loonyTOON 10 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 While on numerous sites reading countless articles on Ashley, had couple of ideas. The NUST says it has already started building up funds to make an attempted takeover. And Barry Moat could not raise all the finance upfront. Two ideas: 1. Could the NUST loan the finance now to Moat to be able to turn to Ashley with the whole sum, take it or leave it? 2. Or better still, could Moat and NUST work together? Could they both put a offer to Ashley. That way we have a 'newcastle fan' businessman who is running the club with the NUST there to be able to have an input into the clubs runnings from the thoughts of the fanbase. Any thoughts? prob aready thought of, but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 While on numerous sites reading countless articles on Ashley, had couple of ideas. The NUST says it has already started building up funds to make an attempted takeover. And Barry Moat could not raise all the finance upfront. Two ideas: 1. Could the NUST loan the finance now to Moat to be able to turn to Ashley with the whole sum, take it or leave it? 2. Or better still, could Moat and NUST work together? Could they both put a offer to Ashley. That way we have a 'newcastle fan' businessman who is running the club with the NUST there to be able to have an input into the clubs runnings from the thoughts of the fanbase. Any thoughts? prob aready thought of, but oh well We attempted to open dialogue with Moat a while back. He's fully aware of our position, what sort of funds were talking about and what not. To date (as far as I'm aware) there's been no reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 While on numerous sites reading countless articles on Ashley, had couple of ideas. The NUST says it has already started building up funds to make an attempted takeover. And Barry Moat could not raise all the finance upfront. Two ideas: 1. Could the NUST loan the finance now to Moat to be able to turn to Ashley with the whole sum, take it or leave it? 2. Or better still, could Moat and NUST work together? Could they both put a offer to Ashley. That way we have a 'newcastle fan' businessman who is running the club with the NUST there to be able to have an input into the clubs runnings from the thoughts of the fanbase. Any thoughts? prob aready thought of, but oh well We attempted to open dialogue with Moat a while back. He's fully aware of our position, what sort of funds were talking about and what not. To date (as far as I'm aware) there's been no reply. Guess it depends if he really wants the club, and as a supporter has had enough of the carnage Ashley is ob enjoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 While on numerous sites reading countless articles on Ashley, had couple of ideas. The NUST says it has already started building up funds to make an attempted takeover. And Barry Moat could not raise all the finance upfront. Two ideas: 1. Could the NUST loan the finance now to Moat to be able to turn to Ashley with the whole sum, take it or leave it? 2. Or better still, could Moat and NUST work together? Could they both put a offer to Ashley. That way we have a 'newcastle fan' businessman who is running the club with the NUST there to be able to have an input into the clubs runnings from the thoughts of the fanbase. Any thoughts? prob aready thought of, but oh well We attempted to open dialogue with Moat a while back. He's fully aware of our position, what sort of funds were talking about and what not. To date (as far as I'm aware) there's been no reply. Am I right in assuming the £80 million he raised for the club comes from his backers? Nowadays potential owners seem to have an all or nothing approach when buying a club, they don't want to go down the route of only part owning a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I hate half term though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Anyone else agree LT is in fact Barry Moat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Anyone else agree LT is in fact Barry Moat? If so then he may have just made a very big mistake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 While on numerous sites reading countless articles on Ashley, had couple of ideas. The NUST says it has already started building up funds to make an attempted takeover. And Barry Moat could not raise all the finance upfront. Two ideas: 1. Could the NUST loan the finance now to Moat to be able to turn to Ashley with the whole sum, take it or leave it? 2. Or better still, could Moat and NUST work together? Could they both put a offer to Ashley. That way we have a 'newcastle fan' businessman who is running the club with the NUST there to be able to have an input into the clubs runnings from the thoughts of the fanbase. Any thoughts? prob aready thought of, but oh well We attempted to open dialogue with Moat a while back. He's fully aware of our position, what sort of funds were talking about and what not. To date (as far as I'm aware) there's been no reply. That'll be with the two seats on the board condition ? Unless I'm waaay off the mark on this, this was my bet weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 While on numerous sites reading countless articles on Ashley, had couple of ideas. The NUST says it has already started building up funds to make an attempted takeover. And Barry Moat could not raise all the finance upfront. Two ideas: 1. Could the NUST loan the finance now to Moat to be able to turn to Ashley with the whole sum, take it or leave it? 2. Or better still, could Moat and NUST work together? Could they both put a offer to Ashley. That way we have a 'newcastle fan' businessman who is running the club with the NUST there to be able to have an input into the clubs runnings from the thoughts of the fanbase. Any thoughts? prob aready thought of, but oh well We attempted to open dialogue with Moat a while back. He's fully aware of our position, what sort of funds were talking about and what not. To date (as far as I'm aware) there's been no reply. That'll be with the two seats on the board condition ? Unless I'm waaay off the mark on this, this was my bet weeks ago. And you'd prefer what? that we gave him peoples money (money they have invested with a view to changing the way this club is ran and ensuring its done properly with the fans in mind) and told him just to piss it up a wall? Too right we'd expect seat(s) on the board, investing a 5th of the purchase price on behalf of the fans and getting no say? Thats not what a Trust is for but if you do think thats a bit harsh then please feel free to donate via paypal to peasepud@toontastic.net and I'll pass it onto Barry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 While on numerous sites reading countless articles on Ashley, had couple of ideas. The NUST says it has already started building up funds to make an attempted takeover. And Barry Moat could not raise all the finance upfront. Two ideas: 1. Could the NUST loan the finance now to Moat to be able to turn to Ashley with the whole sum, take it or leave it? 2. Or better still, could Moat and NUST work together? Could they both put a offer to Ashley. That way we have a 'newcastle fan' businessman who is running the club with the NUST there to be able to have an input into the clubs runnings from the thoughts of the fanbase. Any thoughts? prob aready thought of, but oh well We attempted to open dialogue with Moat a while back. He's fully aware of our position, what sort of funds were talking about and what not. To date (as far as I'm aware) there's been no reply. That'll be with the two seats on the board condition ? Unless I'm waaay off the mark on this, this was my bet weeks ago. And you'd prefer what? that we gave him peoples money (money they have invested with a view to changing the way this club is ran and ensuring its done properly with the fans in mind) and told him just to piss it up a wall? Too right we'd expect seat(s) on the board, investing a 5th of the purchase price on behalf of the fans and getting no say? Thats not what a Trust is for but if you do think thats a bit harsh then please feel free to donate via paypal to peasepud@toontastic.net and I'll pass it onto Barry for you. Pud, I wasn't trying to be antagonistic, just my attempt at putting the pieces of the jigsaw together. I've put my thoughts on the matter about seats on the board, and I would quite happily be proved wrong - as I would be in everything regarding NUFC. I'm not attempting to be contrary just for the sake of it, I'm pro-NUST - I always have been. If NUFC is taken over by Moat in conjunction with NUST then I would be ecstatic as it would mean the end of Ashley. I would want nothing more than success after success for the club and partnership owners. I have a point regarding this issue (the MOAT/NUST combo), but will hoy it over to the NUST website, in case you think I'm arguing just for the sake of it. I don't feel you have any responsibilty to continually argue the case for them on here, though I credit you for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Apologies, probably just read the last at the wrong time The fact is wee've attempted to hold talks with Moat and not had the courtesy of a reply, on that logic he hasnt even heard what we are wanting in return. I think that speaks volumes personally about the man and his original motives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Apologies, probably just read the last at the wrong time The fact is wee've attempted to hold talks with Moat and not had the courtesy of a reply, on that logic he hasnt even heard what we are wanting in return. I think that speaks volumes personally about the man and his original motives. Look, she's pregnant, man. You are just going to have to get used her wanting pilchards on ice cream rather than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31549 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 The fact is wee've attempted to hold talks with Moat and not had the courtesy of a reply, on that logic he hasnt even heard what we are wanting in return. I think that speaks volumes personally about the man and his original motives. Aye, seems strange that the guy was £20m short and then refuses to even acknowledge a group that could potentially help him find that sum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1321 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Moat is Ashleys mate. It was all a scam, shill bidding in the hope that some other idiot would come in and buy it. His complete lack of comment in the media suggests that this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Moat is Ashleys mate. It was all a scam, shill bidding in the hope that some other idiot would come in and buy it. His complete lack of comment in the media suggests that this is the case. I've heard some absolute outlandish theories about all of this but that has to top the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7308 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Sounds entirely plausible to me! This is MA we are talking about remember. Wise as director of football, JFK as manager, confirmed to have fed the press and fans a string of lies, wants to sell the naming rights to our historic ground etc. etc. Weve been 'at the end of the week' away from selling the club for 2 years according to JFK, llambias, Ashley etc. Its not really that much of a strecth for Ashley to get his mate to pretend to buy the club is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Sounds entirely plausible to me! This is MA we are talking about remember. Wise as director of football, JFK as manager, confirmed to have fed the press and fans a string of lies, wants to sell the naming rights to our historic ground etc. etc. Weve been 'at the end of the week' away from selling the club for 2 years according to JFK, llambias, Ashley etc. Its not really that much of a strecth for Ashley to get his mate to pretend to buy the club is it. For ocne I argee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Sounds entirely plausible to me! This is MA we are talking about remember. Wise as director of football, JFK as manager, confirmed to have fed the press and fans a string of lies, wants to sell the naming rights to our historic ground etc. etc. Weve been 'at the end of the week' away from selling the club for 2 years according to JFK, llambias, Ashley etc. Its not really that much of a strecth for Ashley to get his mate to pretend to buy the club is it. It sounds a tad far fetched if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1321 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why does it sound far fetched? I know if I had made a bid on something and reached the asking price of what the seller was asking, only for him to move the goalposts and make me look a fool in the national media, I'd be wanting to say something about the way the club was ran. We've seen Moat at the games countless times, he's wanted to buy the club but took an absolute age to get the money together and looked as if he was struggling to get the asking price together. Its like someone saving all of their lives to buy a Ferrari then having dole money to pay for its running costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why does it sound far fetched? I know if I had made a bid on something and reached the asking price of what the seller was asking, only for him to move the goalposts and make me look a fool in the national media, I'd be wanting to say something about the way the club was ran. We've seen Moat at the games countless times, he's wanted to buy the club but took an absolute age to get the money together and looked as if he was struggling to get the asking price together. Its like someone saving all of their lives to buy a Ferrari then having dole money to pay for its running costs. But Moat never met the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman02uk 0 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why does it sound far fetched? I know if I had made a bid on something and reached the asking price of what the seller was asking, only for him to move the goalposts and make me look a fool in the national media, I'd be wanting to say something about the way the club was ran. We've seen Moat at the games countless times, he's wanted to buy the club but took an absolute age to get the money together and looked as if he was struggling to get the asking price together. Its like someone saving all of their lives to buy a Ferrari then having dole money to pay for its running costs. But Moat never met the asking price. I thought he had and Seymour Price advised Ashley to accept it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why does it sound far fetched? I know if I had made a bid on something and reached the asking price of what the seller was asking, only for him to move the goalposts and make me look a fool in the national media, I'd be wanting to say something about the way the club was ran. We've seen Moat at the games countless times, he's wanted to buy the club but took an absolute age to get the money together and looked as if he was struggling to get the asking price together. Its like someone saving all of their lives to buy a Ferrari then having dole money to pay for its running costs. But Moat never met the asking price. I thought he had and Seymour Price advised Ashley to accept it? Sure I read somewhere that he only offered £70 million up front when Ashley wanted £80. That and a further £40 million worth of add ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7308 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why does it sound far fetched? I know if I had made a bid on something and reached the asking price of what the seller was asking, only for him to move the goalposts and make me look a fool in the national media, I'd be wanting to say something about the way the club was ran. We've seen Moat at the games countless times, he's wanted to buy the club but took an absolute age to get the money together and looked as if he was struggling to get the asking price together. Its like someone saving all of their lives to buy a Ferrari then having dole money to pay for its running costs. But Moat never met the asking price. I thought he had and Seymour Price advised Ashley to accept it? Sure I read somewhere that he only offered £70 million up front when Ashley wanted £80. That and a further £40 million worth of add ons. So he turned down the £10mil defeicit and immediately put £20mil into the club. Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why does it sound far fetched? I know if I had made a bid on something and reached the asking price of what the seller was asking, only for him to move the goalposts and make me look a fool in the national media, I'd be wanting to say something about the way the club was ran. We've seen Moat at the games countless times, he's wanted to buy the club but took an absolute age to get the money together and looked as if he was struggling to get the asking price together. Its like someone saving all of their lives to buy a Ferrari then having dole money to pay for its running costs. But Moat never met the asking price. I thought he had and Seymour Price advised Ashley to accept it? Sure I read somewhere that he only offered £70 million up front when Ashley wanted £80. That and a further £40 million worth of add ons. So he turned down the £10mil defeicit and immediately put £20mil into the club. Genius! More than likely because he thinks he can get more for us when promoted. It just won't happen though, simply because if his gamble pays off and we do get promoted the club is going to need massive investment on the first team to even compete in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why does it sound far fetched? I know if I had made a bid on something and reached the asking price of what the seller was asking, only for him to move the goalposts and make me look a fool in the national media, I'd be wanting to say something about the way the club was ran. We've seen Moat at the games countless times, he's wanted to buy the club but took an absolute age to get the money together and looked as if he was struggling to get the asking price together. Its like someone saving all of their lives to buy a Ferrari then having dole money to pay for its running costs. But Moat never met the asking price. I thought he had and Seymour Price advised Ashley to accept it? Sure I read somewhere that he only offered £70 million up front when Ashley wanted £80. That and a further £40 million worth of add ons. So he turned down the £10mil defeicit and immediately put £20mil into the club. Genius! More than likely because he thinks he can get more for us when promoted. It just won't happen though, simply because if his gamble pays off and we do get promoted the club is going to need massive investment on the first team to even compete in the Premiership. He's not much of a thinker really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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