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Well, it hardly makes sense that what you said was possible, i.e. a full-scale invasion of the US mainland, if they couldn't/wouldn't invade Hawaii, does it?

It's totally hypothetical. As for not making sense. To me it didn't make sense that the Germans over estimated Britain in the war, but they did. The US had no significant defence all the way to Ohio, nothing, I've seen it said more than twice a surprise Japanese all out invasion would've had them fucked.

How would they have mounted the invasion then? They'd have to cross the Pacific, yet even after Pearl Harbour, they couldn't take the Hawaiian Islands, which were strategically very important and a definite war aim of theirs. It's basically akin to saying the invasion would have been possible and would have suceeded if the US didn't have a Navy or if Japan was where California was instead of on the other side of the Pacific. Sorry, I didn't realise the premise was that hypothetical.

 

Don't think the Hawaiian islands themselves were ever an objective of theirs, the aircraft carriers that were supposed to be stationed there and other ships were.

That is a fact, but if they were to launch an all out attack on America they'd surely have been better advised using Hawaii as a base than going straight in to them, the Japanese were much better equipped for war than USA. I tell you the thing now what it was, Rooseveldt and his advisors were shitting themselves regarding a potential imminent invasion of half the country which they knew due to the logistics if it was imminent they could do fuck all about it.

 

Can I just point out the Japanese did try to take the South Pacific and eventually Australia but they were righteously fucked and sent packing! No hypatheticals about it.

 

If they couldn't even take Oz I doubt somehow they could have reached Chicago. Wonder if Stevie has found those references yet.

 

They weren't that far away, a few things different and......

 

 

 

Just like IRA vs Taliban.

Or Alien v Predator.

 

That could be ok, just not so far in film.