Guest alex Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Remember the Ethiopian skier? Franz Clammin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 As the late, great, GREAT, Robert Nesta Marley sang: "We're clammin, bopshuwar, we're clammin. We're clammin in the name of the Lord." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 As expected: ECB ready to battle for Sky money The England and Wales Cricket Board will fight tooth and nail to stop future home Ashes Test series being reserved for free-to-air television. The government was formally advised on Friday to add the national flagship cricket series to the list of events that cannot be shown on pay TV. But an ECB insider warned 23,000 coaches employed through BSkyB cash could lose their jobs as a result. And he said counties were already worried about possible bankruptcy. Of the 18 counties playing first-class cricket and employing full-time professionals, nine own grounds which host Tests or one-day internationals. But the other nine are unable to recoup cash that way. Instead, they survive largely on a mandatory £1.5m annual grant which originally emanates from the lucrative TV deals negotiated with Sky by ECB chairman Giles Clarke. The ECB feels those grants would be massively slashed if Sky was unable to bid for exclusive live rights for all cricket played in England. The source said the national board was "deeply disturbed" by the development, and felt the government's year-long review process into listed events, headed by former FA executive director David Davies, had been "deeply, deeply flawed". Davies promised to start the review process "with an open mind", but the ECB feels it has not listened to advice detailing the economic impact of listing home Ashes Tests. It now plans to conduct its own review which will outline exactly how the cuts in funding will affect the game, ahead of a possible appeal if - as expected - the government decides to implement the recommendations. Derbyshire chief executive Keith Loring did not take quite such a dim view of the future, but warned that the ECB, BSkyB and the counties themselves could form formidable opposition to the government and the free-to-air broadcasters. He told BBC Sport: "The current deal with Sky goes up to 2013 and we wouldn't be issuing contracts that take us beyond 2013 if our income was going to dramatically drop. "It's possible that we'll all have to make certain measures, but normally sense prevails. What we shouldn't do is to get too carried away before seeing what is being recommended and what Sky's reaction to those recommendations will be. "Then we have to look at what the terrestrial TV companies bid, then see what's left and what the effect is. "If we don't believe it's going to be right for cricket, then the 18 counties, their members and supporters' groups are going to make quite a lot of noise. "But there's no point getting depressed about decisions that are not going to hit us until 2014." Loring insists the ECB handouts to counties are scrupulously governed, with counties only awarded the full cash amounts if they promote young home-grown players. And he says his own county has made huge strides in recent years to get three players into the England under-19 squad and two into the Academy. The improvements made by counties like Derbyshire, were the Sky millions to be withdrawn, could be jeopardised, says Loring. But others are happy to look at the bigger picture. Former England captain and record run-scorer Graham Gooch, speaking to Radio 4's The World At One, said: "This is great news for a lot of people in this country who don't have access to satellite TV. "They'll get to see some Test match cricket at least every four years in the UK, that's a big bonus for the cricket public in this country." He did, however, concede that there was a difficult dilemma to resolve. "The game could suffer at grassroots - that's always been the spin-off - in as much as, yes, the game needs the money but you also want people to see it." But another former England pro, all-rounder Dominic Cork, told BBC Radio 5 live other broadcasters may not show the commitment to the game that had been offered by Sky in the past. Cork said: "Sky has televised under-19 cricket and women's cricket as well - are the BBC going to show it? "I completely understand that people who don't have Sky will now be able to see live Test cricket, but the grassroots are going to miss out and smaller clubs will fold and go away." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Kirkey 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Sounds good on paper. In practice the Beeb will probably make a right arse of it. Spoony and Tim Jovejoy will probably be the commentary team for the first session of the opening Ashes test. They'll want to make the coverage more accessible and inclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 They'll probably both support Australia as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Kirkey 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Not sure what the ECB are so worried about either. Didn't the beeb manage to offer fifty million more than itv for formula 1 despite no one bidding against them. ECB will probably get an even bigger pay day than they would off Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30633 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I know fuck all about cricket but isn't the Ashes held in Britain every four years? I can't see that creating such a massive dent in the ECB's budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I assume they'll be arguing Sky might take their ball home if they don't get the lot but I don't see that as being very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 a lot of people at the Beeb HATE the idea of creekit - it takes over days of broadcasting and because of the weather and the possibility of early finishes really screws up their scheduling - and of course it's not "cool or "progressive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 a lot of people at the Beeb HATE the idea of creekit - it takes over days of broadcasting and because of the weather and the possibility of early finishes really screws up their scheduling - and of course it's not "cool or "progressive" Not to mention the fact that it's shite and boring. I'd honestly rather paint my balls luminous yellow and watch them dry than sit through cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 a lot of people at the Beeb HATE the idea of creekit - it takes over days of broadcasting and because of the weather and the possibility of early finishes really screws up their scheduling - and of course it's not "cool or "progressive" Not to mention the fact that it's shite and boring. I'd honestly rather paint my balls luminous yellow and watch them dry than sit through cricket. Fuck off out of the thread then you simpleton. I heard Giles Clarke on TMS the other day, he was patronising in the extreme to Jonathan Agnew and didn't answer any of the valid questions about how the BBC showing 5 test matches every four years would not be The End of Cricket. Just proves again that Sports Governing Body = corrupt, incompetent or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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