donaldstott 0 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) What about underground flywheels as energy stores? And what about this space based thing the Japanese are doing, harvesting the sun and sending some insane beam of power down to earth? What do you do Donald? I'm a PR consultant now, but I used to work for a renewable energy firm. And I've not heard about either of those to things, sounds like the work of Dr Evil to me! Edited September 15, 2009 by donaldstott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The future is electro-magnetism all else is shit. When Tesla started saying he could power the whole planet for next to free....His funding dried up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I'm just reading MacKay's Sustainable energy without the hot air, very interesting. Nuclear is not the answer fwiw. Oil crisis would be replaced by a nuclear crises as uranium stocks would be depleted in twenty years or so. (Out of Gas, David Goodstein). Currently 4% of our energy is from Nuclear and Renewables. Tide - Too expensive Deep Offshore wind - not near my radar! Shallow offshore wind - not near our birds! Wind - NIMBY MADNESS Biomass - not in my countryside! PV Farms far too expensive! Local PV - No, they would spoil the visual amenity of the street Solar heating - No, they would spoil the visual amenity of the street Wind - No they're ugly and noisy Public consultation is the problem. Force brown and black outs on them, they'll sharp change their minds. This won't happen though, so wtf are we to do? The earth is surrounded by a magnetic field which could provide all the planets needs and they know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7170 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Some more future cars http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/show-rep...s-and-pics.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I'm just reading MacKay's Sustainable energy without the hot air, very interesting. Nuclear is not the answer fwiw. Oil crisis would be replaced by a nuclear crises as uranium stocks would be depleted in twenty years or so. (Out of Gas, David Goodstein). Currently 4% of our energy is from Nuclear and Renewables. Tide - Too expensive Deep Offshore wind - not near my radar! Shallow offshore wind - not near our birds! Wind - NIMBY MADNESS Biomass - not in my countryside! PV Farms far too expensive! Local PV - No, they would spoil the visual amenity of the street Solar heating - No, they would spoil the visual amenity of the street Wind - No they're ugly and noisy Public consultation is the problem. Force brown and black outs on them, they'll sharp change their minds. This won't happen though, so wtf are we to do? I work in the industry.. You're absolutely right about uranium stocks, they are ultimately a limited fuel, though 20 years is out of sink with most thinking. Suggest that our energy future will be a combination of all of the above, apart from PV farms here. Costs will fall in wave and tidal energy and ultimately bills will get much higher. A change in attitude regarding energy efficiency is also much needed and much overdue. But wind will more than likely lead the way in the UK. Suggest large scale near shore wind farms are a given. We will almost certainly litter the country with onshore turbines and on a good windy day that should be enough for everyone. On a non-windy day (which can be mitigated against to an extent by profileration) there will be a need for other fuel sources. There is a lot of talk about deep offshore turbines being potentially used as hydrogen producing stations and the worlds first floating 100m turbine was launched last week, bringing that a step closer. We will ultimately still rely on fossil fuels until the silver bullet is found, for my money the person who invents a huge energy storage device will be richer beyond his wildest dreams.. Will be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooner 243 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) The future won't be about leccy or hydro it will be about the magnetic field our planet produces naturally, one day this field will drive all mahcines on the planet. © Pesla. this and check this out. http://www.ted.com/talks/eric_giler_demos_...lectricity.html Edited September 15, 2009 by tooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Will scientists ever get nuclear fusion working on a grand scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The earth is surrounded by a magnetic field which could provide all the planets needs and they know that. I recall reading about that Tesla tower, how come no-one else has built one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Will scientists ever get nuclear fusion working on a grand scale? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Will scientists ever get nuclear fusion working on a grand scale? yes When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Will scientists ever get nuclear fusion working on a grand scale? yes When? Next Thursday, about quarter past 3. More importantly, this threads just brought back my youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11542 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Reminded me of this choon from my heavy metal youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The earth is surrounded by a magnetic field which could provide all the planets needs and they know that. I recall reading about that Tesla tower, how come no-one else has built one? Getting abundant free energy is a tricky thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Regardless of whether electric cars are the future or not, electricity is going nowhere. These cars will run, and run extremely cheaply for many, many years. £3 for 200miles is good value in anyones book That will never last though. Once they stick a 2000% tax on "car electricity". It's like people thinking if they use less electricity they will save money - nope as soon as enough start to do it the electricity companies will just stick the tariffs up to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15718 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Once got stuck there for six hours with only a £1.50 drinks voucher from the airline as compensation. To be spent on non-alcoholic drinks only, even though beer was cheaper than Coke. It was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Ouch Couldn't you just buy an alcoholic drink yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15718 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Ouch Couldn't you just buy an alcoholic drink yourself Had no money left and they don't let you take it out of the country anyway. Which begs the question why there are any shops and bars at the airport at all really. I'm sure people do, but Serbian border police are scary creatures and I was beyond the point of wanting to tangle with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22001 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Ouch Couldn't you just buy an alcoholic drink yourself Had no money left and they don't let you take it out of the country anyway. Which begs the question why there are any shops and bars at the airport at all really. I'm sure people do, but Serbian border police are scary creatures and I was beyond the point of wanting to tangle with them... Had a similar experience in Mexico when my plane was delayed by 24 hours. Was completely out of pesos so was given a soft drink voucher, upon trying to redeem it I was informed that orange juice was not a soft drink. Neither was bottled water apparently. Upon enquiring what was a soft drink, I was told Coca Cola, diet coke, or Dr Pepper. But only if it was in a cardboard cup from a dispenser (i.e. not a can or bottle). By the way, there's some shit on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Is Tesla the bloke who can clone hundreds of cats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Is Tesla the bloke who can clone hundreds of cats? Yes. And hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 By the way, there's some shit on this thread. There's loads of spunky tissues under your bed but we're too polite to mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43067 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Is Tesla the bloke who can clone hundreds of cats? Yes. And hats. when he's not rawking out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 World's biggest wind turbine blades to be made in the North East. http://decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/news/pn100/pn100.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooner 243 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 World's biggest wind turbine blades to be made in the North East. http://decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/news/pn100/pn100.aspx have you seen the bio-mimicry wind turbine blades? The design reflects a hump-back whale's fins, with bumps and protrusions along the leading edge, seems counter-intuitive but the bumps create air currents as the blade/fin moves throught the air that actually decreases the amount of drag that the blade/fin feels. Result, more efficient wind-turbines= more power. http://www.whalepower.com/drupal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15718 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Excellent. Now we just need to use them to slice the heads off every anti-wind farm NIMBY in the country, and bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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