World Cup 2010

[sammynb 3342]

I'm not giving you examples, my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

 

As you said, only an idiot would debate it - especially one who knows nowt about it.

[Guest Stevie]

Qualifiers

 

HOSTS: South Africa

 

AFRICA QUALIFYING: Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria

 

ASIA QUALIFYING: Australia, Japan, North Korea, South Korea

 

EUROPE QUALIFYING: Denmark, England, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland

 

SOUTH AMERICA QUALIFYING: Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay

 

NORTH, CENTRAL AMERICA AND QUALIFYING: Honduras, Mexico, United States

 

ASIA/OCEANIA PLAY-OFF New Zealand

 

Back on topic.

 

What will the seeding/rankings be?

 

IMHO they should be:

 

Pot 1:

England, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Brazil, Chile, Cameroon

 

Pot 2:

Australia, USA, Mexico, Serbia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Ghana, Argentina

 

Pot 3:

Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Denmark, France, Portugal, Slovakia, Uruguay

 

Pot 4:

South Africa, Algeria, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Greece, Slovakia, Honduras, New Zealand

I think this sums up why it will never be a first class sport there too, when a genuine fan of the game comes up with the above. Some beauties in there. Chile seeded above Argentina, Cameroon seeded two pots above 2006 finalists France, regular Asian Cup Winners Korea, and 2004 European Champions Greece, seeded below first time entrancees Slovakia. Oh dear.

 

I have to say this:

Stevie you ignorant, brainless cunt - it's not about the last WC or who won what back in the day, it's about current form and rankings.

See that's why you will be never be anything other than an clueless, opinionated, pathetic excuse for a human.

You sure you don't work for FIFA?

They change the process every other World Cup you arsehole. As for the FIFA rankings basing the seedings on them has been done before, but they're so dated it's not true. I mean about 6 years ago they had USA ranked 6th I think, they had to alter them, they did, but as was pointed out the ELO rankings are more accurate. Also in previous WC's the host automatically is a top seed you tool, as is the PREVIOUS winner of the competition. As for current form, Greece have been in two of the last three tournaments winning one, their current form is excellent and they're well above Slovakia in the seedings, stick to watching Geelong and fuckin Wollagong Wolves.

[Guest Stevie]

I'm not giving you examples, my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

 

As you said, only an idiot would debate it - especially one who knows nowt about it.

Exactly you said it.

[sammynb 3342]

Qualifiers

 

HOSTS: South Africa

 

AFRICA QUALIFYING: Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria

 

ASIA QUALIFYING: Australia, Japan, North Korea, South Korea

 

EUROPE QUALIFYING: Denmark, England, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland

 

SOUTH AMERICA QUALIFYING: Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay

 

NORTH, CENTRAL AMERICA AND QUALIFYING: Honduras, Mexico, United States

 

ASIA/OCEANIA PLAY-OFF New Zealand

 

Back on topic.

 

What will the seeding/rankings be?

 

IMHO they should be:

 

Pot 1:

England, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Brazil, Chile, Cameroon

 

Pot 2:

Australia, USA, Mexico, Serbia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Ghana, Argentina

 

Pot 3:

Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Denmark, France, Portugal, Slovakia, Uruguay

 

Pot 4:

South Africa, Algeria, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Greece, Slovakia, Honduras, New Zealand

I think this sums up why it will never be a first class sport there too, when a genuine fan of the game comes up with the above. Some beauties in there. Chile seeded above Argentina, Cameroon seeded two pots above 2006 finalists France, regular Asian Cup Winners Korea, and 2004 European Champions Greece, seeded below first time entrancees Slovakia. Oh dear.

 

I have to say this:

Stevie you ignorant, brainless cunt - it's not about the last WC or who won what back in the day, it's about current form and rankings.

See that's why you will be never be anything other than an clueless, opinionated, pathetic excuse for a human.

You sure you don't work for FIFA?

They change the process every other World Cup you arsehole. As for the FIFA rankings basing the seedings on them has been done before, but they're so dated it's not true. I mean about 6 years ago they had USA ranked 6th I think, they had to alter them, they did, but as was pointed out the ELO rankings are more accurate. Also in previous WC's the host automatically is a top seed you tool, as is the PREVIOUS winner of the competition. As for current form, Greece have been in two of the last three tournaments winning one, their current form is excellent and they're well above Slovakia in the seedings, stick to watching Geelong and fuckin Wollagong Wolves.

 

Really?

Shame you can't spell Wollongong you imbecile.

[Guest alex]

I'm not giving you examples,

I'm not surprised. It sounded like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do what you do under similar circumstances then and assume it's a lie.

my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

Where have I said it is a bigger sport than the major ones in Australia? You said no one cares about football in Australia and my experience was quite different to that.

[Happy Face 29]

I'm not giving you examples, my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

 

As you said, only an idiot would debate it - especially one who knows nowt about it.

Exactly you said it.

 

This is like two thalidomides arguing over a comb

[Guest Stevie]

Qualifiers

 

HOSTS: South Africa

 

AFRICA QUALIFYING: Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria

 

ASIA QUALIFYING: Australia, Japan, North Korea, South Korea

 

EUROPE QUALIFYING: Denmark, England, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland

 

SOUTH AMERICA QUALIFYING: Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay

 

NORTH, CENTRAL AMERICA AND QUALIFYING: Honduras, Mexico, United States

 

ASIA/OCEANIA PLAY-OFF New Zealand

 

Back on topic.

 

What will the seeding/rankings be?

 

IMHO they should be:

 

Pot 1:

England, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Brazil, Chile, Cameroon

 

Pot 2:

Australia, USA, Mexico, Serbia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Ghana, Argentina

 

Pot 3:

Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Denmark, France, Portugal, Slovakia, Uruguay

 

Pot 4:

South Africa, Algeria, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Greece, Slovakia, Honduras, New Zealand

I think this sums up why it will never be a first class sport there too, when a genuine fan of the game comes up with the above. Some beauties in there. Chile seeded above Argentina, Cameroon seeded two pots above 2006 finalists France, regular Asian Cup Winners Korea, and 2004 European Champions Greece, seeded below first time entrancees Slovakia. Oh dear.

 

I have to say this:

Stevie you ignorant, brainless cunt - it's not about the last WC or who won what back in the day, it's about current form and rankings.

See that's why you will be never be anything other than an clueless, opinionated, pathetic excuse for a human.

You sure you don't work for FIFA?

They change the process every other World Cup you arsehole. As for the FIFA rankings basing the seedings on them has been done before, but they're so dated it's not true. I mean about 6 years ago they had USA ranked 6th I think, they had to alter them, they did, but as was pointed out the ELO rankings are more accurate. Also in previous WC's the host automatically is a top seed you tool, as is the PREVIOUS winner of the competition. As for current form, Greece have been in two of the last three tournaments winning one, their current form is excellent and they're well above Slovakia in the seedings, stick to watching Geelong and fuckin Wollagong Wolves.

 

Really?

Shame you can't spell Wollongong you imbecile.

Aye that world famous place on the tip of everyones tongue, in the forefront of every travellers imagination.

[Guest Stevie]

I'm not giving you examples,

I'm not surprised. It sounded like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do what you do under similar circumstances then and assume it's a lie.

Assume what's a lie?

[Guest Stevie]

I'm not giving you examples,

I'm not surprised. It sounded like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do what you do under similar circumstances then and assume it's a lie.

my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

Where have I said it is a bigger sport than the major ones in Australia? You said no one cares about football in Australia and my experience was quite different to that.

Well some people will care obviously even in America some people care it's not a major sport in Australia, the same as it isn't and never will be in America, regardless how many under 9's play it.

[Guest Stevie]

I'm not giving you examples, my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

 

As you said, only an idiot would debate it - especially one who knows nowt about it.

Exactly you said it.

 

This is like two thalidomides arguing over a comb

As opposed to one boring cunt from South Shields with nothing to say?

[Guest alex]

I'm not giving you examples,

I'm not surprised. It sounded like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do what you do under similar circumstances then and assume it's a lie.

Assume what's a lie?

Well, I'll put it another way: You've mentioned before how insignificant you think Australia is but you're now saying it's a country you've read a lot about and have compiled a vast array of knowledge regarding the place? Ok.

Edited November 20, 2009 by alex

[Guest alex]

I'm not giving you examples,

I'm not surprised. It sounded like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do what you do under similar circumstances then and assume it's a lie.

my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

Where have I said it is a bigger sport than the major ones in Australia? You said no one cares about football in Australia and my experience was quite different to that.

Well some people will care obviously even in America some people care it's not a major sport in Australia, the same as it isn't and never will be in America, regardless how many under 9's play it.

Obviously I appreciate you were using hyperbole but a lot of people I spoke to over there (locals that is) knew about the PL because they brought it up when they found out where I was from. It gets a fair bit of coverage there too because of Fox (Rupert Murdoch). Also, how do you account for over 10% of the population watching a World Cup match in the middle of the night if no one is interested in it?

[Guest Stevie]

I'm not giving you examples,

I'm not surprised. It sounded like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do what you do under similar circumstances then and assume it's a lie.

Assume what's a lie?

Well, I'll put it another way: You've mentioned before how insignificant you think Australia is but you're now saying it's a country you've read a lot about and have compiled a vast array of knowledge regarding the place? Ok.

I've read a lot about Scotland, and have a lot of knowledge about Scotland, first hand knowledge, hands on knowledge, and that's an insignificant country too. I don't think I've ever said Australia is a "insignificant" though, in terms of global football it most certainly is, when you think the star player in their league is a fat 35 year old scouser who was finished 8 years ago.

[Happy Face 29]

I'm not giving you examples, my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

 

As you said, only an idiot would debate it - especially one who knows nowt about it.

Exactly you said it.

 

This is like two thalidomides arguing over a comb

As opposed to one boring cunt from South Shields with nothing to say?

 

But which would win in a fight? There's only one way to find out.

[Guest Stevie]

I'm not giving you examples,

I'm not surprised. It sounded like bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do what you do under similar circumstances then and assume it's a lie.

my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

Where have I said it is a bigger sport than the major ones in Australia? You said no one cares about football in Australia and my experience was quite different to that.

Well some people will care obviously even in America some people care it's not a major sport in Australia, the same as it isn't and never will be in America, regardless how many under 9's play it.

Obviously I appreciate you were using hyperbole but a lot of people I spoke to over there (locals that is) knew about the PL because they brought it up when they found out where I was from. It gets a fair bit of coverage there too because of Fox (Rupert Murdoch). Also, how do you account for over 10% of the population watching a World Cup match in the middle of the night if no one is interested in it?

Look who they were playing Italy and Croatia. I saw various things about your dyed in the wool Aussies being pissed off because the second and third generation Italian and Hrvastki immigrants were passionately supporting the opposite side to the country of their birth. If you look the game against Brazil isn't even in the ratings, and that should've been the biggest one too. It's a minority sport, and if I didn't come from a country where football dominates the culture, I would watch too to see how my country are doing and what the fuss is about, in what is by far the world's biggest spectacle.

[Guest Stevie]

I'm not giving you examples, my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

 

As you said, only an idiot would debate it - especially one who knows nowt about it.

Exactly you said it.

 

This is like two thalidomides arguing over a comb

As opposed to one boring cunt from South Shields with nothing to say?

 

But which would win in a fight? There's only one way to find out.

Qantas doesn't fly to South Shields.

[Happy Face 29]

I'm not giving you examples, my vast array of knowledge isn't purely down to reading although that is of benefit, actually having proper communication with people over years, taking in things you've read, seen on television, debating with people, it's how your opinions are formed. Me saying football in Australia doesn't come anywhere near the major sports there isn't an opinion it's a fact, and only an idiot would debate it.

 

As you said, only an idiot would debate it - especially one who knows nowt about it.

Exactly you said it.

 

This is like two thalidomides arguing over a comb

As opposed to one boring cunt from South Shields with nothing to say?

 

But which would win in a fight? There's only one way to find out.

Qantas doesn't fly to South Shields.

 

I was thinking more of a poll

[sammynb 3342]

Actually to really bring this to an end, I hazard a bet that Stevie besides knowing nothing other than his few made up facts, hasn't been to a competitive England (1st team) match in the last 5 years, if ever?

Come on Stevie, give us your first hand knowledge of the roar as England runs out.

[Guest alex]

Anyway, the point is you'd be surprised at how popular the game is there. I'm not saying it's not a minority sport but the 4th or 5th biggest team sport in Australia is culturally a bigger deal than the equivalent one here because it's a sports-obsessed nation. More so than this country.

Edited November 20, 2009 by alex

[Guest Stevie]

Actually to really bring this to an end, I hazard a bet that Stevie besides knowing nothing other than his few made up facts, hasn't been to a competitive England (1st team) match in the last 5 years, if ever?

Come on Stevie, give us your first hand knowledge of the roar as England runs out.

I haven't, in fact the last England game I was at, at Wembley was before they knocked it down, against Germany, the most memorable thing being the scouser on my right telling me I really hated Hamann didn't I? Obviously. The last England game I was physically at was against Albania at SJP that must be about 7 years ago, but I have been to two major tournaments. What the fucks that got to do with anything? What made up facts?

[Guest Stevie]

Anyway, the point is you'd be surprised at how popular the game is there. I'm not saying it's not a minority sport but the 4th or 5th biggest team sport in Australia is culturally a bigger deal than the equivalent one here because it's a sports-obsessed nation. More so than this country.

I very much doubt any sport in Australia has a bigger impact there, than football can have here.

[Meenzer 15347]

I saw various things about your dyed in the wool Aussies being pissed off because the second and third generation Italian and Hrvastki immigrants were passionately supporting the opposite side to the country of their birth.

Whereas nobody would ever be pissed off by British-born Algerians celebrating the latter's qualification in Trafalgar Square. Oh wait...

[Guest alex]

Anyway, the point is you'd be surprised at how popular the game is there. I'm not saying it's not a minority sport but the 4th or 5th biggest team sport in Australia is culturally a bigger deal than the equivalent one here because it's a sports-obsessed nation. More so than this country.

I very much doubt any sport in Australia has a bigger impact there, than football can have here.

Cricket is easily up there tbh Stevie and I can quote a few books I've read that would back that up if you like

[Ayatollah Hermione 13760]

i like it when the mascots dance

[sammynb 3342]

Actually to really bring this to an end, I hazard a bet that Stevie besides knowing nothing other than his few made up facts, hasn't been to a competitive England (1st team) match in the last 5 years, if ever?

Come on Stevie, give us your first hand knowledge of the roar as England runs out.

I haven't, in fact the last England game I was at, at Wembley was before they knocked it down, against Germany, the most memorable thing being the scouser on my right telling me I really hated Hamann didn't I? Obviously. The last England game I was physically at was against Albania at SJP that must be about 7 years ago, but I have been to two major tournaments. What the fucks that got to do with anything? What made up facts?

 

Australia, NZ, SA and USA at a World Cup oh dear. You might as well call it the Commonwealth Games. Too many non football countries there for my liking, they'll take 10,000 between them, them three.

 

I will copy and paste this in July, and am never normally this confident, but England will win the World Cup, there I've said it.

 

Again showing your ignorance.

What is the most played sport in Australia? Yeah see you were wrong - again.

Most played and most watched are two seperate things. When Australia or NZ score the sound, I mean it's like Mick Jagger's just come on stage, rather than a proper football roar. They'll never be football countries.