Question Time tonight

[Guest alex]

Griffin had fuck all to say really. He wasn't even very good at being evasive. When asked about Holocaust Denial his answer was akin to Dirk Bogarde's response when Russell Harty asked him if he was gay.

[Park Life 71]

Number 2 is an ethnic minority according to himself

That's the thing, if you apply BNP standards then I should be shipped off to Sweden tomorrow. Or at least my mother should. She'd look pretty damn white in a Question Time audience too. Maybe Stevie's uncanny powers of establishing the cuntishness of forruners extend to instinctively knowing who in a given group of people is descended from PROPER BRITISH NEANDERTHALS.

 

[Renton 21643]

 

9/25 = 36%

 

I'd have hoped for 50/50.

 

That guy four along and three down. Is he an immigrant or a tramp?

[Kid Dynamite 7034]

Spot the BNP members

 

Also, what sort of Doylum goes on Question time in a football top!

[Park Life 71]

He's just appealing to those who don't fully understand the arguments going on but seeing his "indigenous" bollocks getting torn apart should surely have the penny drop with some people that, even his major policy, is riddled with holes.

What most people who don't fully understand the arguments will see or want to see, is an arrogant muslim woman descending to his level, by avoiding questions she's uncomfortable answering, by answering the point with an attack on their policies. Was noticable as well, that 75% of the audience were of ethnic minority, when only 7% of the population are.

 

His attempt at answering the KKK carry on was embarrassing it's obvious there are huge hidden agenda's there, but Christmas Tree hit the nail on the head earlier about the country needing a party who will tackle agenda's properly, no right wing party could work here, but we need a party who will stand up for black and white English people, rather than the shower of shite government and mainstream parties we have today.

 

There was a kind of angst/irritation in the audience at the beginning that I haven't seen for a long time. It was like they had finally cornered 'the devil' but weren't sure if he could bite back.

 

Nick was surprisingly, but I guess predictably demure to the barracking when he easily could have had good answers - in some ways this worked for him as a million BNP voters clenched fists and shook with anger back home at uppity 'niggers' giving it large in the safety of a studio. For instance when that Asian/Muslim geezer said, "I could do a whip round to get you a ticket out of the country" or summink...The retort should have been Nick: "I've got a million people ready to chip in for yours"....

 

He hesitated and fumbled on the holocaust question but I've seen him give straight and clever answers to that before. It must be quite something to go into a room and know 90% of the room is against you....It got to him. The BBC were clearly under massive pressure to stitch him up.

 

If one semi- intelligent, cross eyed fat bloke can deliver this level of angst amongst the soggy British population it can only mean one thing, the BNP are here to stay.

 

If they dropped race (what constitutes a British person) and ran purely on immigration they could get a handful of MP's.

 

I disagree, their policies are nearly all insane. For instance, he says he will deport all criminals. Well where exactly to? Is there a new Australia I haven't heard about?

 

Plus the first past the post system will always work against the BNP thankfully.

 

As I've said before that was a truely awful performance by Griffin and the man simply cannot escape his past. The report where he said in public that he'd appear moderate to the British electorate in order to get in, and once elected implement his extreme and hateful policies (as well as controlling the media), was particularly reprehensible.

 

I think the BNP will always be a fringe protest group at best.

 

You forget parties hardly ever implement more than a small percentage of their manifesto.

 

There are seats in East London, Birmingham and Bradford/Leeds the BNP could win if they dropped race from the manifesto and ran on immigration imo. If as others are saying in this thread one of the things holding them back is NG, well what if someone truly skilled comes out of the woodwork?

[NJS 4389]

Number 2 is an ethnic minority according to himself

That's the thing, if you apply BNP standards then I should be shipped off to Sweden tomorrow. Or at least my mother should. She'd look pretty damn white in a Question Time audience too. Maybe Stevie's uncanny powers of establishing the cuntishness of forruners extend to instinctively knowing who in a given group of people is descended from PROPER BRITISH NEANDERTHALS.

 

 

 

"We must return Britain to its racial make-up as it was 30000 years ago"

 

 

(Sorry racial not ethical)

Edited October 23, 2009 by NJS

[Renton 21643]

He's just appealing to those who don't fully understand the arguments going on but seeing his "indigenous" bollocks getting torn apart should surely have the penny drop with some people that, even his major policy, is riddled with holes.

What most people who don't fully understand the arguments will see or want to see, is an arrogant muslim woman descending to his level, by avoiding questions she's uncomfortable answering, by answering the point with an attack on their policies. Was noticable as well, that 75% of the audience were of ethnic minority, when only 7% of the population are.

 

His attempt at answering the KKK carry on was embarrassing it's obvious there are huge hidden agenda's there, but Christmas Tree hit the nail on the head earlier about the country needing a party who will tackle agenda's properly, no right wing party could work here, but we need a party who will stand up for black and white English people, rather than the shower of shite government and mainstream parties we have today.

 

There was a kind of angst/irritation in the audience at the beginning that I haven't seen for a long time. It was like they had finally cornered 'the devil' but weren't sure if he could bite back.

 

Nick was surprisingly, but I guess predictably demure to the barracking when he easily could have had good answers - in some ways this worked for him as a million BNP voters clenched fists and shook with anger back home at uppity 'niggers' giving it large in the safety of a studio. For instance when that Asian/Muslim geezer said, "I could do a whip round to get you a ticket out of the country" or summink...The retort should have been Nick: "I've got a million people ready to chip in for yours"....

 

He hesitated and fumbled on the holocaust question but I've seen him give straight and clever answers to that before. It must be quite something to go into a room and know 90% of the room is against you....It got to him. The BBC were clearly under massive pressure to stitch him up.

 

If one semi- intelligent, cross eyed fat bloke can deliver this level of angst amongst the soggy British population it can only mean one thing, the BNP are here to stay.

 

If they dropped race (what constitutes a British person) and ran purely on immigration they could get a handful of MP's.

 

I disagree, their policies are nearly all insane. For instance, he says he will deport all criminals. Well where exactly to? Is there a new Australia I haven't heard about?

 

Plus the first past the post system will always work against the BNP thankfully.

 

As I've said before that was a truely awful performance by Griffin and the man simply cannot escape his past. The report where he said in public that he'd appear moderate to the British electorate in order to get in, and once elected implement his extreme and hateful policies (as well as controlling the media), was particularly reprehensible.

 

I think the BNP will always be a fringe protest group at best.

 

You forget parties hardly ever implement more than a small percentage of their manifesto.

 

There are seats in East London, Birmingham and Bradford/Leeds the BNP could win if they dropped race from the manifesto and ran on immigration imo. If as others are saying in this thread one of the things holding them back is NG, well what if someone truly skilled comes out of the woodwork?

 

So basically if it becomes a different party with a different leader they may win some seats? Maybe. However, as their politics basically stink and are devoid of any intellectual or moral value, I personally can't see the party attracting anyone with the ability to transform it.

[Park Life 71]

Question Time has never been, and never can be, about "democracy" in its truest sense. Anyone who thinks Griffin's been hard done by because of that is a fucking idiot.

I think anyone who thinks last nights events were anything other than a stage managed attempt, and a clear witch hunt in their nature is a fucking idiot to be honest as Craig mentioned, in a country where we pride ourselves on free speech.

 

 

He's getting lots of sympathy from my customers this morning and lots from callers to talk sport.

 

The witch hunt has become the story rather than the bnp.

 

Nothing better for gaining new support than taking a 'mock beating on telly'. He plays the victim well whether he intended to do or not we will never know.

[Park Life 71]

He's just appealing to those who don't fully understand the arguments going on but seeing his "indigenous" bollocks getting torn apart should surely have the penny drop with some people that, even his major policy, is riddled with holes.

What most people who don't fully understand the arguments will see or want to see, is an arrogant muslim woman descending to his level, by avoiding questions she's uncomfortable answering, by answering the point with an attack on their policies. Was noticable as well, that 75% of the audience were of ethnic minority, when only 7% of the population are.

 

His attempt at answering the KKK carry on was embarrassing it's obvious there are huge hidden agenda's there, but Christmas Tree hit the nail on the head earlier about the country needing a party who will tackle agenda's properly, no right wing party could work here, but we need a party who will stand up for black and white English people, rather than the shower of shite government and mainstream parties we have today.

 

There was a kind of angst/irritation in the audience at the beginning that I haven't seen for a long time. It was like they had finally cornered 'the devil' but weren't sure if he could bite back.

 

Nick was surprisingly, but I guess predictably demure to the barracking when he easily could have had good answers - in some ways this worked for him as a million BNP voters clenched fists and shook with anger back home at uppity 'niggers' giving it large in the safety of a studio. For instance when that Asian/Muslim geezer said, "I could do a whip round to get you a ticket out of the country" or summink...The retort should have been Nick: "I've got a million people ready to chip in for yours"....

 

He hesitated and fumbled on the holocaust question but I've seen him give straight and clever answers to that before. It must be quite something to go into a room and know 90% of the room is against you....It got to him. The BBC were clearly under massive pressure to stitch him up.

 

If one semi- intelligent, cross eyed fat bloke can deliver this level of angst amongst the soggy British population it can only mean one thing, the BNP are here to stay.

 

If they dropped race (what constitutes a British person) and ran purely on immigration they could get a handful of MP's.

 

I disagree, their policies are nearly all insane. For instance, he says he will deport all criminals. Well where exactly to? Is there a new Australia I haven't heard about?

 

Plus the first past the post system will always work against the BNP thankfully.

 

As I've said before that was a truely awful performance by Griffin and the man simply cannot escape his past. The report where he said in public that he'd appear moderate to the British electorate in order to get in, and once elected implement his extreme and hateful policies (as well as controlling the media), was particularly reprehensible.

 

I think the BNP will always be a fringe protest group at best.

 

You forget parties hardly ever implement more than a small percentage of their manifesto.

 

There are seats in East London, Birmingham and Bradford/Leeds the BNP could win if they dropped race from the manifesto and ran on immigration imo. If as others are saying in this thread one of the things holding them back is NG, well what if someone truly skilled comes out of the woodwork?

 

So basically if it becomes a different party with a different leader they may win some seats? Maybe. However, as their politics basically stink and are devoid of any intellectual or moral value, I personally can't see the party attracting anyone with the ability to transform it.

 

Give Stevie a go.

[Renton 21643]

Question Time has never been, and never can be, about "democracy" in its truest sense. Anyone who thinks Griffin's been hard done by because of that is a fucking idiot.

I think anyone who thinks last nights events were anything other than a stage managed attempt, and a clear witch hunt in their nature is a fucking idiot to be honest as Craig mentioned, in a country where we pride ourselves on free speech.

 

 

He's getting lots of sympathy from my customers this morning and lots from callers to talk sport.

 

The witch hunt has become the story rather than the bnp.

 

Nothing better for gaining new support than taking a 'mock beating on telly'. He plays the victim well whether he intended to do or not we will never know.

 

That's a curious thing about the BNP, they love playing the victim card and banging on about how the white Englishman is oppressed in this country. To me that's nothing short of bizarre. Griffin of course went a step further last night and accused successive governments of committing genocide on the English population, and compares the English to the Aboriginees. This, from someone who denys the holocaust. Irony indeed.

[ewerk 30671]

Question Time has never been, and never can be, about "democracy" in its truest sense. Anyone who thinks Griffin's been hard done by because of that is a fucking idiot.

I think anyone who thinks last nights events were anything other than a stage managed attempt, and a clear witch hunt in their nature is a fucking idiot to be honest as Craig mentioned, in a country where we pride ourselves on free speech.

 

 

He's getting lots of sympathy from my customers this morning and lots from callers to talk sport.

 

The witch hunt has become the story rather than the bnp.

 

More likely to be your customers simply nodding politely at your racist rants.

 

 

[Guest alex]

Seriously don't think they'll have lost or gained any votes after last night. No notable shift anyway.

[AgentAxeman 182]

Seriously don't think they'll have lost or gained any votes after last night. No notable shift anyway.

 

 

agreed, if anything it will simply have polarized opinions even more. those who hate him will hate him even more. those who support him will support him even more. nil nil draw imo!

[NJS 4389]

He's now claiming the audience was too ethnic which reflects the fact that London has been ethnically cleansed of whites.

 

 

Sound like he has a problem with maths as well as history - even if all the nonwhites in the UK lived in London they'd still be outnumbered.

[Guest alex]

Should've spoken up last night when he had the chance

[Guest Stevie]

He's now claiming the audience was too ethnic which reflects the fact that London has been ethnically cleansed of whites.

 

 

Sound like he has a problem with maths as well as history - even if all the nonwhites in the UK lived in London they'd still be outnumbered.

Mmmm 7.1m people in London as of the last census, and 5m non whites in the UK. I get your point but the facts are incorrect.

Edited October 23, 2009 by Stevie

[Park Life 71]

Should've spoken up last night when he had the chance

 

It's a fact the voters don't like their Nazis too bolshy.

[Guest alex]

He's now claiming the audience was too ethnic which reflects the fact that London has been ethnically cleansed of whites.

 

 

Sound like he has a problem with maths as well as history - even if all the nonwhites in the UK lived in London they'd still be outnumbered.

Mmmm 7.1m people in London as of the last census, and 5m non whites in the UK. I get your point but the facts are incorrect.

I think he's right actually.

[NJS 4389]

He's now claiming the audience was too ethnic which reflects the fact that London has been ethnically cleansed of whites.

 

 

Sound like he has a problem with maths as well as history - even if all the nonwhites in the UK lived in London they'd still be outnumbered.

Mmmm 7.1m people in London as of the last census, and 5m non whites in the UK. I get your point but the facts are incorrect.

 

 

He went on to mention that it should have been held in Bromley or Thurrock (or Stoke but forget that for a moment) as they are more his types of places - if he goes out that far say at or around the m25 then I think you're talking nearer 12m - possibly more.

[Park Life 71]

It's not about race at all it's about the fair distribution of wealth and opportunities.

[Guest Stevie]

He's now claiming the audience was too ethnic which reflects the fact that London has been ethnically cleansed of whites.

 

 

Sound like he has a problem with maths as well as history - even if all the nonwhites in the UK lived in London they'd still be outnumbered.

Mmmm 7.1m people in London as of the last census, and 5m non whites in the UK. I get your point but the facts are incorrect.

 

 

He went on to mention that it should have been held in Bromley or Thurrock (or Stoke but forget that for a moment) as they are more his types of places - if he goes out that far say at or around the m25 then I think you're talking nearer 12m - possibly more.

London itself is 7.1m according to the census, Gtr London 12-14m by various definitions.

[Guest alex]

He's now claiming the audience was too ethnic which reflects the fact that London has been ethnically cleansed of whites.

 

 

Sound like he has a problem with maths as well as history - even if all the nonwhites in the UK lived in London they'd still be outnumbered.

Mmmm 7.1m people in London as of the last census, and 5m non whites in the UK. I get your point but the facts are incorrect.

 

 

He went on to mention that it should have been held in Bromley or Thurrock (or Stoke but forget that for a moment) as they are more his types of places - if he goes out that far say at or around the m25 then I think you're talking nearer 12m - possibly more.

London itself is 7.1m according to the census, Gtr London 12-14m by various definitions.

What's your point? If it's just London itself NJS is probably still right. If it's Greater London he's definitely right.

[Park Life 71]

England is by a country mile the least racist country in Europe.

[Guest alex]

England is by a country mile the least racist country in Europe.

I heard you the first time

[Guest Stevie]

He's now claiming the audience was too ethnic which reflects the fact that London has been ethnically cleansed of whites.

 

 

Sound like he has a problem with maths as well as history - even if all the nonwhites in the UK lived in London they'd still be outnumbered.

Mmmm 7.1m people in London as of the last census, and 5m non whites in the UK. I get your point but the facts are incorrect.

 

 

He went on to mention that it should have been held in Bromley or Thurrock (or Stoke but forget that for a moment) as they are more his types of places - if he goes out that far say at or around the m25 then I think you're talking nearer 12m - possibly more.

London itself is 7.1m according to the census, Gtr London 12-14m by various definitions.

What's your point? If it's just London itself NJS is probably still right. If it's Greater London he's definitely right.

How? 5m in to 7m? Even if you considered 1/3 of London isn't white. If one third of London's population is non white, and that's the case? That would mean 4.7m people in London are white. The 2.4m non whites, with the 2.6m from outside the capital would equal 5m, so how would it be a white majority, could you explain that please?