2nd most popular boys name in the UK

[Fop 1]

Can I suggest a new forum, like the Gerld one, but titled;

Fopped

where all threads that have been fopped can be quietly placed to rot?

 

 

Although you'd never be out of there.

 

To be honest Fop's quite well behaved and well liked in the secret forum.

 

It's true.

let's try it and see, eh?

 

there'd have to be a watertight set of rules of what "fopped" was, of course. Just look at how much trouble NSFW causes.

[Fop 1]

Mind you that's a 1% growth to 4% in the last 8 years (est), or a whopping 25% increase in the total UK Muslim population in <8 years (and of course the total UK population has rise in that time by about 2 million).

 

 

Statistics are lying whores.

 

...and just to go back to this. You're the lying whore in this case.

 

You can't say based on what proprtion of the population was muslim 8 years ago, and what proportion is now. How much that population has increased. You can only say how much the proportion has increased.

 

So even if your 4% IS a reported best guess. In no way shape or form does that correlate with a 25% increase in muslim population.

 

If the entire UK population has grown by 0.5% and the Muslim population grew by (say) 1% in the same time it might have caused the jump from 3% to 4% as a proportion.

 

That assumes your 4% is a researched figure.

 

Yes you can, you can do anything with statistics, it's all in how you present them (as you should well know).

 

You can if you make them up as you go along...as you did just then.

 

Again only if Fop make up your figures too

 

What?

 

Indeed.

 

I'm sorry Fop but if you seem to have real trouble with expressing yourself clearly.

 

Are you still insisting that the muslim population of the UK has grown 25% in the last year?

 

Or are you disagreeing with something I've said? If so, what exactly, I'll be happy to discuss it in more detail sensibly and concede wherever I've made a mistake (which is often the case).

 

If your point is that ALL statistics are useless, then you're more of a dunce than anyone could have imagined. The national office of statistics produce very accurate data, that when interpreted correctly illuminate many issues.

 

When you come along and bastardise the numbers to come up with 25% bollocks, I agree it's useless. It's as bad as those fuckwit scientists in The Sun who come up with an imaginary formula for the perfect penalty, or the best pair of tits to advertise a new beer.

 

 

Fop is saying that you don't pay attention (you really don't, as this thread shows to those paying attention) and then get cross about it , that you don't seem to be sure about what you quote for what, and that statistics never lie, however how you present them can be disingenuous to say the least.

 

Does that about cover it?

[Happy Face 29]

Mind you that's a 1% growth to 4% in the last 8 years (est), or a whopping 25% increase in the total UK Muslim population in <8 years (and of course the total UK population has rise in that time by about 2 million).

 

 

Statistics are lying whores.

 

...and just to go back to this. You're the lying whore in this case.

 

You can't say based on what proprtion of the population was muslim 8 years ago, and what proportion is now. How much that population has increased. You can only say how much the proportion has increased.

 

So even if your 4% IS a reported best guess. In no way shape or form does that correlate with a 25% increase in muslim population.

 

If the entire UK population has grown by 0.5% and the Muslim population grew by (say) 1% in the same time it might have caused the jump from 3% to 4% as a proportion.

 

That assumes your 4% is a researched figure.

 

Yes you can, you can do anything with statistics, it's all in how you present them (as you should well know).

 

You can if you make them up as you go along...as you did just then.

 

Again only if Fop make up your figures too

 

What?

 

Indeed.

 

I'm sorry Fop but if you seem to have real trouble with expressing yourself clearly.

 

Are you still insisting that the muslim population of the UK has grown 25% in the last year?

 

Or are you disagreeing with something I've said? If so, what exactly, I'll be happy to discuss it in more detail sensibly and concede wherever I've made a mistake (which is often the case).

 

If your point is that ALL statistics are useless, then you're more of a dunce than anyone could have imagined. The national office of statistics produce very accurate data, that when interpreted correctly illuminate many issues.

 

When you come along and bastardise the numbers to come up with 25% bollocks, I agree it's useless. It's as bad as those fuckwit scientists in The Sun who come up with an imaginary formula for the perfect penalty, or the best pair of tits to advertise a new beer.

 

 

Fop is saying that you don't pay attention (you really don't, as this thread shows to those paying attention) and then get cross about it , that you don't seem to be sure about what you quote for what, and that statistics never lie, however how you present them can be disingenuous to say the least.

 

Does that about cover it?

 

Not really. But I never expected you to.

[Holden McGroin 6229]

Sorry Stevie, I was busy today.

 

I'm saying that Meenzer was using those terms ironically and if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too.

 

It isn't however carte blanche, allowing certain terms to be bandied about under the veil of irony. Darkie is no where near as offensive as Nigger. As you well know.

What a fucking idiot

 

That is hilarious, and this cunts been made a mod. You should put that in your rules on the rule guidance page. "if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too." Basically stating if that someone wants to use racist terminology when trying to be ironic, then this forum condones it. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

come off it Stevie, you know fine well you're being argumentative for the sake of it. If you can't see the difference between "Darkie" and "Nigger", well, you should just give up your speaking out loud privileges as you're obviously guilty of wasting them.

I can't even get my head around the breathtaking ignorance in your post. I know you're from Blyth but fuck me. Just incredible. The silence from the other moderators is notable. This is one of the biggest :oh no: moments I've seen on toontastic. Measuring two racist terms against each other, and the one you perceive as milder is passed as acceptable. As for nigger being a stronger word that darkie, I completely and utterly disagree. Nigger is a word used more by Americans the British people, and is used by black people as an every day word about other black people, but the rule is white people are not allowed to say it. Darkie is a more British derogatory term for black people, and in my view and in the view of others I've discussed it with equally as bad as "nigger", maybe even more so purely in my opinion due to the way the word "nigger" has almost been commercialised. Your ignorance is beyond staggering. When you started on this stance I almost spat my corn flakes out. Lets hope the newspaper don't see this, unless it's the Daily Mail you're going to join. Oh dear.

 

In America "Nigga" is the commercialised term whereas "Nigger" is derogatory. Nevertheless, I agree that "darkie" is also a racist term and should be in the same category. Fish is digging a hole here.

[trophyshy 7058]

Second toughest in the infants. A disappointing album imo.

[Monkeys Fist 41318]

there'd have to be a watertight set of rules of what "fopped" was, of course. Just look at how much trouble NSFW causes.

like the water tight rules on what is a racist comment?

[Guest alex]

Second toughest in the infants. A disappointing album imo.

I thought it was decent. Not as good as their first though (albeit better named). They went to shit after that though I thought.

[ChezGiven 0]

Second toughest in the infants. A disappointing album imo.

I thought it was decent. Not as good as their first though (albeit better named). They went to shit after that though I thought.

If you listen to Crocodile off 'Oblivion with bells' really fucking loud, its an amazing track.

 

Did you like that Juan Maclean thing or not then?

[Guest alex]

Second toughest in the infants. A disappointing album imo.

I thought it was decent. Not as good as their first though (albeit better named). They went to shit after that though I thought.

If you listen to Crocodile off 'Oblivion with bells' really fucking loud, its an amazing track.

 

Did you like that Juan Maclean thing or not then?

The did the odd good thing but overall their albums were pretty pants.

Still haven't listened to TJM properly but I like it so far. 'Happy House' is very good.

[ChezGiven 0]

Second toughest in the infants. A disappointing album imo.

I thought it was decent. Not as good as their first though (albeit better named). They went to shit after that though I thought.

If you listen to Crocodile off 'Oblivion with bells' really fucking loud, its an amazing track.

 

Did you like that Juan Maclean thing or not then?

The did the odd good thing but overall their albums were pretty pants.

Still haven't listened to TJM properly but I like it so far. 'Happy House' is very good.

Listen to 'No Time', the lyrics are really funny and the chorus is a play on Raw Silk's Do it to the music (which was also a massive rave hit for PKA called 'Temperature's Rising on Stress records in 91).

 

I love a house music thread hijack.

[Guest Stevie]

Sorry Stevie, I was busy today.

 

I'm saying that Meenzer was using those terms ironically and if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too.

 

It isn't however carte blanche, allowing certain terms to be bandied about under the veil of irony. Darkie is no where near as offensive as Nigger. As you well know.

What a fucking idiot

 

That is hilarious, and this cunts been made a mod. You should put that in your rules on the rule guidance page. "if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too." Basically stating if that someone wants to use racist terminology when trying to be ironic, then this forum condones it. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

come off it Stevie, you know fine well you're being argumentative for the sake of it. If you can't see the difference between "Darkie" and "Nigger", well, you should just give up your speaking out loud privileges as you're obviously guilty of wasting them.

I can't even get my head around the breathtaking ignorance in your post. I know you're from Blyth but fuck me. Just incredible. The silence from the other moderators is notable. This is one of the biggest :oh no: moments I've seen on toontastic. Measuring two racist terms against each other, and the one you perceive as milder is passed as acceptable. As for nigger being a stronger word that darkie, I completely and utterly disagree. Nigger is a word used more by Americans the British people, and is used by black people as an every day word about other black people, but the rule is white people are not allowed to say it. Darkie is a more British derogatory term for black people, and in my view and in the view of others I've discussed it with equally as bad as "nigger", maybe even more so purely in my opinion due to the way the word "nigger" has almost been commercialised. Your ignorance is beyond staggering. When you started on this stance I almost spat my corn flakes out. Lets hope the newspaper don't see this, unless it's the Daily Mail you're going to join. Oh dear.

 

In America "Nigga" is the commercialised term whereas "Nigger" is derogatory. Nevertheless, I agree that "darkie" is also a racist term and should be in the same category. Fish is digging a hole here.

Yes, comparable to the one in Calcutta. It's only taken him three days.

[Park Life 71]

Second toughest in the infants. A disappointing album imo.

I thought it was decent. Not as good as their first though (albeit better named). They went to shit after that though I thought.

 

Still have most of the singles.

[Park Life 71]

Sorry Stevie, I was busy today.

 

I'm saying that Meenzer was using those terms ironically and if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too.

 

It isn't however carte blanche, allowing certain terms to be bandied about under the veil of irony. Darkie is no where near as offensive as Nigger. As you well know.

What a fucking idiot

 

That is hilarious, and this cunts been made a mod. You should put that in your rules on the rule guidance page. "if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too." Basically stating if that someone wants to use racist terminology when trying to be ironic, then this forum condones it. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

come off it Stevie, you know fine well you're being argumentative for the sake of it. If you can't see the difference between "Darkie" and "Nigger", well, you should just give up your speaking out loud privileges as you're obviously guilty of wasting them.

I can't even get my head around the breathtaking ignorance in your post. I know you're from Blyth but fuck me. Just incredible. The silence from the other moderators is notable. This is one of the biggest :oh no: moments I've seen on toontastic. Measuring two racist terms against each other, and the one you perceive as milder is passed as acceptable. As for nigger being a stronger word that darkie, I completely and utterly disagree. Nigger is a word used more by Americans the British people, and is used by black people as an every day word about other black people, but the rule is white people are not allowed to say it. Darkie is a more British derogatory term for black people, and in my view and in the view of others I've discussed it with equally as bad as "nigger", maybe even more so purely in my opinion due to the way the word "nigger" has almost been commercialised. Your ignorance is beyond staggering. When you started on this stance I almost spat my corn flakes out. Lets hope the newspaper don't see this, unless it's the Daily Mail you're going to join. Oh dear.

 

In America "Nigga" is the commercialised term whereas "Nigger" is derogatory. Nevertheless, I agree that "darkie" is also a racist term and should be in the same category. Fish is digging a hole here.

Yes, comparable to the one in Calcutta. It's only taken him three days.

 

"Donnie Darkie" has a nice ring to it mind. The story of a alienated Asian lad growing up in Bradford. I'll whack off the synopsis tonight.

[Guest alex]

Second toughest in the infants. A disappointing album imo.

I thought it was decent. Not as good as their first though (albeit better named). They went to shit after that though I thought.

 

Still have most of the singles.

My favourite (which you can't get on any of their albums) would have to be the'Dark Train' mix of the 12" of 'Dark and Long'. They opened with that when I saw them in Leicester years ago (where they were fantastic btw). And Chez, would it be bad taste to say this is a good day for a hijack?

[Guest alex]

Sorry Stevie, I was busy today.

 

I'm saying that Meenzer was using those terms ironically and if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too.

 

It isn't however carte blanche, allowing certain terms to be bandied about under the veil of irony. Darkie is no where near as offensive as Nigger. As you well know.

What a fucking idiot

 

That is hilarious, and this cunts been made a mod. You should put that in your rules on the rule guidance page. "if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too." Basically stating if that someone wants to use racist terminology when trying to be ironic, then this forum condones it. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

come off it Stevie, you know fine well you're being argumentative for the sake of it. If you can't see the difference between "Darkie" and "Nigger", well, you should just give up your speaking out loud privileges as you're obviously guilty of wasting them.

I can't even get my head around the breathtaking ignorance in your post. I know you're from Blyth but fuck me. Just incredible. The silence from the other moderators is notable. This is one of the biggest :oh no: moments I've seen on toontastic. Measuring two racist terms against each other, and the one you perceive as milder is passed as acceptable. As for nigger being a stronger word that darkie, I completely and utterly disagree. Nigger is a word used more by Americans the British people, and is used by black people as an every day word about other black people, but the rule is white people are not allowed to say it. Darkie is a more British derogatory term for black people, and in my view and in the view of others I've discussed it with equally as bad as "nigger", maybe even more so purely in my opinion due to the way the word "nigger" has almost been commercialised. Your ignorance is beyond staggering. When you started on this stance I almost spat my corn flakes out. Lets hope the newspaper don't see this, unless it's the Daily Mail you're going to join. Oh dear.

 

In America "Nigga" is the commercialised term whereas "Nigger" is derogatory. Nevertheless, I agree that "darkie" is also a racist term and should be in the same category. Fish is digging a hole here.

Yes, comparable to the one in Calcutta. It's only taken him three days.

 

"Donnie Darkie" has a nice ring to it mind. The story of a alienated Asian lad growing up in Bradford. I'll whack off the synopsis tonight.

I often refer to it as 'Donnie Darkie'. Racist? Moi?

[Park Life 71]

Sorry Stevie, I was busy today.

 

I'm saying that Meenzer was using those terms ironically and if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too.

 

It isn't however carte blanche, allowing certain terms to be bandied about under the veil of irony. Darkie is no where near as offensive as Nigger. As you well know.

What a fucking idiot

 

That is hilarious, and this cunts been made a mod. You should put that in your rules on the rule guidance page. "if someone were to repeat something like that later on, that'd be fine too." Basically stating if that someone wants to use racist terminology when trying to be ironic, then this forum condones it. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

come off it Stevie, you know fine well you're being argumentative for the sake of it. If you can't see the difference between "Darkie" and "Nigger", well, you should just give up your speaking out loud privileges as you're obviously guilty of wasting them.

I can't even get my head around the breathtaking ignorance in your post. I know you're from Blyth but fuck me. Just incredible. The silence from the other moderators is notable. This is one of the biggest :oh no: moments I've seen on toontastic. Measuring two racist terms against each other, and the one you perceive as milder is passed as acceptable. As for nigger being a stronger word that darkie, I completely and utterly disagree. Nigger is a word used more by Americans the British people, and is used by black people as an every day word about other black people, but the rule is white people are not allowed to say it. Darkie is a more British derogatory term for black people, and in my view and in the view of others I've discussed it with equally as bad as "nigger", maybe even more so purely in my opinion due to the way the word "nigger" has almost been commercialised. Your ignorance is beyond staggering. When you started on this stance I almost spat my corn flakes out. Lets hope the newspaper don't see this, unless it's the Daily Mail you're going to join. Oh dear.

 

In America "Nigga" is the commercialised term whereas "Nigger" is derogatory. Nevertheless, I agree that "darkie" is also a racist term and should be in the same category. Fish is digging a hole here.

Yes, comparable to the one in Calcutta. It's only taken him three days.

 

"Donnie Darkie" has a nice ring to it mind. The story of a alienated Asian lad growing up in Bradford. I'll whack off the synopsis tonight.

I often refer to it as 'Donnie Darkie'. Racist? Moi?

 

Pass the crudites love.

[Park Life 71]

"Donnie Darkie".

A new film by Rajesh Pankawallah.

 

"British realism at its best." The Times

 

"A tour de force" The nawab of Pataudi.

 

Donnie starts to understand how wearing a pringle and following Leeds in the early 80's isn't satiating his claustrophobic life working in his dads paper shop.

 

"My Beautiful Launderette for the new generation brought up on fish and chips with curry sauce and dabblings in Jihadi porn." Sachin Tendulkar".

[Guest alex]

[trophyshy 7058]

Moving then from House to Rap.

 

Easy E was my favourite member of NWA. I think his laid back slightly drawling style added a stylish edge. RIP.

 

However, NWA were the beginning of the end for me with hip hop. They significantly contributed to the movement from an intelligent, political, powerful voice for the disaffected toward a genre that's largely exploited and exploitative, reinforcing stereotypes, aiding and abetting aspirations for narcissism, greed, money and ‘bitches’, not social or political change. Shame on you Dr Dre.

 

I appreciate, however, it was undoubtedly white record executives that shaped this too. Who is more culpable though?

[trophyshy 7058]

"Donnie Darkie".

A new film by Rajesh Pankawallah.

 

"British realism at its best." The Times

 

"A tour de force" The nawab of Pataudi.

 

Donnie starts to understand how wearing a pringle and following Leeds in the early 80's isn't satiating his claustrophobic life working in his dads paper shop.

 

"My Beautiful Launderette for the new generation brought up on fish and chips with curry sauce and dabblings in Jihadi porn." Sachin Tendulkar".

 

Stalked by a giant teddy called Mohammed?

[ChezGiven 0]

Parky flies the funny plane into the darkies thread.

[Park Life 71]

"Donnie Darkie".

A new film by Rajesh Pankawallah.

 

"British realism at its best." The Times

 

"A tour de force" The nawab of Pataudi.

 

Donnie starts to understand how wearing a pringle and following Leeds in the early 80's isn't satiating his claustrophobic life working in his dads paper shop.

 

"My Beautiful Launderette for the new generation brought up on fish and chips with curry sauce and dabblings in Jihadi porn." Sachin Tendulkar".

 

Stalked by a giant teddy called Mohammed?

 

[Monkeys Fist 41318]

Parky flies the funny plane into the darkies thread.

[Guest alex]

Do you reckon you'd get away with saying it to Darcus Howe?

[Park Life 71]

Do you reckon you'd get away with saying it to Darcus Howe?

 

Not late at night on Ch4 no.