Park Life 71 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I was doing so well until the sugar. What's wrong with sugarless tea?! If it was just the sugar I might overlook it as long as I had some idea you would head for the pub EVERY lunchtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11080 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I was doing so well until the sugar. What's wrong with sugarless tea?! If it was just the sugar I might overlook it as long as I had some idea you would head for the pub EVERY lunchtime. What's the pay? and do I have to humour your loony tune paranoid fantasies? I mean I'm ok with that I just will need to prepare for it is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 If your asking me - any potential employee can be assessed with one simple question. Do you sit down or stand up to wipe? Any that stand up should be escorted from the premises at arms length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 If your asking me - any potential employee can be assessed with one simple question. Do you sit down or stand up to wipe? Any that stand up should be escorted from the premises at arms length. Half right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 If your asking me - any potential employee can be assessed with one simple question. Do you sit down or stand up to wipe? Any that stand up should be escorted from the premises at arms length. Only women wipe their arses sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7099 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 The only way you can ensure there are no winnets in hinterland is by either standing a little, i.e. bent over, or pulling your cheek open with your spare hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Daily Mail? Seems a bit Draconian like. I read the pop. is about 6% Muslim (mainly refugees from the former Yugoslavia) and about 13% of those practice their religion. Admittedly I read that in The Journal. There should never even have been a referendum as the ban is clearly at odds with human rights laws. It will only be matter of time before someone will take the ban to the European Court in Strasbourg and win. The figures above are correct. Switzerland is so small and politically and geographically fragmented that there is no danger of the sort of Muslim 'parallel societies' that you get in other European countries. It's funny though how shocked the Swiss are now that they've realised the ban is making big headlines internationally, and they're not the kind of headlines they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4446 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 The only way you can ensure there are no winnets in hinterland is by either standing a little, i.e. bent over, or pulling your cheek open with your spare hand. I started reading that sentence thinking you were referring to the Swiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 199 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 I know its from the Mail but it raises a couple of interesting questions "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain? British voters can only dream of such an opportunity: any initiative supported by 100,000 or more signatories is put to the nation in a referendum. Yet over the weekend, the Swiss benefited from just such a vote. And they made their beliefs known in no uncertain terms. For contrary to the advice of the Christian clergy and many politicians, 57.5 per cent of the Swiss electorate voted to ban the construction of minarets above the nation's Muslim mosques and prayer halls. The initiative was the handiwork of the Right-wing Swiss Freedom Party, whose campaign poster featured the red and white Swiss flag on which were superimposed a woman in a burqa and minarets bristling like ballistic missiles. The clear implication was that minarets were 'symbols of power', a fear indirectly fuelled by the Turkish prime minister who recently stupidly described minarets as 'bayonets of the faith'. Fear of this prospect resonates in a country where many Muslims are from Turkey. That a majority of Swiss should seek to prohibit the erection of minarets, while emphatically retaining Muslim freedom of worship, is surprising. After all, a minaret is no more objectionable in itself than any other example of religious architecture; indeed, like church spires, they are usually extremely graceful. Switzerland, like many members of the Muslim faith, also prides itself on its tradition of tolerance. It is the birthplace of the International Red Cross and the Geneva Conventions against egregious human rights abuses, and its diplomats play an important role in mediating many global conflicts. Nor has Switzerland experienced the suburban strife of disaffected Muslim youth in France or the tragic terrorist bombings which have struck Britain, Spain and the U.S. The country's 400,000 Muslims also constitute a mere 5percent of the population and come from largely sophisticated, European countries such as Bosnia or Turkey, where a moderate brand of Islam is the norm. As a result, Switzerland has often been quick to defend its Muslim population. An earlier initiative - also sponsored by the Swiss People's Party - for example, sought to make the naturalisation of immigrants subject to a local vote. This campaign was accompanied by a poster showing several dark skinned hands trying to grab piles of Swiss passports. But the nation didn't buy into its message, and the campaign was rejected by a large majority of Swiss voters. The latest vote, however, suggests that something has changed. Switzerland is certainly going through a crisis of confidence. The country has been shaken by international attempts to make transparent its ultra secret - and often abused - financial regulations. Its national air carrier, Swissair has collapsed. And the credit crunch has taken a heavy toll on this nation of bankers. minaret But far bigger and more dangerous issues are also behind the vote. Indeed, Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy have already acknowledged that the Swiss vote represented widespread anxieties across Europe about the erosion of traditional cultural identities. And in many countries, such as Britain, these concerns are simply not being addressed. Concerned they will be branded racist if they raise the issue, many 'liberal' politicians would rather brush the immigration debate under the carpet. That means that radicals can capitalise on their silence. A predictable chorus of vehement anti-Muslims - including the French National Front, the Italian Northern League, and Geert Wilder's Party for Freedom in the Netherlands - have already celebrated the Swiss decision. Deprived of mainstream politicians who will address their concerns, it seems, people will turn towards more radical alternatives. Indeed, what has most shaken the Swiss liberal elite is that Left-wing feminists played a prominent part in the successful campaign, notably prominent feminist author Julia Onken, who sent 4,000 emails warning that Islam tacitly condoned the burqa, forced marriage, honour killings and marital violence against women. The elegant Ms Onken is not some raving Islamophobe, but a widely respected figure. This is a shame. Islam is a largely peaceful faith and there is much an increasingly amoral West could learn from its veneration of family and the elderly. But unless we have a grownup, democratic debate about Islam's impact on Western society, we risk a similar backlash here. For there are certainly questions to answer. The presence of mosques, with or without minarets, but usually accompanied by a proliferation of Islamic bookshops, can dramatically change the surrounding neighbourhood. Bars and pubs close down, and more Muslims move in. A ghetto is created and a socialcultural monopoly emerges. As the traditional Christian culture all but disappears, the minority of indigenous British remaining understandably feel confused and threatened. Of course, people of all faiths would rather have devout Muslims going about their worship, than idiot youths urinating on war memorials or comatose girls lying half naked in a pool of vomit on the pavements. For make no mistake, under our current government, Britain has undergone a colossal decline in public decorum. But no one wants to see their own culture entirely eradicated, especially when a vocal minority actively preaches hate against them. This must be addressed. As we saw to devastating effect at Finsbury Park mosque in London, which became a breeding ground for terrorists, a small number of radicals can transform a legitimate and peaceful place of worship into something altogether more sinister. Non-Muslims shouldn't be able to dictate what goes on in such places of worship. But they do have a right to monitor what is preached and by whom, especially if there is the remotest chance that this might be inflammatory. The French state has been robust in ensuring that extremists do not get a toehold in such places. By contrast, our limpwristed ruling class has failed to rein in the extremists, allowing them to ride roughshod over our dearly held traditions of tolerance and justice for fearing of being branded Islamophobic. This must change. The moderate peaceful Islamic majority - and it really is a majority - must also act. They must get a grip on the radical militants who try to stir up hate in their community and show self-restraint when advancing claims for such things as Sharia law, which threaten the fundamental identity of their host country. This has even been acknowledged by such Islamic authorities as Ali Gomaa, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, and his Indonesian equivalent, Maskuri Abdillah, who have both condemned the Swiss vote while urging Muslims to exercise restraint. Whether or not mosques have minarets is ultimately a cosmetic issue. But it is nevertheless one that has become a symbol of far deeper and more widespread grievances. The Swiss have been forced to recognise that many of their people are worried about Islam's unquestioned, undemocratic encroachments into Western society. And unless our own Government now takes note and instigates a rational but robust debate on the subject, we can expect far more trouble ahead" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 199 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. bit touchy this morning are we? tbf switzerlands population is only 7.8 million (according to wiki). if we had the same process here (petitions) then the number of signatories would have to be proportionally higher i would guess. maybe 1 million? hypothetical question i know. apparently Italy's right wing parties are trying to get in on the act as well. not much of a shock really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I had a boss who always used to throw job applications form the Swiss (and anyone with a PhD) into the bin without reading them.....very sound I always thought especially as he never commented and so the thought police couldn't get him............ How did he know they were Swiss or had PhDs if he didn't read them? postage stamps? the smell of cows and chocolate or herb tobacco & bullshit for Ph.D's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. agreed - the Swiss are parasites - they never do anything, join anything, start anything. They live by hiding cash stolen from poor folk all over the world - a nation based on fencing stolen goods IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. agreed - the Swiss are parasites - they never do anything, join anything, start anything. They live by hiding cash stolen from poor folk all over the world - a nation based on fencing stolen goods IMHO Hey now! The Red Cross? LSD? The Rickenbacher guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. agreed - the Swiss are parasites - they never do anything, join anything, start anything. They live by hiding cash stolen from poor folk all over the world - a nation based on fencing stolen goods IMHO Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. bit touchy this morning are we? tbf switzerlands population is only 7.8 million (according to wiki). if we had the same process here (petitions) then the number of signatories would have to be proportionally higher i would guess. maybe 1 million? hypothetical question i know. apparently Italy's right wing parties are trying to get in on the act as well. not much of a shock really. More people than that vote on the x-factor. Do you want Jedward able to influence policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22449 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. agreed - the Swiss are parasites - they never do anything, join anything, start anything. They live by hiding cash stolen from poor folk all over the world - a nation based on fencing stolen goods IMHO Hey now! The Red Cross? LSD? The Rickenbacher guitar? Toblerone? I've never been but intend to visit Switzerland next year, apparently they have some canny mountains there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 199 Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. bit touchy this morning are we? tbf switzerlands population is only 7.8 million (according to wiki). if we had the same process here (petitions) then the number of signatories would have to be proportionally higher i would guess. maybe 1 million? hypothetical question i know. apparently Italy's right wing parties are trying to get in on the act as well. not much of a shock really. More people than that vote on the x-factor. Do you want Jedward able to influence policy? cant do much worse than the current bunch of clowns!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. bit touchy this morning are we? tbf switzerlands population is only 7.8 million (according to wiki). if we had the same process here (petitions) then the number of signatories would have to be proportionally higher i would guess. maybe 1 million? hypothetical question i know. apparently Italy's right wing parties are trying to get in on the act as well. not much of a shock really. More people than that vote on the x-factor. Do you want Jedward able to influence policy? The wife's friend referred to them as 'Twit' and 'Twat'; which was rather rude, I thought, seeing as we were having sex at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentAxeman 199 Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. bit touchy this morning are we? tbf switzerlands population is only 7.8 million (according to wiki). if we had the same process here (petitions) then the number of signatories would have to be proportionally higher i would guess. maybe 1 million? hypothetical question i know. apparently Italy's right wing parties are trying to get in on the act as well. not much of a shock really. More people than that vote on the x-factor. Do you want Jedward able to influence policy? The wife's friend referred to them as 'Twit' and 'Twat'; which was rather rude, I thought, seeing as we were having sex at the time. you were having sex with the wifes friend? whats was his name?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I only see one question.... "What lesson does the Swiss ban on minarets hold for Britain?" None whatsoever. It's fucking idiotic to force a referendum if more than 100,000 people ask for it. The Daily Mail would grind the nation to a halt on BBC related referendi alone. bit touchy this morning are we? tbf switzerlands population is only 7.8 million (according to wiki). if we had the same process here (petitions) then the number of signatories would have to be proportionally higher i would guess. maybe 1 million? hypothetical question i know. apparently Italy's right wing parties are trying to get in on the act as well. not much of a shock really. More people than that vote on the x-factor. Do you want Jedward able to influence policy? The wife's friend referred to them as 'Twit' and 'Twat'; which was rather rude, I thought, seeing as we were having sex at the time. you were having sex with the wifes friend? whats was his name?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hey now! Love Hank me like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 you were having sex with the wifes friend? whats was his name?? Jedward. How long before someone does use that name btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I had a boss who always used to throw job applications form the Swiss (and anyone with a PhD) into the bin without reading them.....very sound I always thought especially as he never commented and so the thought police couldn't get him............ How did he know they were Swiss or had PhDs if he didn't read them? postage stamps? the smell of cows and chocolate or herb tobacco & bullshit for Ph.D's There more than a whiff of that follows you round tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) I had a boss who always used to throw job applications form the Swiss (and anyone with a PhD) into the bin without reading them.....very sound I always thought especially as he never commented and so the thought police couldn't get him............ How did he know they were Swiss or had PhDs if he didn't read them? postage stamps? the smell of cows and chocolate or herb tobacco & bullshit for Ph.D's There more than a whiff of that follows you round tbh My Apprentice, that's the whiff of you as you trail behind your master................... . Edited December 6, 2009 by Rob W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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