

A bit less hate and a little more love in your life would open your eyes to a whole new world Stevie

I've got very little hate in me, maybe a touch of scorn towards certain peoples but never against individuals.

 

Maybe thats where youre going wrong?

Going wrong . You're the biggest dick on here and I'm trying not to be nasty. Maybe you could offer advice to Phil Brown on where he's going wrong, no cunt else though.

 

The Orange County Wars.

 

Can you not see how backwards it is to have scorn towards a certain ''peoples'', but not individuals?

Mods is there a chance you can review the rules to ban incessantly boring cunts with nothing to offer. No one can tell me this kid has never been hit if he was anything like this in real life.

 

Stevie,

 

not sure what your point was before this became (yet another) KD flame war, and it was a rather long OP.....please paraphrase.

 

cheers

Point was tooner, the white system in South Africa was cuntish, and when inherent racism is as ingrained as that it's going to take more than a generation before it is even half eradicated from society. The only reason I would vaguely support the World Cup being held there is that football is largely seen as a black sport in South Africa. The South African swimmer in Muriel's Wedding sums the whites up over there.

 

 

cheers.........i agree, are you lot seeing the advert for the new Clint Eastwood movie over there....Invictus, very inspiring story (if you beleive the ad) bout post apartheid SA.

 

and for what it's worth I think everybody is overlooking the african teams this WC, the boost of a home crowd (whether continental or country) should not be overlooked in my estimate.

I don't mean to sound arrogant, but in these tournaments every game seems like a home game for England support wise. I ghope Ivory Coast win it if we don't though.

[Jusoda Kid 1]

If its not a bad thing why did you vote BNP?

You always know he's lost when he resorts to this. Like the Indians being dragged from their tents in Kenya by the Tsavo's.

 

 

Resort to what? A simple question? Youre a walking contradiction on here when it comes to race, colour and creed

 

Wacky, you obviously read the article, can you sum it up for me please?

 

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[Kitman 2207]

The OP's way too long. Anyway I wouldn't tar all white South Africans with the same brush.

 

As I understand it, South Africa had/has a white population with 2 different cultural heritages: the Boers and the English. The Boers were the political ruling class up to the abolition of apartheid, owned a lot of farmland, and were responsible for apartheid. They've been in South Africa since the 17th century I think. The Boer mindset is one of siege - the threat to the Boer values and way of life borne out of historical struggles with the English, black people, the great treks etc. iirc the English actively colonised South Africa in the 19th century especially around Natal.

 

I've met a lot of South Africans in NZ. Since the end of apartheid there's been a lot of emigration out of South Africa, particularly down under - the security situation has deterioriated in recent years, economic prospects have declined etc. The Boers here keep themselves to themselves by and large, I haven't met any but they have a bad reputation here amongst Kiwis as people to know and do business with. They tend to speak transvaal when they're out and about in the shops. The English type South Africans are also quite numerous, without exception those I've met (here and in the UK) have been really nice, not remotely racist as far as I can tell and have left South Africa with a heavy heart and out of necessity.

[Park Life 71]

The OP's way too long. Anyway I wouldn't tar all white South Africans with the same brush.

 

As I understand it, South Africa had/has a white population with 2 different cultural heritages: the Boers and the English. The Boers were the political ruling class up to the abolition of apartheid, owned a lot of farmland, and were responsible for apartheid. They've been in South Africa since the 17th century I think. The Boer mindset is one of siege - the threat to the Boer values and way of life borne out of historical struggles with the English, black people, the great treks etc. iirc the English actively colonised South Africa in the 19th century especially around Natal.

 

I've met a lot of South Africans in NZ. Since the end of apartheid there's been a lot of emigration out of South Africa, particularly down under - the security situation has deterioriated in recent years, economic prospects have declined etc. The Boers here keep themselves to themselves by and large, I haven't met any but they have a bad reputation here amongst Kiwis as people to know and do business with. They tend to speak transvaal when they're out and about in the shops. The English type South Africans are also quite numerous, without exception those I've met (here and in the UK) have been really nice, not remotely racist as far as I can tell and have left South Africa with a heavy heart and out of necessity.

 

Oh yes I'm sure.

 

The women are bad enough, the men must be evil.

 

They arrived (The Boers) originally at Orange free state and declared that god had chosen them and given them this land (just a small matter of clearing out the native bliicks)....

 

I wouldn't give a fuck if all the whites had to leave.

 

There is a funny thing on utube somewhere where when the blacks first took power they had a laugh cutting off the water to the white mansions and then going round there and asking them for money to get it turned back on. Need some of that in Notting Hill tbs tbs...

[Kitman 2207]

The OP's way too long. Anyway I wouldn't tar all white South Africans with the same brush.

 

As I understand it, South Africa had/has a white population with 2 different cultural heritages: the Boers and the English. The Boers were the political ruling class up to the abolition of apartheid, owned a lot of farmland, and were responsible for apartheid. They've been in South Africa since the 17th century I think. The Boer mindset is one of siege - the threat to the Boer values and way of life borne out of historical struggles with the English, black people, the great treks etc. iirc the English actively colonised South Africa in the 19th century especially around Natal.

 

I've met a lot of South Africans in NZ. Since the end of apartheid there's been a lot of emigration out of South Africa, particularly down under - the security situation has deterioriated in recent years, economic prospects have declined etc. The Boers here keep themselves to themselves by and large, I haven't met any but they have a bad reputation here amongst Kiwis as people to know and do business with. They tend to speak transvaal when they're out and about in the shops. The English type South Africans are also quite numerous, without exception those I've met (here and in the UK) have been really nice, not remotely racist as far as I can tell and have left South Africa with a heavy heart and out of necessity.

 

Oh yes I'm sure.

 

 

But, but....I wasn't talking about the Boers.

 

Oh well. Actually they were kidnapped from their homeland by malicious sprites and dumped in NZ. Since then they have plotted in secret to return to commit further racist outrages and crimes against humanity. The bastards. Shoot them all. It's the only langauage they understand.

 

Better Mr P.?

[Park Life 71]

The OP's way too long. Anyway I wouldn't tar all white South Africans with the same brush.

 

As I understand it, South Africa had/has a white population with 2 different cultural heritages: the Boers and the English. The Boers were the political ruling class up to the abolition of apartheid, owned a lot of farmland, and were responsible for apartheid. They've been in South Africa since the 17th century I think. The Boer mindset is one of siege - the threat to the Boer values and way of life borne out of historical struggles with the English, black people, the great treks etc. iirc the English actively colonised South Africa in the 19th century especially around Natal.

 

I've met a lot of South Africans in NZ. Since the end of apartheid there's been a lot of emigration out of South Africa, particularly down under - the security situation has deterioriated in recent years, economic prospects have declined etc. The Boers here keep themselves to themselves by and large, I haven't met any but they have a bad reputation here amongst Kiwis as people to know and do business with. They tend to speak transvaal when they're out and about in the shops. The English type South Africans are also quite numerous, without exception those I've met (here and in the UK) have been really nice, not remotely racist as far as I can tell and have left South Africa with a heavy heart and out of necessity.

 

Oh yes I'm sure.

 

 

But, but....I wasn't talking about the Boers.

 

Oh well. Actually they were kidnapped from their homeland by malicious sprites and dumped in NZ. Since then they have plotted in secret to return to commit further racist outrages and crimes against humanity. The bastards. Shoot them all. It's the only langauage they understand.

 

Better Mr P.?

 

[Guest Stevie]

The OP's way too long. Anyway I wouldn't tar all white South Africans with the same brush.

 

As I understand it, South Africa had/has a white population with 2 different cultural heritages: the Boers and the English. The Boers were the political ruling class up to the abolition of apartheid, owned a lot of farmland, and were responsible for apartheid. They've been in South Africa since the 17th century I think. The Boer mindset is one of siege - the threat to the Boer values and way of life borne out of historical struggles with the English, black people, the great treks etc. iirc the English actively colonised South Africa in the 19th century especially around Natal.

 

I've met a lot of South Africans in NZ. Since the end of apartheid there's been a lot of emigration out of South Africa, particularly down under - the security situation has deterioriated in recent years, economic prospects have declined etc. The Boers here keep themselves to themselves by and large, I haven't met any but they have a bad reputation here amongst Kiwis as people to know and do business with. They tend to speak transvaal when they're out and about in the shops. The English type South Africans are also quite numerous, without exception those I've met (here and in the UK) have been really nice, not remotely racist as far as I can tell and have left South Africa with a heavy heart and out of necessity.

My understanding is that the Kiwi's (insignificant country of 3m people 30 years behind us country that they are) were the biggest allies of the SA state during apartheid. Fancy sending rugby teams to play them.

 

Lets be honest the dutch are cunts, I like going to Holland its a nice country especially places off the beaten track but what a bunch of arrogant cunts. They need to know they'd be speaking kraut if it wasn't for us, we should've sent more Michael Caine types over 120 years ago and battered the cunts.

 

I've never met one South African I've liked, I've only met three, all cunts, fat as well. No honour in them at all. See in Zulu when we went over, the Zulu's gave us the mark of respect at the end it was like saying look, we outnumber you but you're hard cunts so full respect to you, decent human beings.

[Kitman 2207]

My understanding is that the Kiwi's (insignificant country of 3m people 30 years behind us country that they are) were the biggest allies of the SA state during apartheid. Fancy sending rugby teams to play them.

 

Lets be honest the dutch are cunts, I like going to Holland its a nice country especially places off the beaten track but what a bunch of arrogant cunts. They need to know they'd be speaking kraut if it wasn't for us, we should've sent more Michael Caine types over 120 years ago and battered the cunts.

 

I've never met one South African I've liked, I've only met three, all cunts, fat as well. No honour in them at all. See in Zulu when we went over, the Zulu's gave us the mark of respect at the end it was like saying look, we outnumber you but you're hard cunts so full respect to you, decent human beings.

 

 

Population of NZ is 4-5m actually

 

You're right about being 30 years behind (at least) but that's actually part of its charm - quality of life and family values are still all important here and it's relatively unspoilt; people here don't tend to be the greedy money obsessed arseholes I came across in the south east of England, squashed into tiny living spaces and consumed by jealousy of other people and the idea of missing out.

 

It's also an insignificant country in terms of world politics but again that's a plus. Unlike the UK, there's no chip on their shoulder about their past and their standing in the world, the armed forces are non existent (I expect their soldiers run around with wooden rifles making firing noises), and they're nuclear free, so our tax dollars don't go on supporting any of Donald Rumsfeld's companies or the Yanks madcap military campaigns. I quite like that.

 

I also happen to like the Dutch, Amsterdam was a favourite place to visit and I met quite a few Dutch people on courses and the like. I actually found them hilarious, strange blend of liberalism and conservative values and they loved to drink. The main thing I've got against Holland is it's very boiring to look at by and large (unlike NZ which is spectacular ). I suspect the path between the real Dutch and the Boers diverged about 3 or 4 hundred years ago. Probably like comparing the Amish people to the Dutch.

 

I haven't met a Boer that I've liked, but I haven't met that many truth be told. I haven't met any Zulus so I'll have to take your word for it

[Happy Face 29]

even two muslims

 

 

Classic

[Park Life 71]

My understanding is that the Kiwi's (insignificant country of 3m people 30 years behind us country that they are) were the biggest allies of the SA state during apartheid. Fancy sending rugby teams to play them.

 

Lets be honest the dutch are cunts, I like going to Holland its a nice country especially places off the beaten track but what a bunch of arrogant cunts. They need to know they'd be speaking kraut if it wasn't for us, we should've sent more Michael Caine types over 120 years ago and battered the cunts.

 

I've never met one South African I've liked, I've only met three, all cunts, fat as well. No honour in them at all. See in Zulu when we went over, the Zulu's gave us the mark of respect at the end it was like saying look, we outnumber you but you're hard cunts so full respect to you, decent human beings.

 

 

Population of NZ is 4-5m actually

 

You're right about being 30 years behind (at least) but that's actually part of its charm - quality of life and family values are still all important here and it's relatively unspoilt; people here don't tend to be the greedy money obsessed arseholes I came across in the south east of England, squashed into tiny living spaces and consumed by jealousy of other people and the idea of missing out.

 

It's also an insignificant country in terms of world politics but again that's a plus. Unlike the UK, there's no chip on their shoulder about their past and their standing in the world, the armed forces are non existent (I expect their soldiers run around with wooden rifles making firing noises), and they're nuclear free, so our tax dollars don't go on supporting any of Donald Rumsfeld's companies or the Yanks madcap military campaigns. I quite like that.

 

I also happen to like the Dutch, Amsterdam was a favourite place to visit and I met quite a few Dutch people on courses and the like. I actually found them hilarious, strange blend of liberalism and conservative values and they loved to drink. The main thing I've got against Holland is it's very boiring to look at by and large (unlike NZ which is spectacular ). I suspect the path between the real Dutch and the Boers diverged about 3 or 4 hundred years ago. Probably like comparing the Amish people to the Dutch.

 

I haven't met a Boer that I've liked, but I haven't met that many truth be told. I haven't met any Zulus so I'll have to take your word for it

 

If you go back the Dutch are actually originally a variety of Germans. Kicked out for wierd religious beliefs.

[Guest alex]

My understanding is that the Kiwi's (insignificant country of 3m people 30 years behind us country that they are) were the biggest allies of the SA state during apartheid. Fancy sending rugby teams to play them.

 

Lets be honest the dutch are cunts, I like going to Holland its a nice country especially places off the beaten track but what a bunch of arrogant cunts. They need to know they'd be speaking kraut if it wasn't for us, we should've sent more Michael Caine types over 120 years ago and battered the cunts.

 

I've never met one South African I've liked, I've only met three, all cunts, fat as well. No honour in them at all. See in Zulu when we went over, the Zulu's gave us the mark of respect at the end it was like saying look, we outnumber you but you're hard cunts so full respect to you, decent human beings.

 

 

Population of NZ is 4-5m actually

 

You're right about being 30 years behind (at least) but that's actually part of its charm - quality of life and family values are still all important here and it's relatively unspoilt; people here don't tend to be the greedy money obsessed arseholes I came across in the south east of England, squashed into tiny living spaces and consumed by jealousy of other people and the idea of missing out.

 

It's also an insignificant country in terms of world politics but again that's a plus. Unlike the UK, there's no chip on their shoulder about their past and their standing in the world, the armed forces are non existent (I expect their soldiers run around with wooden rifles making firing noises), and they're nuclear free, so our tax dollars don't go on supporting any of Donald Rumsfeld's companies or the Yanks madcap military campaigns. I quite like that.

 

I also happen to like the Dutch, Amsterdam was a favourite place to visit and I met quite a few Dutch people on courses and the like. I actually found them hilarious, strange blend of liberalism and conservative values and they loved to drink. The main thing I've got against Holland is it's very boiring to look at by and large (unlike NZ which is spectacular ). I suspect the path between the real Dutch and the Boers diverged about 3 or 4 hundred years ago. Probably like comparing the Amish people to the Dutch.

 

I haven't met a Boer that I've liked, but I haven't met that many truth be told. I haven't met any Zulus so I'll have to take your word for it

 

If you go back the Dutch are actually originally a variety of Germans. Kicked out for wierd religious beliefs.

So were the Anglo-Saxons if you want to go back a bit further.

[Guest Stevie]

Parky having lived in a country like Germany. What do you think makes a collective national ethic? Why do you think your average German, in your own words, is methodical and mechanical, and what makes people from our country interesting, innovative and energetic? I've not spent enough time in Germany to judge the people really, I know they like a good drink. but the bruv in law works in Frankfurt a lot and he seems to think every stereotype on the Germans is spot on.

[Guest alex]

Parky having lived in a country like Germany. What do you think makes a collective national ethic? Why do you think your average German, in your own words, is methodical and mechanical, and what makes people from our country interesting, innovative and energetic? I've not spent enough time in Germany to judge the people really, I know they like a good drink. but the bruv in law works in Frankfurt a lot and he seems to think every stereotype on the Germans is spot on.

It's the porn. Too many close-ups.

[Happy Face 29]

Parky having lived in a country like Germany. What do you think makes a collective national ethic? Why do you think your average German, in your own words, is methodical and mechanical, and what makes people from our country interesting, innovative and energetic? I've not spent enough time in Germany to judge the people really, I know they like a good drink. but the bruv in law works in Frankfurt a lot and he seems to think every stereotype on the Germans is spot on.

 

The lack of benefits available?