Park Life 71 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) For a man standing alone between Europe and its future, Vaclav Klaus is playing hard to get. Last week a trip to Albania, this week Russia; the Czech president has performed a vanishing act just when he has the rest of Europe dancing to his tune. He relishes being at the centre of a showdown. But it appears he is currently more interested in selling copies of his tract on global warming denial. Last week, as a panicky campaign was launched in Berlin, Paris, Brussels, Stockholm, and Prague to try to force Europe's biggest renegade into line, Klaus was dining by the Adriatic. For five days he refused to return phone calls from Fredrik Reinfeldt, the Swedish prime minister and current EU president saddled with the Klaus emergency. Jan Fischer, the Czech Republic's caretaker prime minister, has an even less enviable task, as mediator between Klaus and the rest of Europe's leaders. But Klaus won't give him the time of day. Fischer admitted he had managed to get him briefly on the phone, but not to arrange a meeting." I think it's just him and the Irish now. Two countries stand alone against the tyranny of a Federal Europe. Edited October 15, 2009 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The Irish voted yes recently didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15871 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) Irish referendum the other week approved it, so it's just a matter of protocol now. EDIT: But aye, it technically hasn't been ratified in Ireland yet. Edited October 15, 2009 by Meenzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Tories offering referendum on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15871 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 God, I don't think I can face the prospect of the type of "informed debate" we'd get on the subject here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 God, I don't think I can face the prospect of the type of "informed debate" we'd get on the subject here. What worries me is the proposed new voting powers which gives the big four a massive advantage. Undemocratic? You betcha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 God, I don't think I can face the prospect of the type of "informed debate" we'd get on the subject here. I was thinking similar. However, I fully expect the Tories to renege on that promise if/when they get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15871 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 God, I don't think I can face the prospect of the type of "informed debate" we'd get on the subject here. What worries me is the proposed new voting powers which gives the big four a massive advantage. Undemocratic? You betcha!! It really is just like Eurovision then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 God, I don't think I can face the prospect of the type of "informed debate" we'd get on the subject here. What worries me is the proposed new voting powers which gives the big four a massive advantage. Undemocratic? You betcha!! It really is just like Eurovision then. So, that'll be a yes vote from you I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15871 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 God, I don't think I can face the prospect of the type of "informed debate" we'd get on the subject here. What worries me is the proposed new voting powers which gives the big four a massive advantage. Undemocratic? You betcha!! It really is just like Eurovision then. So, that'll be a yes vote from you I take it. Naturally. Treaty of Lisbon, twelve points. Traité de Lisbonne, douze points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4446 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Tories offering referendum on it. They've said if the treaty hasn't been signed then they may - it's a trick as it will be signed by then. The Czech bloke might be within his rights but my reading was that he was being an arse because he likes being the centre of attention rather than out of great principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The Irish voted yes recently didn't they? Yup, couldn't get away from it in Dublin if you wanted to. basically every lamppost etc on every street was like this even in the bogs of a bars I was in they had posters up like "We may not be able to explain stage fright....but we can explain the Lisbon treaty!" If it's OK for Gay Mitchell, it's okay by me The gays need a greater say in yurop Talk of the tories offering a referendum on this is the stuff of nightmares for Cameron. They (the tories) promised this referendum ages ago, but now - with them all but assured of winning the next election -, this is the one thing they are terrified could cause a humungous rift inside the party and cause voters to lose faith with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 God, I don't think I can face the prospect of the type of "informed debate" we'd get on the subject here. What worries me is the proposed new voting powers which gives the big four a massive advantage. Undemocratic? You betcha!! It really is just like Eurovision then. So, that'll be a yes vote from you I take it. Naturally. Treaty of Lisbon, twelve points. Traité de Lisbonne, douze points. "They're all speaking French" Geoff Boycott frustratingly exclaimed, during his trial for assaulting his female partner.......in France Fuckin' claseek (as Boycs would say) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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