Time for Timekeepers

[Craig 6700]

Speaking of which... wasn't it in the run up to the '94 World Cup when the Yanks wanted to increase the size of the goals and introduce 'quarters'??

[Guest Stevie]

Speaking of which... wasn't it in the run up to the '94 World Cup when the Yanks wanted to increase the size of the goals and introduce 'quarters'??

Yanks are horrible, who the fuck are they to tell us what our rules are, they are mugs, and I'm not interested in what they think. They couldn't even train Diana Ross to score in an empty net from 4 yards.

[donaldstott 0]

I think goal line technology would be helpful, but only if it's done on a basis where the decision is instantaneous, with some kind of red light/green light technology behind the goal. But that's the only change I would like to see.

 

With regards to time keeping, I'm not sure that the referee should add extra time on for players retreating back to the centre spot after a goal, and I am a referee!!

 

My game yesterday had 5 second half goals yesterday and only played 1 minute of stoppage time (for two substitutions), is that wrong?

[Craig 6700]

I think goal line technology would be helpful, but only if it's done on a basis where the decision is instantaneous, with some kind of red light/green light technology behind the goal. But that's the only change I would like to see.

 

With regards to time keeping, I'm not sure that the referee should add extra time on for players retreating back to the centre spot after a goal, and I am a referee!!

 

My game yesterday had 5 second half goals yesterday and only played 1 minute of stoppage time (for two substitutions), is that wrong?

 

No red & amber?

 

Pretty much the same idea I was on about tbh. Just some visual / audible notification that the whole of the ball has crossed the line. Then there will be no doubt.

[donaldstott 0]

I think goal line technology would be helpful, but only if it's done on a basis where the decision is instantaneous, with some kind of red light/green light technology behind the goal. But that's the only change I would like to see.

 

With regards to time keeping, I'm not sure that the referee should add extra time on for players retreating back to the centre spot after a goal, and I am a referee!!

 

My game yesterday had 5 second half goals yesterday and only played 1 minute of stoppage time (for two substitutions), is that wrong?

 

No red & amber?

 

Pretty much the same idea I was on about tbh. Just some visual / audible notification that the whole of the ball has crossed the line. Then there will be no doubt.

 

I'm not sure the technology exists at this point in time though. Would Hawkeye work? because the scenarios in football are very different to line calls in tennis or LBWs in cricket where the lines and stumps are static but a clearing defender is not.

 

I guess some form of laser technology on both ball and goalposts could judge whether all of the sensors crossed all of the line. This obviously needs ball manufacturers to be involved.

[ewerk 31491]

I'm not sure the technology exists at this point in time though. Would Hawkeye work? because the scenarios in football are very different to line calls in tennis or LBWs in cricket where the lines and stumps are static but a clearing defender is not.

 

I guess some form of laser technology on both ball and goalposts could judge whether all of the sensors crossed all of the line. This obviously needs ball manufacturers to be involved.

 

The Premier League has already developed a hawkeye system with FIFA / UEFA approval but was then told to stop it for some unknown reason (iirc).

[Guest alex]

How often does the issue of the ref playing too much injury time actually cause a problem? Not too often. Your idea is a knee jerk reaction to what happened yesterday and is entirely unnecessary, I thought all that was clear from my 'load of wank' statement.

I agree and the time added was not even out of the ordinary, as proved on MOTD last night. With all the calls for technology being introduced, well I say fuck it, there's maybe 3 goals a season are over the line but aren't given, so what, there are maybe 5-10 controversial goals that have been scored over the alloted time, so fuck. Part of the charm of football is that it's largely the same rules we had 100 years ago, I don't see why technology has to play a massive part, if we keep altering the rules to accomodate technology and the right decision, where do we stop, do we end up with Americanised sport that has so many stops and starts, and is so scrutinised that we actually lose the sporting aspect? The referee and his assistance are not perfect, there are some decisions where occasionally you look at it, and you could argue that there is no right and no wrong, it's how it's interpreted, and I personally don't want to see the game taken away from human interpretation.

Agree with the pair of yas tbs. And if you look at something like cricket, which is much more suited to it they haven't come with a good way of working with it for most decisions, other than obvious did the ball / bat cross a line. I'd maybe be for it for goal line stuff but that's about it.

[donaldstott 0]

I think goal line technology would be helpful, but only if it's done on a basis where the decision is instantaneous, with some kind of red light/green light technology behind the goal. But that's the only change I would like to see.

 

With regards to time keeping, I'm not sure that the referee should add extra time on for players retreating back to the centre spot after a goal, and I am a referee!!

 

My game yesterday had 5 second half goals yesterday and only played 1 minute of stoppage time (for two substitutions), is that wrong?

 

I looked it up. For natural stoppages in play (such as goals) time should not be added on unless it is deemed excessive.

[JonTheMag 4]

Its simple, put a small chip in the ball that activates the light whenever it crosses the sensor. Like those security things they have at supermarkets

[sammynb 3640]

It is quite easy to implement and can easily work for the whole pitch, sidelines, goal line, etc.

Problem is it would be costly to install and therefore would only be available at the highest level.

So what happens when Man U have to go to Darlo for a League cup game and they are knocked out by a dubious decision involving a ball not crossing the line?

The precedent is set that their ground has the technology, so why should they have to play at grounds without goal line technology?

 

You can see the can of worms it opens.

[Noelie 103]

Quite frankly I don't think there should be any stoppage time, 90 minutes in duration and what happens in that 90 minutes is all part of the game be it substitutions, injuries, barneys, or chasing a dog or streaker off the field.

One minute of stoppage time seems ludicrous(although goals have been scored in the minute), and sometimes I see the sign going up for 3 minutes in one half and I wonder where the fuck did those 3 minutes come from cos I didn't see any stoppages that could amount to 3 minutes.

[donaldstott 0]

Quite frankly I don't think there should be any stoppage time, 90 minutes in duration and what happens in that 90 minutes is all part of the game be it substitutions, injuries, barneys, or chasing a dog or streaker off the field.

One minute of stoppage time seems ludicrous(although goals have been scored in the minute), and sometimes I see the sign going up for 3 minutes in one half and I wonder where the fuck did those 3 minutes come from cos I didn't see any stoppages that could amount to 3 minutes.

 

How long before the fans of a team winning 1-0 invade the pitch after 85 minutes and stay there for five minutes?

[The Fish 11058]

Quite frankly I don't think there should be any stoppage time, 90 minutes in duration and what happens in that 90 minutes is all part of the game be it substitutions, injuries, barneys, or chasing a dog or streaker off the field.

One minute of stoppage time seems ludicrous(although goals have been scored in the minute), and sometimes I see the sign going up for 3 minutes in one half and I wonder where the fuck did those 3 minutes come from cos I didn't see any stoppages that could amount to 3 minutes.

 

How long before the fans of a team winning 1-0 invade the pitch after 85 minutes and stay there for five minutes?

 

Or teams just belting the ball into the gods every chance they get, taking 3 minutes to prepare their corners? Substitutes sprniting the other end of the pitch then meandering it's length when their number is displayed. It's annoying when that happens now, imagine what it'd be like in Noelie's world. The game wouldn't get going, at all.

 

Noelie is just having one of his turns

[Guest alex]

Quite frankly I don't think there should be any stoppage time, 90 minutes in duration and what happens in that 90 minutes is all part of the game be it substitutions, injuries, barneys, or chasing a dog or streaker off the field.

One minute of stoppage time seems ludicrous(although goals have been scored in the minute), and sometimes I see the sign going up for 3 minutes in one half and I wonder where the fuck did those 3 minutes come from cos I didn't see any stoppages that could amount to 3 minutes.

Time wasting doesn't get punished enough and you're basically advocating rewarding it.

[Brazilianbob 0]

All these so called changes to eradicate errors in the game are purely down to the money involved.

 

EPL clubs (in particular Fergie) were calling for professional referees because of the mistakes they were making and because they were not held to be accountable.

 

Now they are professionals and accountable, I don't see any less mistakes being made, but what we are seeing is referees being dropped for making a crucial mistake and the top EPL clubs then have the advantage of inexperienced refs who are afraid to give pens, decisions etc to the away team at places like Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and the Emirates.

 

It hasn't improved the standard of refereeing because the game is so fast, it is impossible to get it right 100% of the time, but that is the unachievable goal of EPL managers/clubs.

 

What is wrong with relying on the old rule that the referees decision is final in all matters! I would consider amending that rule to also state there is no right of appeal and that constant whinging by clubs to the press could result in a points deduction.

 

If the ref makes a mistake tough! It's been proved in the past that these decision even themselves out eventually.

[Park Life 71]

All these so called changes to eradicate errors in the game are purely down to the money involved.

 

EPL clubs (in particular Fergie) were calling for professional referees because of the mistakes they were making and because they were not held to be accountable.

 

Now they are professionals and accountable, I don't see any less mistakes being made, but what we are seeing is referees being dropped for making a crucial mistake and the top EPL clubs then have the advantage of inexperienced refs who are afraid to give pens, decisions etc to the away team at places like Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and the Emirates.

 

It hasn't improved the standard of refereeing because the game is so fast, it is impossible to get it right 100% of the time, but that is the unachievable goal of EPL managers/clubs.

 

What is wrong with relying on the old rule that the referees decision is final in all matters! I would consider amending that rule to also state there is no right of appeal and that constant whinging by clubs to the press could result in a points deduction.

 

If the ref makes a mistake tough! It's been proved in the past that these decision even themselves out eventually.

 

Yup.

I would cut subs back to 3 as well, with only 2 allowed in game.

[donaldstott 0]

All these so called changes to eradicate errors in the game are purely down to the money involved.

 

EPL clubs (in particular Fergie) were calling for professional referees because of the mistakes they were making and because they were not held to be accountable.

 

Now they are professionals and accountable, I don't see any less mistakes being made, but what we are seeing is referees being dropped for making a crucial mistake and the top EPL clubs then have the advantage of inexperienced refs who are afraid to give pens, decisions etc to the away team at places like Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and the Emirates. It hasn't improved the standard of refereeing because the game is so fast, it is impossible to get it right 100% of the time, but that is the unachievable goal of EPL managers/clubs.

 

What is wrong with relying on the old rule that the referees decision is final in all matters! I would consider amending that rule to also state there is no right of appeal and that constant whinging by clubs to the press could result in a points deduction.

 

If the ref makes a mistake tough! It's been proved in the past that these decision even themselves out eventually.

 

Don't go along with that. Every week Howard Webb, who the FA rates as our best referee, gets the biggest game.